Talk:Lists of mountains/Archive 1

Archive 1

Mont Blanc

Mont Blanc states it's the higest in Europe, now this page disagrees. Is Ararat in Europe? -- Tarquin [at 17:15, 12 December 2002]

I am sorry, this was a mistake. Neither Ararat nor Mont Blanc are the highest mountain of Europe. The Elbrus is the true highest mountain: http://www.meest-tour.com.ua/extreeme/elbrus_eng.html. It is in the Caucasus, which is in Europe. The Ararat is also a European mountain, but not as high as the Elbrus. I noticed, that there is no article about the Elbrus, not even a mention. I will add an article later today. -- Cordyph [11:38, 13 December 2002 ]

Mount Kosciusko

Isn't it "Mount Kosciusko"? [User:Smack 06:41, 20 May 2003]

Yes. I thought there was a disagreement, but Wikipedia the source of truth already had Mount Kosciuszko, so if it needs work the article should change first. Stan 12:50 20 May 2003 (UTC)

Mulhacen

The list of mountains "to be categorised" should include Mulhacen in the Sierra Nevada, the highest mountain in continental Spain and higher than the Pyrenees. -[195.173.15.12, 13:00, 29 June 2004]

Zambia

I cannot find any mention of the Rungwe listed as Zambia's highest point. The CIA world factbook lists an unnamed location in the Mafinga hills instead, but that is only 2,300m high. -[213.79.39.127 22:44, 6 December 2005]

Ranking of highest mountains

The 500m prominence ranking rule on the list of highest mountains seems to have been generally accepted and should be used for world height rankings on other lists. Anyone who feels strongly that other methods should be used, or the 500m rule changed, should not change the rankings unilaterally, but start a discussion on the subject on the highest mountains talk page. If a consensus emerges around any other ranking method, then the highest mountains can be re-ranked. But until then, any other rankings should be considered POVs and reverted. Viewfinder 17:41, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

New Zealand

Hey, Kiwis, if we can list Mount Wellington we can list 30 others higher! Tapuaenuku [spg?] comes to mind, and Taupiri deserves a mention for cultural reasons if nothing else. Mitre Peak, Mount Aspiring, Tasman, Te Aroha, Mount Tongariro, Colonial Knob... Robin Patterson 19:59, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

30? More like 330! And why not Mt Eden or Mt Albert? Oh, and your spelling's right - Mount Tapuaenuku Grutness|^hello? 11:56, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)

It's officially Tapuae-o-Uenuku, with no Mount. Birdhurst 20:27, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

10 Highest

Is the recently-added list of the 10 highest really worth including? This information already appears on List of highest mountains and the names & heights are anyway already on this list, in the 'Eight-thousanders' section immediately below this. --David Edgar 11:35, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, these should be included. Without them, the Asia section would not be complete. Viewfinder 17:41, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm not talking about the Asia section... of course the mountains should also be listed in the Asia section.

The issue is with duplication in the "Ten Highest" and "Eight-thousanders" sections - why can these not be combined into one section? --David Edgar 16:25, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Separated Karakoram and Hindu Kush from Himalaya

I have separated mountains of Karakoram and Hindu Kush from Himalaya. Waqas.usman 15:43, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

I've no objection to this, but it creates a slight problem.

In the "Eight-thousanders" section, it states that these mountains are "all in the Himalaya"

But when I look at the "Himalaya" section below, I obviously don't see mountains such as Gasherbrum I (as it's in the Karakoram).

Is there a way we can clarify this - eg. referring instead to the "Himalaya region" in the "Eight-thousanders" section, or alternatively putting the "Karakoram" section underneath a wider "Himalaya area" title? I don't know what the best terminology is. --David Edgar 16:25, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I think putting the Karakoram under Himalaya would be a better idea, but the 4th level heading will become too small :| Waqas.usman 23:50, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Can you identify these?

Please take a look at these unidentified peaks at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Unidentified_Karakoram_peaks. If you recognize any of these, please update their description and category and notify me. Thanks! Waqas.usman 23:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Mount Washington

For what reason is "worst weather in the world" found here. It should be removed unless sufficient evidence is produced. -[203.109.235.129 10:31, 28 June 2007]

Minimum elevation

We should specify a minimum elevation, or we will soon start getting hills here. -[User:Ezeu 07:07, 11 August 2005]

I disagree, minimum elevation is not a good way to distinguish between hills and mountains.

For instance, setting a minimum elevation suitable for the Himalaya will probably exclude every mountain in the UK.

As stated in the mountain article: "A mountain is generally much higher and steeper than a hill, but there is considerable overlap, and usage often depends on local custom."

Personally I think this list should contain primarily notable mountains in each region. Comprehensive lists can be found on the linked pages listing mountains by country.

--David Edgar 08:14, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Why not move this page to "List of notable mountains"? It's hard enough to maintain List of mountains in Massachusetts or List of mountains in New Hampshire, both fairly small states--and most of the mountains listed in those articles are not also listed here. According to the titles of those articles and description at the header of this article (or lack thereof), it's not clear why. Badagnani 17:10, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

It's general Wikipedia practice (perhaps policy - I'm not sure whether there's a relevant written ruling) that article titles shouldn't suggest there's been a judgement call by editors. So the words "notable", "famous", and the like are usually avoided in WP article or category titles, even if - as in cases such as this one - there is actually some judicious selection being done. Grutness...wha? 12:51, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Australia

Sorry, I accidentally hit the return key before explaining the undoing of a good faith edit. For the reasons, see Seven Summits and Australia (continent). Viewfinder (talk) 09:59, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Denmark

The mountains in denmark are not considered mountains of the danish itself.. I think it should be deleted —217.61.86.181 (talk) 11:39, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Ancohuma Peak - Bolivia

The article list this peak at 6,427 M. While the Ancochuma article lists it at 6,421 FT. Any idea which one is correct? 151.196.232.195 (talk) 01:48, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

elevations?

Every peak should have an elevation. Why are the North American mountains missing so many elevations? Also, there should be a list of peaks sorted by elevation. -[User:Collingsworth 04:07, 14 June 2006]

In addition, this page should also have imperial units. I'll work on a script to add them. Getting really tired of metric-only pages. -[Globe199 04:48, 19 June 2007]

Imperial units are outdated and surely have little relevance in a modern encyclopaedia.

Except that several of the world's superpowers use them...making them very relevant.Wekiva (talk) 20:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

This is already been worked out, see WP:UNITS. hike395 13:44, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Isolated Islands

There is no category for isolated mid ocean islands - can someone create one? I don't know how to create categories but I will watch the page and when someone does I'll come update it. A good example is Mawson Peak which someone has placed under Australia. There are other high peaks in mid ocean islands that are missing (e.g. the southern Atlantic, Indian Ocean, Southern Ocean).

Also, where is the Caribbean? It should probably be grouped with Central America. -Tonyfv (talk • contribs) 07:19, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I figured it all out and made several changes. Tonyfv (talk) 05:21, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Retrofit topic year headers

30-Oct-2008: I have added subheaders above as "Topics from 2002" (etc.) to emphasize the dates of topics in the talk-page. Older topics might still apply, but using the year headers helps to focus on more current issues as well. The topic-year boundaries were located by searching from bottom for the prior year#. Afterward, I dated/named unsigned comments & moved the Zambia-topic into date order for 2005. -Wikid77 (talk) 06:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Mountains named Jabal/Jebel/etc

30-Oct-2008: There are numerous smaller mountains, in Africa, named with the Arabic variations for "mountain" as Jebal, Jebel, Djebel, etc. See list at: Jabal. I'm not sure which of those mountains should be listed here. -Wikid77 (talk) 06:06, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Alpamayo is missing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.54.106.202 (talk) 15:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Revert

I reverted this: [1] It was removal of African mountains without explanation.--Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 17:12, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Mount Hermon

Mount Hermon is between Lebanon/Syria, not Israel. [2] --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 07:04, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

the southern slopes fall on the golan heights currently controlled by israel. so it does fall on the israeli border between syria and Lebanon--Marbehtorah-marbehchaim (talk) 21:30, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Israels border is before Golan heights, Israels occupation of Golan Heights does not make it part of its land and does not make the ceasefire line a border. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 20:58, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

@SD: Your political pov is misleading all the unaware readers which cannot imagine that a mountain can be both in an occupied territory -your stand- and physically outside of it -your stand again-... that is contradictory to say the least and does not grant credibility to WP, we want accuracy and reliability here, not propaganda, thanks, Hope&Act3! (talk) 22:22, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Hope&Act3!, you have been shown several times before that the mountain is not in Israel. Again now: here are two maps: [3][4] --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 18:53, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Supreme Deliciousness: you just can't put politic opinion out of normal life...?? shame on you!!

the fact: both mount Hermon AND the Golan Heights belong to Israel and are inside its borders. the highest peak of mt. Hermon is 2814m (in Syria). the highest ISRAELI peak is 2236m, there is actually a ski resort up there.

you say that Israel is occupying this territory and did not always own it. well fine, you are right. Israel did take it in the Six Day War (war started by Syria itself) as a DEFENSIVE act. their problem. tough for them. just don't forget to mention (and edit all Wikipedia as well), that half of Europe, Africa, Asia, America and Oceania are all "occupations" of main European countries (none of them btw took the territories for a defensive reason but ONLY as aggressive)

just FYI: the only reason that the world does not accept Jerusalem as Israel's capital and the Golan Heights as Israel territory is money. yes, oil money. yes, controlled mostly by arab countries. that fund terror with the money you pay to drive your car. i'm Israeli, i have nothing against Arabs and esp. Syrians and i've been in mt. Hermon and the Golan Heights enough times. so don't tell me it's not in Israel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.127.231.108 (talk) 09:15, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Makalu

I have started a discussion at Talk:Makalu on the elevation of the mountain. Different Wikipedia articles disagree on the elevation and I can't find anywhere where we provide a source for the figures. Road Wizard (talk) 12:35, 12 November 2012 (UTC)