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If Lord John Grey of Pirgo deserve an article then he deserves a properly formatted one. I would like to know why edits to bring this article in line with WP:LEAD and WP:EDITORIAL are considered "malicious" and are reverted. Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 14:14, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
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Concur likewise - Lord John Grey, the real-life Tudor figure should take precedence over the fictional character. L'honorable (talk) 11:38, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
PS. to add to the confusion, Pyrgo & Pirgo are interchangeable spellings of where Lord John Grey was seated, but in any event howsoever Pirgo/Pyrgo is spelled he has always been known as Lord John Grey.
PPS. let's correct this ASAP. Many thanks L'honorable (talk) 05:04, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Comment: John Grey, Lord of Pirgo is utterly incorrect. At no stage was he ever "Lord of Pirgo", nor was he "Lord John Grey of Pirgo" for that matter.. L'honorable (talk) 07:02, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
PS. is this discussion going to be conducted sensibly?
I presume the latest submission above was directed at me, whoever you are? Furthermore I could not agree more with this article being tagged as Start-Class on the project's quality scale. Until something so simple as getting the article's title agreed how can it be possible to move forward? Whoever you are, should you wish to have the low-down on manorial lordships this can be done elsewhere (& sensibility does not come into it but sense does!), in which case please declare yourself and I shall explain in as much detail as you require. Meantime let's stick to the point in hand, namely Lord John Grey. L'honorable (talk) 20:29, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
PS. please don't make a mockery of Wikipedia because, as grandfather and onetime Royal Guardian of Lady Jane Grey, he played a far more important role in English history than many others who appear on Wiki's pages. Please resolve ASAP.
Although there have been other John Greys who were lords, the form "Lord John Grey" can only refer to the son of a marquess or duke. There is only one other Lord John Grey in history (the fifth son of Thomas Grey, 1st Marquess of Dorset, so this Lord John's uncle) but he is unlikely to be notable enough to have an article. The proposed title is not ambiguous, other than with the fictional character. Opera hat (talk) 10:57, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
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