Talk:Louis Ignarro
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Ignarro's bachelor degree
[edit]In his Nobel Laureate autobiography, He wrote that he took a major in "pharmacy" not pharmacology in Columbia. At that time there was a pharmacy program in the university but not in these days. It seems that a sort city college of pharmacy went temporary consignment to Columbia due to financial problem. I don't think there are any university that have undergraduate level "pharmacology" program. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lihmwiki (talk • contribs) 12:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- At what time? EB and his bio say it was in 'pharmacy'.--Elvey (talk) 13:10, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Herbalife Controversey
[edit]Why is the forbetterscience.com website, describing some of Navarro's fabricated papers on PNAS, banned from Wikipedia? --87.15.148.33 (talk) 06:34, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Ignarro's failure to disclose information was not illegal or unethical and is a mere footnote in the bio of this amazing scientist who has helped thousands of people with his NO discovery. This section should be deleted as it is irrelevant and negative. Thoughts? 72.87.146.61 (talk) 22:02, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- It's important that anything we write on the subject meet our three key policies: Verifiability, No Original Research and Neutral Point of View. We also have special rules for biographies of living people in our Biographies of Living People Policy. Here are references on Ignarro's relationship to Herbalife that meet our Reliable Source Guideline:
- "Nobel laureate criticised for spruiking health supplements". BioEdge. Australasian Bioethics Information. 2004-12-14. ISSN 1446-2117. Retrieved 2008-01-09.
His consulting company received at least US$1 million from the product between June 2003 and September 2004, with his signature and Nobel laureate status featuring on each bottle.
- de Nigris, Filomena (2003-02-04). "Beneficial effects of antioxidants and L-arginine on oxidation-sensitive gene expression and endothelial NO synthase activity at sites of disturbed shear stress". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 100 (3). National Academy of Sciences: 1420–1425. doi:10.1073/pnas.0237367100. Retrieved 2008-01-09.
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suggested) (help) - "Correction". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 101 (52). National Academy of Sciences. 2004-12-28. 10.1073/pnas.0409060101. Retrieved 2008-01-09.
- Darmiento, Laurence (2005-01-10). "Scientist says he should have disclosed Herbalife interest". Los Angeles Business Journal. Retrieved 2008-01-09.
Ignarro, who shared the 1998 Nobel Prize for helping discover the role that nitric oxide plays in cardiovascular health, said that although he still believes he was not ethically required to make the disclosure, in retrospect it would have been better for him and UCLA had he done so.
- Evans, David (2004-12-06). "Nobel Prize Winner Didn't Disclose His Herbalife Contract". Bloomberg News. Retrieved 2008-01-09.
Pharmacologist Robert Furchgott, 88, who won the 1998 Nobel Prize with Ignarro for his own, independent research on nitric oxide, said in an interview that Ignarro's claims about Herbalife's effectiveness are improperly founded.
- Herbalife Ltd. (2004-12-02). "Amendment No. 4 to [[Form S-1]] Registration Statement Under the [[Securities Act Of 1933]]". United States Securities and Exchange Commission. pp. p. 79. Retrieved 2008-01-09.
A consulting firm with which Dr. Ignarro is affiliated is entitled to receive a small percentage of the amount of (i) Niteworks™, (ii) certain "healthy heart" products, and (iii) other products that we may mutually designate in the future that are, in each case, sold with the aid of Dr. Ignarro's consulting, promotional or endorsement services. From June 1, 2003 through September 30, 2004, we paid approximately $1 million to the consulting firm.
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has extra text (help); URL–wikilink conflict (help) - Ignarro, Louis (Guest) Johnson, Michael O. (President, Herbalife) (June 2003). Johnson' introduction of Dr. Ignarro, Herbalife Extravaganza meeting, Las Vegas, NV (wmv) (Videotape). Herbalife. Retrieved 2008-01-09.
- Ignarro, Louis (Speaker) (June 2003). excerpt of Dr. Ignarro's comments on nitric oxide, Herbalife Extravaganza meeting, Las Vegas, NV (wmv) (Videotape). Herbalife. Retrieved 2008-01-09.
- Ignarro, Louis (Guest). Luigi Gratton and Dr Heber and Louis Ignarro Show. Herbalife.
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(help) - Ignarro, Louis. "Niteworks® and Nitric Oxide Q&A". Herbalife. Retrieved 2008-01-09.
- "Nobel Laureate Failed to Tell of Herbalife Deal". The Los Angeles Times. 2004-12-09. Retrieved 2008-01-09.
- Wanjek, Christopher (2003-10-07). "Nitric Oxide Now -- Ask Me How: Some Find Nobel Laureate's Alliance With Supplement Marketer Hard to Swallow". The Washington Post. p. HE01. Retrieved 2008-01-09.
- "Nobel laureate criticised for spruiking health supplements". BioEdge. Australasian Bioethics Information. 2004-12-14. ISSN 1446-2117. Retrieved 2008-01-09.
- I think the Herbalife relationship is part of Dr. Ignarro's story: $1 million in a year is not chump change. It's also unusual to see Nobel Prize winners promoting products, although Dr. Ignarro is not the only one. We're sensitive to biographies of living people intruding too much into their personal lives even when they're neutrally written; however Dr. Ignarro and Herbalife have been very open and frank about their relationship.
- At one point, Herbalife distributors were editing this article to plug Niteworks, which is inappropriate.
- More importantly, the rest of the article needs to be expanded so that this section is one or two paragraphs out of a 30 paragraph article, not 1 paragraph out of a handful. A Google News archive search turns up a number of potential sources that can be cited when expanding the article.
- Here's another, unrelated video of interest:
- Ignarro, Louis (Interviewee) (2007-10-03). How Louis Ignarro heard the news (Documentary). NobelPrize.org. Retrieved 2008-01-09.
- --A. B. (talk) 21:01, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- http://www.mlmwatch.org/04C/Herbalife/niteworks.html is a very one-sided piece, but it does base its claims on reliable sources. It refutes ...146.61's claims. --Elvey (talk) 13:10, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
This article readslike a commercial. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.92.79.239 (talk) 17:08, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Nobel Prize
[edit]Why isn't there a section on his Nobel Prize? –MiguelMunoz (talk) 21:46, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Good point. It's noted only at the top and bottom of the article. Fixed. Added an early life section.--Elvey (talk) 13:10, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Nitric Oxide
[edit]In the interest of knowledge, and to reduce the distortion and hype present in this section, I have tried to add balanced information on the good AND the bad of NO. I have also removed the "fluff" surrounding its "potential" to cure everything, let us live forever, and make us all rich -(ok, I exaggerate). If you want to reword the claims of potential uses to indicate that X, Y, and Z are being investigated, then go for it but be sure to supply peer reviewed references. The information I added was taken from the Wikipedia article on NO for the most part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.31.154.183 (talk) 22:26, 1 November 2008 (UTC) Also, I make the claim which should be double checked that Dr. Ignarro is advocating the use of NO supplements. I am not sure that is the case. Please verify that he is an advocate with a financial interest in the enterprise. His roles as described in this article seem to support my claim, but in the interest of fairness should be corroborated. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.31.154.183 (talk) 22:30, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- The claim is well-supported by the
Herbalife Controversey section above.
I found an odd spam advertisement talking about this man and his Nobel Prize studies. They are preaching one of ideas as, of course, a cure-all wonder drug, or a "bypass-in-a-pill". Now, I undertsnad that it is overhyped and over-glorified, but is there any truth if you replaced "NEVER HAVE {problem} AGAIN" with "REDUCE YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING {problem}"? What does the Louis have to do with it? Can anyone explain or verify this advertisement? If possible, can it be used in the article? --99.157.108.248 (talk) 00:15, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
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