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Letter

Margot Frank!!!!!!!!

I visited the Anne Frank house when I visited Amsterdam last week. I saw there the letter received by Margot Frank from the Nazis calling her up. IIRC it was from a Hauptsturmführer who was head of the Nazis in Amsterdam or the Netherlands. Does anybody know the name of this Hauptsturmführer? Would make a good addition to this article. chowells 00:31, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The letter is here [1] but unforunately it's too low resolution and has too many JPEG artifacts to read :( chowells 03:15, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I did a little digging, and I think the name is Karl Worlein. O Love isisisi goll disi go lad a --HerrMauser 01:43, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I thought that the letter said "Worlein" and googling for "Karl Worlein" brings up two hits and both say he's an SS member so that sounds pretty plausible. I created an article on Zentralstelle für jüdische Auswanderung which is the name of the organisation on the top of the letter. It needs expansion, I did find a pretty good web site about it so I'll get around to translating that some time. chowells 16:37, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The letter shown in the link above is an example of the general call-up notice sent to thousands of Jewish people in Amsterdam at that time and not the actual letter which called up Margot Frank. It's shown by the Anne Frank Foundation as an example. The person it was addressed to is shown at the top of the letter. It's difficult to make out the name clearly (Heinrich something) but you can see the address and date of birth quite clearly. --Yallery Brown 13:39, 27 October 2005

Whoops! How did I miss out that crucial fact! Thanks for pointing that out. chowells 16:37, 27 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism?

Has the name of Margot's aunt been vandalized? The change took place many, many edits ago and has remained since then. User:PurpleChez 6 May 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.24.1.102 (talk) 13:15, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism To Margot's Page

Her name is not Margoat BeWeirdo Frankenstein, she wasn't born in Neverland. I don't know if this is someone's idea of a joke, it isn't funny. It's downright disrespectful especially since she's associated with such a sensitive subject as the holocaust. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.101.53.53 (talk) 00:28, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Links to Anne

There are several places where Anne's name is linked to her Wiki page -- sometimes more than once in the same paragraph. Shouldn't only the first reference be a link? I'm not sure what the guidelines are on this.Cancilla (talk) 02:42, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent academic results?

How can Margot Frank have achieved "excellent academic results" without ever visiting a university?77.162.130.139 (talk) 23:43, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Deaths.

I don't understand why she is in "deaths from typhus" and "murdered"? These are two different things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.168.48.130 (talk) 21:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps this is because compensation would not be available for relatives if their inmate died from the same diseases that killed people everywhere including outside the German camps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.144.97.53 (talk) 21:02, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Otto Frank's typhus

Otto Frank suffered from typhus also but he was treated successfully in the Auschwitz hospital.

The Franks were evacuated from this 'certain-death' death camp to Belsen, unlike many of the inmates who voluntarily followed the guards back into Germany to avoid being liberated by the glorious allies.

According to the present holder of the copyright for Anne Frank, her diary was written by Otto Frank.

As I understand it, the Franks were not sought because they were Jewish. They lived above two Jewish men who were not sought. Otto Frank was wanted by the civilian police because of illegal transactions related to the bank he managed in Germany. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.144.97.53 (talk) 20:58, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

More about hiding

Right now, the part about Margot's family in hiding is a stub. I think some parts of her sister's article should be included in here. AprilShowersBringMayFlowers (talk) 21:19, 16 March 2018 (UTC)AprilShowersBringMayFlowers[reply]

Pronunciation

How do you pronounce her name — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.126.204.92 (talk) 23:20, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge

CLOSED

Merge is opposed as per WP:Consensus. --Whiteguru (talk) 06:52, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Non-Administrative closure

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Why does this article exist? It says nothing which is not in the Anne Frank article, and notability is not inherited. Margot's diary was not published and is lost, and this article only exists because of Anne. Even the "Further reading" section is just a list of works which all have Anne's name in the title and not Margot's. It should be merged with Anne Frank or deleted or merged to List of people associated with Anne Frank. Richard75 (talk) 19:55, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. We kind of know her mostly as an important character in her sister's diary, one of the most notable books of the 20th century, and we even have articles about fictional characters. Nothing wrong with treating her in summary style in List of people associated with Anne Frank and to have a more detailed article here. —Kusma (talk) 14:29, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't dispute that the diary is notable. That doesn't make everyone in the diary notable. Your comment does not address the rule that notability is not inherited. (Fictional characters also have to be notable to have articles about them; those articles don't undermine the requirement that the subject must be notable in its own right.) Richard75 (talk) 00:10, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think there is enough to write about Margot from reliable sources that it would be too much for List of people associated with Anne Frank. Yes, notability is not inherited, but interest in Anne has led to quite a bit more interest in Margot than in most other victims of the Holocaust. Ultimately, there is no question that Wikipedia should write about her, and it is just a question of how to best present the information, and I think a standalone article works better. —Kusma (talk) 09:59, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't very much to write about Margot though. Almost this whole article is about the whole family, which just repeats what is already in Anne's article. Richard75 (talk) 11:13, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Vandalism?

Is the cover photo actually margot frank...? it seems photoshopped. Hexxergram (talk) 08:00, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]