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A news item involving J. Michael Kosterlitz was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 10 October 2016.

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He is also a notable alpinist! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.38.167.123 (talk) 13:05, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Name

He seems to go by the names Michael Kosterlitz or J. Michael Kosterlitz these days. Can we get a consensus on changing this? Jonathan A Jones (talk) 17:11, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Commonname would indicate that as the majority of reliable sources refer to him as John M. Kosterlitz, that should be the article title. His previous published work tends to be that, the Nobel is in that name, and the news sources covering it are using it. Only in death does duty end (talk) 17:14, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Actually the Nobel announcement [1] uses J. Michael Kosterlitz. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 17:15, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And so does his University's news page [2]. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 17:17, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In fact I'm struggling to find a significant web use of "John M. Kosterlitz" outside Wikipedia. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 17:21, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Almost all his papers are published as "J. M. Kosterlitz" but some of his most recent papers use "J. Michael Kosterlitz". None that I can find use "John M. Kosterlitz". Jonathan A Jones (talk) 17:38, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

His department faculty page and faculty database entry at Brown both use "J. Michael." - Kzirkel (talk) 19:42, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

New York Times is using "J. Michael." I'll request the move. - Kzirkel (talk) 20:05, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 October 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved — Amakuru (talk) 11:47, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

John M. Kosterlitz → J. Michael Kosterlitz – News reports, Nobel Committee, and his university all refer to him as J. Michael. See the talk page for specific links. Kzirkel (talk) 20:09, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 20:58, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support per my arguments in the section above. "Michael Kosterlitz" is better than "John M. Kosterlitz", but per WP:COMMONNAME the right name is "J. Michael Kosterlitz". Jonathan A Jones (talk) 21:30, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

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I was a student with JMK and he was always known as Mike and he was still Mike when I saw him again a few years back - I didn't even know that his first name was John Jonathan Bard (User talk:Joanthan Bard) 22:15, 4 October 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jblbard (talk • contribs) [reply]

Nationality

According to http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/10/04/british-scientists-nobel-_n_12330114.html, Kosterlitz is a dual US-UK citizen. 15.203.169.112 (talk) 13:30, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"U.S. law permits multiple citizenship. A citizen of another country naturalized as a U.S. citizen may retain their previous citizenship". Are we certain Kosterlitz renounced his British citizenship? If so, it should be sourced. If not, his joint citizenship should be acknowledged. Allegiance is not the same as citizenship. Macdonald-ross (talk) 16:37, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why is described by the awkward form of "Scottish-born British-American"? Just British-American is sufficient and is all that the reference supports.--135.196.181.173 (talk) 11:35, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Changed this.--Politovsky (talk) 14:22, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Date of Birth

He was born on June 22, 1943. I have a copy of his birth certificate [3] see also [4] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.29.146.12 (talk) 07:14, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:BLPPRIVACY and WP:BLPPRIMARY. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 08:17, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So, what is the problem with the 2 sources I submitted?

These are not reliable secondary sources: see WP:RS and in particular WP:UGC. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 10:49, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This [5], however, is a reliable source. If you want to source it to that then fine. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 10:51, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Now done. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 21:41, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]