Talk:Myōbudani Kiyoshi

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wrong article location?

I think at minimum this article should be moved to Myobudani Kiyoshi to be in line with all other rikishi articles. In addition, I wonder if "Kiyoshi" is the proper naming at all. The last shikona used was Myobudani Yasuhiko, the one used on reaching his career-high rank was Myobudani Rikinobu (that's where the ja.wiki article is located, though not necessarily for that reason). Of course, I guess a case can be made that he changed his given name so often that Kiyoshi as the real name is the only one to stand out. Thoughts? Zeyes (talk) 18:44, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well I created this article and I'm well aware of our sumo naming conventions so I can't for the life of me remember why I did it the Western way (well, WP:MOSJAPAN says generally we should but we've always used the pseudonym exception for rikishi). It should be moved, no doubt. Looking at Sumo Reference I see this guy did indeed have an absurd number of shikona changes:

Myobudani Kiyoshi - Myobudani Seinosuke - Myobudani Kiyoshi - Myobudani Iwao - Yoshibanada Kazuhiro - Myobudani Kiyoshi - Myobudani Rikinobu - Myobudani Noritaka - Myobudani Rikinobu - Myobudani Oki - Myobudani Yasuhiko

We normally go with the final shikona, although there are exceptions if a rikishi is best known under a different one - for example, Daigo Hisateru was Wakamisugi Akiteru when he won his yusho (and reached his career high rank, too). In this case there are so many changes I would go for Myobudani Kiyoshi as the simplest solution. The infobox says "Myobudani Yasuhiko" so that inconsistency will need to be cleared up.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:31, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone ahead and moved the article and made the needed fixes. A bit more messy than it needed to be, but anyway... Zeyes (talk) 18:54, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I must try and flesh this out a bit more - you don't get that many sumo wrestlers becoming Jehovah's Witnesses, after all.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 19:29, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]