Talk:Nahariya
Spelling
[edit]The municipality of Nahariya website (see external link on page) spells it Nahariya, so I guess that's official. Whether it is correct according to the Academy for the Hebrew Language is another issue; that I do not know. -- Y Ynhockey || Talk Y 10:54, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
- The Academy puts a double Y because of the dagesh on the yod. I am fine with Nahariya. That is also what the JP and Haaretz in English would use. Gilgamesh, Izak or anyone else, is there an agreement by now on which transliteration standard to use? gidonb 14:50, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
- I've only ever seen it with 2 y's when transliterated by people who are even more nitpicky about such things than I am (and yes, they exist)... Tomertalk 08:31, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Demographics and History
[edit]Was the municipality really started from nothing in the 1930's, or was there already a community there? It would be good if the history information reaches a little farther back. Also in demographics, "97.3% Jewish and non-Arabs" isn't very informative. Why combine Jews and non-Arabs into the same demographic group? I suggest a breakdown into at least Jewish, Arab, and "other" categories. CarlGH 10:19, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- I believe 'Nahariya was founded in the 1930s' means just that - it was built from nothing in the 30s, granted, at the time it was a very small settlement. I will now update the article with bits of additional historic info from the Hebrew Wikipedia.
- The other thing is Jews + non-Arabs, because the Israel Central Bureau of statistics makes all censuses in this way, dividing between Arabs and non-Arabs. Sometimes the non-Arabs are further divided into Jews and others, but I can't find the information for Nahariya on the CBS site, so I can't say if this is the case here. If you find another census, or the CBS subdivisions, feel free to update the article.
- -- Ynhockey (Talk) 10:28, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- (after edit conflict) Hi CarlGH, I believe that Nahariya was a new village in the 1930s on land that was bought to build that community. Please feel free to look for more information and add what you can find. Non-Arabs should indeed become "other", but only after the figure for Arabs is added. To separate Jews from "others" (3-4% of the Israelis) is usually difficult as the statistic is mostly given together with Jews. One of the reasons is that the overwhelming majority of the "others" are now family members of Jews who immigrated to Israel under the "law of return". Before the huge influx of "others" from the former USSR, the tiny "other" population (then perhaps 0.2% of the Israelis) was added to the Druze population. All Druze, almost all Muslims and a very large majority of the Christians are now summarized under Arabs. I think that the new classification lost detail, but even then it did not have the detail of the size of the "others". gidonb 10:40, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
I cannot find Nahariya in the 1922 census of Palestine or the 1931 census of Palestine at all. In the Village Statistics, 1945 it had 1,440 inhabitants, all Jews: see Department of Statistics, 1945, p. 4, Huldra (talk) 21:02, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Not finding the name in 1922 means nothing in this context. The city today must include much larger area than the small agricultural land where the village was founded. So the question is not wether the name Nahariy(y)a existed in 1922 (which obiously couldn't). The question is what was there in the present day area of the city in the 1930s and before.
More generally: in the early 20th century there were hundreds of Arab villages and dozens of Arab towns in present day Israel but only a few of them appear in Wikipedia even if Israeli municipalities cover them (literally and figuratively). This biased practice is distorting history and Wikpedia itself. The bias is apparent because contrary to the claim that there was no history of the city before the 1930s, the history section indeed tells a story but does it with a millennium-long break.
peyerk (talk) 20:04, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Name question
[edit]I take it that this city's name means "River of Hashem". If I'm correct, wouldn't it be more correct to say "River of the Lord"? I don't see any sources present for either name; otherwise I'd change it or not bring up the subject. Nyttend (talk) 13:15, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
The name Nahariya came from the river(nahar in Hebrew)which runs across the city. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.64.16.190 (talk) 09:21, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
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