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A fact from Olga Onuch appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 30 September 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Olga Onuch is believed to be the first professor of Ukrainian politics in the English-speaking world?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Olga Onuch.

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The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet talk 04:16, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the BBC believe that Olga Onuch is the first professor of Ukrainian politics in the English-speaking world? Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-66620494
.alt1.. that Professor Olga Onuch's photos of Ukrainian flags in Manchester were shown on Ukrainian TV? Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-66620494
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Emine Arslan
- Comment: see an error? fix it ... its a wiki. Anyone have a photo of her with a free license?

Created by Cordless Larry (talk) and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 16:50, 29 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Olga Onuch; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Beginning review.

General eligibility:

New enough:
Long enough:
Other problems: - article has a stub tag on talk page

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - n

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - n
Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: The stub tag needs removing from the talk page. Copyvio basically fine but the phrase "after holding research posts at the University of Toronto" lights up so could be rephrased. I am not quite happy with the hook - the BBC article begins "A university has appointed what it said is the first professor of Ukrainian politics in the English-speaking world" so it is the university's belief rather than the BBC's. But that said I think it's a better hook fact than alt1 if you'd like to reword it. DrThneed (talk) 04:44, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've improved the paraphrasing, DrThneed. For the hook, how about "that Olga Onuch is believed to be the first professor of Ukrainian politics in the English-speaking world?" - is that too passively worded? Cordless Larry (talk) 20:13, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about the delay. I am OK with that - I did a bit of hunting around and am satisfied the university claim is likely true (and they are pretty definitive about in their own article "the first-ever Professor of Comparative and Ukrainian Politics in the UK and the wider English-speaking world".

There is still a stub class assessment on the talk page if you would be so kind as to remove it, then I think we're good to go. DrThneed (talk) 06:29, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks, DrThneed! Cordless Larry (talk) 06:42, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy! Changing assessment, cheers. DrThneed (talk) 06:49, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Personal views - or agenda setting?

Is it only by chance that - just when media outlets are putting out blatantly pro-Ukrainian stories - Olga Onuch is given a position that pushes a pro-Ukrainian agenda? For if the the views she presents are her our, then no problem. But if she works for or is involved with the Ukrainian Govt in an way, then should not such information be highlighted in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.166.193 (talk) 07:54, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I created the article because I saw a BBC article about her. I wasn't aware of her having any position with the Ukrainian government but if there's a reliable source for that, of course it should be added. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:29, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]