Talk:Peppermint Patty

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Patty last name[edit]

Just an addition. Party's last name is used on January 8, 1985 as well.

Dan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.147.104.34 (talk) 01:49, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Totally not a lesbian[edit]

I keep seeing fourth hand sources that state that CMS said that she wasn't a lesbian. (Which given her only known crush is a no-brainer.) But where did he say this? Hcobb (talk) 02:03, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

It's not currently in the article, but the frequent pop culture refs to Patty being a lesbian probably needs some mention (citing reliable sources that discuss it, of course). "Schultz consciously named the first Patty in Peanuts after his cousin Patricia Swanson, whose temperament more closely resembles that of the more substantial character Peppermint Patty, but after revealing this to Patty Swanson, and especially after lesbian groups claimed Peppermint Patty as one of their own, Shultz kept his cousin concealed as his source, partly out of respect for Patty's privacy." (Schulz and Peanuts: A Biography by David Michaelis, p 221.) After Ellen, of course, discusses it,[1] as do Queering Elementary Education: Advancing the Dialogue about Sexualities and Schooling (William J. Letts, James Thomas Sears, page 6), Learning to Live (Douglas Palermo, page 2), Gay Affirmative Therapy for the Straight Clinician: The Essential Guide (Joe Kort, digital copy - no page # available), Fool for Love: New Gay Fiction (edited by Timothy J. Lambert, R. D. Cochrane, digital copy - no page # available), SpongeBob SquarePants and Philosophy: Soaking Up Secrets Under the Sea! (edited by Joseph J. Foy, pp 69-70), etc. - SummerPhD (talk) 22:41, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Seventh new character?[edit]

The claim that Peppermint Patty was the seventh new character introduced after the launch of the strip is overlooking various, more minor characters (Charlotte Braun, for example, or Faron, or 4, 5, and 6.) This should be excised. (I'm avoiding editing it myself due to COI concerns.) --Nat Gertler (talk) 06:48, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Punctuation marks and the Reichardt name[edit]

The quoting of the Feb 5 1993 strip has just been edited from being incorrect to being also incorrect. Schulz used some non-standard punctuation techniques, and if we're quoting them (and frankly, I'm not sure we need to quote the strip here), we should quote them correctly. What follows, with bullets added at the front and with straight quotes, is the text of the strip:

  • SEE, MARCIE? MY AD IS IN THE PAPER..
  • "HELP WANTED.. ATTRACTIVE YOUNG LADY CAN'T REMEMBER HISTORY DATES"
  • "DOESN'T UNDERSTAND FRACTIONS.. CALL PATRICIA REICHARDT AT NUMBER BELOW.."
  • WHAT DO YOU THINK, MARCIE?
  • YOU ARE EXTREMELY WEIRD, SIR

If we include it (and again, I think it's not necessary for the point being made), we should use Schulz's double-periods where he uses them, and not use periods at all where he doesn't use them (not inserting them, per MOS:LQ). Schulz used these techniques often enough that they should not be considered an error on his part. In terms of capitalization under MOS:ALLCAPS, the two periods should be considered an end of a sentence. Schulz seems to use it where we would normally expect a period, not an ellipsis. If for some reason we do need to list all the times that Reichardt appears, there is a third: Jan 8, 1985. I will not do these edits myself, due to a conflict of interest: I work frequently on Peanuts licensed projects. --Nat Gertler (talk) 13:52, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

in the very first line of dialog, a direct-address comma is required between SEE and MARCIE. It’s likely that this was lost, since Schulz’s punctuation was often written with a very light ink stroke, when the strip was subsequently printed in books, etc. Peace. —MuzikJunky (talk) 21:12, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
Which is why that comma is above, it is in the source. But there are the wrong number of periods in the article after "wanted" (should be 2) "dates" (should be zero), "fractions" (should be one), and "sir" (should be none.) --Nat Gertler (talk) 00:20, 28 December 2014 (UTC)