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Amyclam can you figure out the copyright issue? -Seazzy (talk) 22:02, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As this has been stuck for a while and the only problem appears to be the image, I think this should be good to go, albeit the hook shouldn't be in the image slot. Note though that the nominator hasn't edited in some time and help does not appear to be incoming (despite my two requests on Discord), so I think this should just move forward pic-less. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:25, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

PhamThanDuat School
PhamThanDuat School
I've been in touch with the page author but I'm not sure they know how to resolve the image issue. There is another image that is free on the page if that helps. - Seazzy (talk) 14:03, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Yoninah: Took a closer look and saw the cite tags. Have added the citation and corrected the date (based on the source). Hook must be re-written with new date of 1975. Can this be done here, or is there another way it needs to be done? If there is anything missing, please let us know! Seazzy (talk) 15:20, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Seazzy: thank you for adding the cite and correcting the date. Every paragraph has at least one cite now. Sometimes in the course of DYK nominations, the nominator finds that information is incorrect and is able to update it. So I'm glad you did that. To change text in the hook, you can either strike out and replace the information in the original hook, or write an alt hook:
  • ALT1: ... that the tombstone of Phạm Thận Duật (pictured) was buried face down until 1975 to conceal his cultural, military and anti-colonial activities from the French?
  • However, I'd like to suggest this hook wording:
  • ALT2: ... that the tombstone of Phạm Thận Duật was buried face down for nearly a century to conceal his cultural, military, and anti-colonial activities from the French?
  • Please let me know what you think of ALT2, and then I'll promote it. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:32, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Yoninah: ALT2 is great! Let's go with that one. Seazzy (talk) 17:01, 19 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Seazzy: thanks. But we have one problem. Double-checking the source with Google Translate, the source says nothing about the tombstone being buried to conceal his cultural, military, and anti-colonial activities from the French. It just says it was done to conceal the tombstone from the French. Do you have another source for this info? Yoninah (talk) 16:59, 20 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
* Couldn't have put it better myself, @Drmies:. I've been working on clearing the image rights, but it seems to be a circular problem. It just needs a checkmark under Vietnamese copyright to qualify for international, but there is no Vietnamese laws around this (at least not posted to Wikipedia). Seazzy (talk) 17:22, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]