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"Professional wrestling in Japan is commonly known as Professional wrestling". This is surely one of the most fascinating opening sentences in the whole of Wikipedia. -- 22.214.171.124 01:59, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Let's see if we can do something to fix it... --Voievod 21:57, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
This article is completely full of inaccurate information:
"The wrestlers use shoot style strikes and kicks and complex submission moves. The wrestlers are also legitimate athletes and are strictly not sports entertainers."
Some wrestlers may use shoot style strikes but most certainly hold back. And there are also many wrestlers in Japan who fit into the category of "sports entertainers" such as Ultimo Dragon or Dragon Kid, along with many American wrestlers (like Hulk Hogan) who have wrestled in Japan. The sport may be taken more seriously in Japan and the rules are strictly enforced, however, the winner in most matches is pre-determined.
"Most of the Japanese organizations do not follow the faces and heels style of their Western counterparts. There is no good guy/bad guy structure, it's strictly competition between the wrestlers. "
Every match may not be arranged with a "Good guy" pitted against a "bad guy" but there are certainly bad guy characters(heels) as well as heroes(faces). —Preceding unsigned comment added by DemiRDR (talk • contribs) 13:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- This page does smack of a certain degree of puro-fanboy bias at the expense of American pro wrestling...personally, I appreciate both, but I think the page as written has some definite NPOV issues. The part about the lack of dirty finishes is also misleading, as it certainly hasn't always been that way.
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The definition of proresu as a "combat sport" is patently false. Proresu is nothing but a Japanese style of pro wrestling, which is worked. In no way is it combat; mock combat, perhaps, but the definition of a combat sport requires the intent to contact with intent to inflict some level of physical damage. In pro wrestling, even hard shoot-style pro wrestling, this just isn't the case.
I suspect the reason that false definition has remained for so long is that is had a footnote citation. But that citation led to this article which is a practically anonymous posting at a site which lets anybody post anything. That article is attributed to "James", with no confirmable identity or credentials. This James could be anybody; I could write an article on that same site under the name "James" and claim that the moon glows blue on Tuesdays. But that wouldn't make it true. In short, the source has no merit under Wikipedia standards for reliable sources (see here and here) and should not be used as a citation.
I can also find no other source on the web that defines puroresu as legitimate combat. If anyone wishes to contest it, please post here first so it can be confirmed. TravelingCat (talk) 20:48, 28 January 2011 (UTC)