Talk:2024 Varzaqan helicopter crash
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the 2024 Varzaqan helicopter crash article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives: 1Auto-archiving period: 7 days ![]() |
![]() | The contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to post-1978 Iranian politics, which has been designated as a contentious topic. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page. |
![]() | The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute. When updating the article, be bold, but not reckless. Feel free to try to improve the article, but don't take it personally if your changes are reversed; instead, come here to the talk page to discuss them. Content must be written from a neutral point of view. Include citations when adding content and consider tagging or removing unsourced information. |
![]() | This page is not a forum for general discussion about 2024 Varzaqan helicopter crash. Any such comments may be removed or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. You may wish to ask factual questions about 2024 Varzaqan helicopter crash at the Reference desk. |
While the biographies of living persons policy does not apply directly to the subject of this article, it may contain material that relates to living persons, such as friends and family of persons no longer living, or living persons involved in the subject matter. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons must be removed immediately. If such material is re-inserted repeatedly, or if there are other concerns related to this policy, please see this noticeboard. |
![]() | This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to multiple WikiProjects. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
![]() | Page history | |||||||||
|
No Survivors
[edit]CNN is reporting that "No survivors" were found at the crash site. They are citing both IRINN and Mehr News. https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/raisi-iran-president-helicopter-crash/h_84e1c9ad10338418fd5540d8f7723cc6 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coasterghost (talk • contribs) 03:16, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Brother you just added a new section instead of adding a topic, moreover I think that this should be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M Waleed (talk • contribs) 04:08, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Threats to the diaspora and to anti-regime protesters and subsequent legal consequences
[edit]Just days before the incident in London, there was an incident in the DC area where diaspora members protesting a memorial to Raisi received death threats from someone who turned out to be an employee of the Iranian Special Interests Section of the Embassy of Pakistan. The staffer, Ramezan Soltan-Mohammadi, has received a temporary restraining order from the Maryland court system that prevents him from coming close to at least one protest leader's home and workplace. A group comprised of members of the diaspora has taken him to court, and the case is ongoing. 100.15.173.239 (talk) 22:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have a source? - ZLEA T\C 23:17, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.iranintl.com/en/202405286086 100.15.173.239 (talk) 01:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Technically not an article, but an opinion piece in The Hill has also mentioned the incident: https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4696456-why-does-iran-still-have-operatives-in-washington/ 100.15.173.239 (talk) 08:50, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Another source following more developments on this case: https://www.iranintl.com/en/202406188444 100.15.173.239 (talk) 04:42, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not convinced that these incidents are within the scope of this article, of which the primary topic is the crash itself. Threats against people protesting a commemoration of one of the victims of the crash would likely be a bit WP:OFFTOPIC. I'm not against a brief mention of the threats in this article, but any in-depth coverage should probably be in Interests Section of Iran in the United States or another article more closely related to the threats themselves. - ZLEA T\C 06:51, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, it'd probably be at most a short statement, comparable to the description of the London incident already in the article. 100.15.173.239 (talk) 06:00, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not convinced that these incidents are within the scope of this article, of which the primary topic is the crash itself. Threats against people protesting a commemoration of one of the victims of the crash would likely be a bit WP:OFFTOPIC. I'm not against a brief mention of the threats in this article, but any in-depth coverage should probably be in Interests Section of Iran in the United States or another article more closely related to the threats themselves. - ZLEA T\C 06:51, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Add this hypothesis to end of domestic reactions
[edit]On social media platforms, Iranians and Iranian exiles are speculating that Raisi's death was an assassination carried out by members of the Islamic Republic, frequently using the terms "removed" or "deleted". One popular theory is that Mojtaba Khamenei, the son of the Supreme Leader, was connected to the death. The premise that runs through most of these posts is that Raisi may have been a contender in the unofficial, unspoken race to become the next ruler of the Islamic Republic and therefore had to be "removed". "In Iran's conspiratorial political culture, few will believe that Raisi's death was an accident," Karim Sadjadpour of the Carnegie Endowment for Peace posted on X on Sunday night, hours before Raisi's death was confirmed.[1] The many violent and unexplained deaths in the Islamic Republic's 45-year history add to the speculation.[2] Another reason for speculation is that the pictures of the accident scene published by the official Iranian media were from another accident a few years ago.[3] Jason Rezaian, a journalist and former hostage of the Islamic Republic, thinks that the most likely cause of this fatal helicopter crash is that it was an accident that most likely happened because a large part of the Islamic Republic is in an advanced state of decay and points to the extremely high number of deaths from traffic accidents in Iran.[4] — Preceding unsigned comment added by EiersalatmitGurken (talk • contribs) 09:21, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Rumors, Conspiracy Theories Abound After Raisi's Death". Iran International. Retrieved 2024-06-19.
- ^ "Opinion - What killed President Ebrahim Raisi? Iranians have theories". Washington Post. Retrieved 2024-06-19.
- ^ "Rumors, Conspiracy Theories Abound After Raisi's Death". Iran International. Retrieved 2024-06-19.
- ^ "Opinion - What killed President Ebrahim Raisi? Iranians have theories". Washington Post. Retrieved 2024-06-19.
- Wikipedia controversial topics
- C-Class aviation articles
- C-Class Aviation accident articles
- Aviation accident task force articles
- WikiProject Aviation articles
- C-Class Disaster management articles
- Mid-importance Disaster management articles
- C-Class Iran articles
- Top-importance Iran articles
- WikiProject Iran articles
- C-Class politics articles
- Low-importance politics articles
- WikiProject Politics articles
- C-Class Death articles
- Low-importance Death articles
- B-Class military history articles
- B-Class military aviation articles
- Military aviation task force articles
- B-Class biography (military) articles
- Military biography work group articles
- B-Class Balkan military history articles
- Balkan military history task force articles
- B-Class British military history articles
- British military history task force articles
- B-Class European military history articles
- European military history task force articles
- B-Class Middle Eastern military history articles
- Middle Eastern military history task force articles
- B-Class Ottoman military history articles
- Ottoman military history task force articles
- B-Class Russian, Soviet and CIS military history articles
- Russian, Soviet and CIS military history task force articles
- B-Class Post-Cold War articles
- Post-Cold War task force articles
- Wikipedia In the news articles
- Pages in the Wikipedia Top 25 Report