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Randy Orton Face Turn[edit]

Legacy attacked Orton last RAW, so he is now face —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.113.117.247 (talk) 17:26, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

That's yet to be seen. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:37, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

He cheered quite a lot on last night's raw, so I would say he is a face. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.17.34 (talk) 14:34, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, he might have been cheered last night, but that still doesn't prove anything. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:27, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
It's not enough to say the WWE turned him face. We have to wait. –Turian (talk) 17:35, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Big Red[edit]

Randy Orton is starring in a new movie called "Big Red" produced by WWE films [1] - KingRaven (>$.$)> (talk) 17:00, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Face Turn(2010-2013)[edit]

After his feud with legacy at the Royal rumble and the Elimination Chamber he'll face them at Wrestlemania 26 becoming a face in the process —Preceding unsigned comment added by DXJORDAN1 (talkcontribs) 18:41, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Orton turning face is not noticeable. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:42, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

he's been getting cheered and teamed up with John Cena on Raw, Randy in now a face. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.17.34 (talk) 15:29, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Still not noticeable. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:33, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
And it is way too early to make judgments about the situation. You can't see the forest from the trees. –Turian (talk) 17:48, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually, it is pretty damn noticeable if Randy, who was one of the most booed people in WWE, turns face. MaraquanWocky1 (talk) 20:36, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Update the article[edit]

Can someone put in the fact that Randy's the 2009 PWI wrestler of the year in the article under accomplishments and championships? Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PWI_Wrestler_of_the_Year (RKOLegacy (talk) 18:14, 4 April 2010 (UTC))

Yes check.svg DoneTurian (talk) 19:53, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia can not source itself. You must have evidence he won the award directly from PWI.--WillC 20:26, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
It is sourced. –Turian (talk) 20:32, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
No it isn't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.119.74.173 (talk) 15:06, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Liamo.sheehan, 16 April 2010[edit]

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Say that Orton became a fan favorite the night after Wrestlemania 26 after John Cena announced him as his tag team partner against Batista and Jack Swagger and that Orton won the match by pinning Swagger Liamo.sheehan (talk) 15:49, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Just because Cena announced him as his tag team partner the night after doesn't mean that Orton is a fan favorite. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:54, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

No, he's definitely a face. The announcers put him over as such and if you've been watching Raw, he gets the reaction of a face. Ksefan1122 (talk) 20:19, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

There are popular heels. Think of Stone Cold, he was a heel for almost his entire career, but he gets cheered all the time. –Turian (talk) 21:56, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Accomplishments in the lead[edit]

Why his accomplishments haven't be stated in the lead like other wrestler's pages? We should write how many titles he won and how many times he became world champion like other superstar's pages.--Rimara (talk) 03:46, 24 April 2010 (UTC)


I told the author of thee page all his title reins..^ CierraO'Shields (talk) 22:20, 14 June 2013 (UTC)Cierra

TWEENER?[edit]

Wouldn't Randy Orton be a "tweener" because of the fact that he RKO's whoever he wants... from raw guest hosts to Edge and other superstars.CROSSFIRE96 00:38, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Shoulder dislocation[edit]

Randy didn't dislocate his shoulder, his shoulder was separated. They are two different things. Will someone please change this? MaraquanWocky1 (talk) 23:08, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Done. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:20, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Chris Jericho's Return[edit]

There's no mention of Chris Jericho's feud with Randy Orton upon his return to WWE. His history goes from his feud with Shawn Michaels, which culminated at Survivor Series, to the match against Jeff Hardy at Royal Rumble, skipping that year's Armageddon where he defeated Chris Jericho to retain the WWE Championship. Considering the amount of attention paid to Jericho's return, I think this rivalry should be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.71.54.116 (talk) 20:49, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Nothing noticeable occurred during that feud. This, however, fits better at Jericho's article page. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:53, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Pending changes[edit]

This article is one of a small number (about 100) selected for the first week of the trial of the Wikipedia:Pending Changes system on the English language Wikipedia. All the articles listed at Wikipedia:Pending changes/Queue are being considered for level 1 pending changes protection.

The following request appears on that page:

However with only a few hours to go, comments have only been made on two of the articles.

Please update the page as appropriate.

Note that I am not involved in this project any more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially.

Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 20:18, 15 June 2010 (UTC).

Return to singles competition[edit]

Orton competed in the WWE paper-view "Money in the Bank" but came up short. The following night Orton became the #1 contender for Sheamus's WWE Championship by winning a Triple Threat match against Edge and Chris Jericho —Preceding unsigned comment added by G064 (talkcontribs) 13:29, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

We don't add every loss, and we don't add week-by-week events. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:19, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Powerslam[edit]

Someone should add snap powerslam, or a scoop slam to his signatures. Very commonly used by Orton.

http://www.pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/wwerawreport/article_42593.shtml http://www.pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/wwerawreport/article_42595.shtml Eemiva (talk) 00:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Swinehouse, 20 September 2010[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}} On Night of Champions in 2010, Randy Orton participated in a Six-Pack Challenge match and out of the five other participants, pinned Chris Jericho, Wade Barrett and finally, Sheamus to win his fourth WWE title reign, and seventh overall world title reign. Swinehouse (talk) 03:58, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Celestra (talk) 04:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Picture caption[edit]

The picture depicting Randy Orton at Wrestlemania is captioned as his entrance. Actually, it was his victory pose. 187.152.94.237 (talk) 01:33, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Adding Olympic Slam as new signature move[edit]

Orton has been doing the Olympic slam for almost two weeks now, so I'm adding the Olympic slam as his signature move, here are the sources: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W1WlCvdzvM and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN18_z__SGg Kouji nakajima omori (talk) 14:56, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Those links can't be used as sources due to WP:LINKVIO. Please provide reliable sources before adding that information to the article again. You can see a listing of reliable wrestling-related sources at WP:PW/SG#Sources. Thanks, NiciVampireHeart 18:19, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Powerbomb[edit]

Randy Orton has been using the powerbomb recently and I have been wondering if it should be added? Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 19:47, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Let's give a little more time. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:35, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Chasz90, 22 January 2011[edit]

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Add that after Orton lost the Championship to the Miz they have been fueding ever since,the Miz always trying to one up Orton and having Alwx Riley fight his battles.

                                        RKO

Chasz90 (talk) 03:08, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Skier Dude (talk) 05:47, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Sausage077, 23 January 2011[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}}


Sausage077 (talk) 13:01, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. NiciVampireHeart 13:05, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Sausage077, 23 January 2011[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}} At TLC Orton had a rematch to get his title back but was unsuccesesful due to Alex Riley's interference. Orton and Miz will meet again at Royal Rumble for the title.

Sausage077 (talk) 13:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Per the template:
This template may only be used when followed by a specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y".
Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Please provide reliable sources that support this change. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 16:21, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Feud with CM Punk (2011)[edit]

At the Royal Rumble, CM Punk cost Orton an opportunity to regain the WWE Title. Then on the next night on Raw Punk said " The reason why I did what I did is because you punted me in the head at Unforgiven and cost me my World Title. So, Orton punted Husky Harris in the head for what Punk had did at the Royal Rumble. So at the Elimination Chamber Punk had eliminated Orton. Then on the next week on Raw Orton punted Michael McGullicuty.Irt is official CM Punk vs Randy Orton at Wrestlemania 27. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tman819126 (talkcontribs) 02:29, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

For me, I think it is unnecessary to put it in as a new section, since Randy Orton's previous feuds were not stated as sections. UserTalk 14:25, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Return to SmackDown(2011-present)[edit]

on April 4th 2011 Randy Orton was drafted back to the SmackDown brand.

Actually, it was April 25, 2011, and it's already noted in the article, complete with source. NiciVampireHeart 16:48, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

On SmackDown, Randy Orton and Christian defeated Brodus Clay and Alberto Del Rio. It's to air on tape delay on Friday. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.126.135.230 (talk) 19:54, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Yea, so?   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 13:13, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Randy orton captured the world title defeting christian marking for the second time its to air on tape delay on may the 6th. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.125.56.134 (talk) 17:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
And this helps improve the article how, exactly?   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 12:23, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
THANK YOU Arc...--UnquestionableTruth-- 13:01, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Seriously? Are you suggesting that we should leave out said information? Yes, it was redundant of them to bring it up here since it was already in the article at the time of their edit, but it's fairly obvious why they were posting it. Comments like "Yea, so?" and "And this helps improve the article how, exactly?" aren't all that helpful themselves. You could have a left a note saying "That won't be included because it's a non-notable, week-by-week result" or "we need a reliable soure for all spoiler information to be included in articles". Your comments give nothing for the editors to seize upon to help improve their editing or gain a better understanding of how wikipedia works. If your comments aren't helpful, perhaps you should re-think posting them in future. NiciVampireHeart 13:31, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

[2] add this to his signature moves. Randy Orton is the current WWE World Heavyweight Champion and he will be at Wrestlemania 30.

In wrestling[edit]

add the Jumping knee drop,Gutwrench elevated neckbreaker and the Lou Thesz Press — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.105.126.233 (talk) 23:15, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

The jumping knee drop is the only actually not there. Do you have a reliable source for that move? Varghoo (talk) 15:27, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

    1. The Punt Kick is formally Randy Orton's finishing maneuver, though its been banned, add it back to the finisher moves — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.87.26.42 (talk) 09:21, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Guests cannot edit the page![edit]

Come on. He's only Randy Orton! 86.184.86.42 (talk) 21:52, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

You can make a request for someone to edit Varghoo (talk) 15:22, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

It's quite all right. I can see why it had to be locked. WWE fanboys and trolls love editing nonsense on certain wrestling related pages.86.184.86.42 (talk) 21:34, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

randy orton[edit]

Randy orton is a great wrestler and he is very influential person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polly908 (talkcontribs) 20:18, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

wrestlersincara.blogspot.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smackdown Superstar Sin Cara (talkcontribs) 08:09, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 31 December 2011[edit]

Please add another sentence after the sentence "During the tapings on the December 27 edition of Smackdown, Orton sustained a back injury during another match against Barrett, the injuries taking out Orton for a number of weeks ." after the sentence, please write the sentence "In actuality, Orton has failed the WWE Wellness Test for the third time, and WWE is considering firing him.


Awsomeman181 (talk) 22:40, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --Bryce (talk | contribs) 00:59, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Randy Orton Wellness Test[edit]

OMG wikipedia sucks now, I'm not even going to bother posting what I was going to post. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.160.175.165 (talk) 10:35, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

.مصارع محترف--46.60.58.90 (talk) 11:44, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Early Life[edit]

The article says :

Orton is of English, Scots-Irish, German, and Dutch Descent

There, he expressed his Christian faith by telling another marine that he "better believe in Jesus."

The full quote was “You better believe in Jesus, boy.”  I don’t think he was “expressing his Christian faith” so much as trying to intimidate somebody. The implication being that baring divine intervention, the guy was going to get hurt. I am requesting that this passage simply be deleted outright.

Done Not a very reliable source either. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 04:41, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

A correction needs to be made here. Randy Orton was scheduled to star in Marine 3 Homefront but has now been pulled from the movie by WWE. The reason for this is cause of bad history with the Marines. As this article correctly states Orton was discharged from the Marines after going AWOL on two occasions. After WWE announced that he would be starring in this movie some of the soldiers from his Marine days started complaining. Their voices were heard as of today, April 3rd, 2012, WWE has announced that Randy Orton has now been pulled from the movie.

Randy's Wikipedia picture[edit]

Do Something that is more current.. https://www.google.com/search?q=randy+orton+2013&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=iJe7UbijHqfuyQHA2IDABg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=667#facrc=_&imgrc=B1ob9gun6pj8kM%3A%3B-Tx3q9gDkgjFnM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.wwe.com%252Ff%252Fstyles%252Fphoto_large%252Fpublic%252Fphoto%252Fimage%252F2013%252F05%252FRAW_1041_Photo_017.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.wwe.com%252Fshows%252Fraw%252F2013-05-06%252Frandy-orton-damien-sandow-photos%3B642%3B361

Suspended 60 days for violating wellness policy[edit]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1202831-wwe-announces-that-randy-orton-has-been-suspended-for-60-days — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.135.191.138 (talk) 04:31, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Typo?[edit]

In the theme songs section it says he used the Rated RKO theme as "apart of Rated RKO". Shouldn't it be "a part", whereas "apart" would mean the opposite? --78.62.181.245 (talk) 19:07, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 2 July 2012[edit]

In the article it says he was suspended for smoking marijuana he wasn't in his dvd it says he was suspended for rolling a joint and trying to hide it in his bag. 67.239.114.175 (talk) 22:54, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

The url cited suggests the source may not have been reliable. It is impossible to verify that, since the link is dead. I've simply removed the sentence. Rivertorch (talk) 05:38, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 June 2013[edit]

I would like to ask that a few things be changed on the Randy Orton Page. I would first ask that Randy Orton's height and weight be changed. He is 6 foot and 5 inches tall and is 235 pounds. (I got that from WWE.com, Randy Ortons Profile.) Also The Legacy Debut on January 5,2009 an Disbanded on April 27 of 2010. The Legacy theme song was 'It's a New Day' by Adelitas Way. Lastly, Randy Orton has been WWE Champion (Four times) World Heavyweight Champion (9 Times) Intercontinental Champion(One time, 210 days, Armageddon, Mick Foley was the Guest Referee, December 14, 2003, Def. Rob Van Dam), WWE Tag Team Champion (Rated RKO) 2009 Royal Rumple, Last eliminating Triple H.

CierraO'Shields (talk) 22:12, 14 June 2013 (UTC) Cierra

Partly done: Height and weight changed after verification. The rest not done: he has not won the WHC 9 times, he has won the WWE Championship 6 times, not 4 times, no sources provided for information, etc. Thanks, NiciVampireHeart 07:42, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Punt kick[edit]

The reason he doesn't use it anymore is because it was banned due to "concussion awareness".

http://www.cagesideseats.com/2012/5/23/3039384/randy-orton-says-his-patented-punt-is-banned-due-to-concussion

It also says chair shots to the head were banned for the same reason, though that's not Orton-related. Spartan198 (talk) 12:37, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 5 July 2013[edit]

Orton is of English, Scots-Irish, German, and Dutch desentant.

173.63.176.114 (talk) 02:45, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --ElHef (Meep?) 03:09, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Four WHC Reigns[edit]

On 02/07/14 episode of Raw, the WWE put up a graphic calling Orton a 3 time World Heavyweight Champion. To me, that's a sign that winning a unification match does not count as a reign for the dissolving title. I'm willing to do the leg work and change the ten to fifteen pages where it counts, but I don't feel like doing all that work just to get reverted. Any arguments? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.224.66.190 (talk) 22:14, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, forgot to log in first. Crispy385 (talk) 22:17, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

'Cowboy' Bob Orton[edit]

FYI; Mu husband remembers your Grandfather when he was growing up in Armourdale, Ks.

Kay Barker

kaybarker228@yahoo.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.143.53.123 (talk) 16:09, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2014[edit]

WWE World Heavyweight Champion (2013-2014) On July 14 at Money in the Bank, Orton defeated Christian, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Rob Van Dam, and Sheamus to win the WWE Championship Money in the Bank ladder match, thus earning him an opportunity to challenge for the WWE Championship at a time of his choosing within the next year.[247] On August 18 at SummerSlam, Orton turned heel after he cashed in his Money in the Bank contract on Daniel Bryan, who had just won the WWE Championship and had been subsequently attacked by special guest referee Triple H, who also counted the pinfall to give Orton his seventh WWE title.[248] The following night on Raw, Orton was endorsed as the "face of the company" by Vince McMahon and the newly formed Authority (Triple H and Stephanie McMahon).[249] On September 15 at Night of Champions, Orton lost WWE Championship back to Bryan,[250] however, Triple H stripped Bryan of the title the next night on Raw, due to a fast count by referee Scott Armstrong, but refused to give the championship back to Orton.[251] Orton and Bryan faced off for the vacant title on October 6 at WWE Battleground, but the match ended in a no contest after Big Show interfered and knocked out both men.[252] Orton once again challenged Bryan for the vacant championship at Hell in a Cell, where he was successful in regaining the WWE Championship after the special guest referee Shawn Michaels superkicked Bryan for attacking Triple H.[253] On November 24 at Survivor Series, after successfully defending the title against Big Show, Orton was confronted by World Heavyweight Champion and long-time rival John Cena.[254] The following night on Raw, Cena suggested that there should only be "one champion" in WWE, so Triple H stated there would be a unification match at the TLC pay-per-view.[255] On December 15, Orton defeated Cena at TLC to unify both titles, and becoming the first WWE World Heavyweight Champion as well as officially being recognized as the final World Heavyweight Champion.[256] Orton made his first successful title defense as WWE World Heavyweight Champion on January 26, 2014, at the Royal Rumble, defeating Cena in a rematch after interference by by The Wyatt Family.[257] On February 23 at Elimination Chamber, Orton defeated Cesaro, Christian, Daniel Bryan, John Cena, and Sheamus to retain his WWE World Heavyweight Championship and secure his position in the title bout at WrestleMania XXX against Royal Rumble winner Batista.[258] On April 6 at Wrestlemania XXX, the main event was changed to a triple threat match after Bryan defeated Triple H, and won the match after submitting Batista to end Orton's reign at 161 days.

Evolution Reunion (2014-Present) The following night on Raw, Orton and Batista were each denied a rematch for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship and instead were forced by The Authority to team together to face WWE Tag Team Champions The Usos for the title, despite their issues with one another. The title match ended in a double count-out after the two united and delivered a beat-down to the. On the April 14 edition of Raw, Batista, Triple H and Randy Orton came down to the ring to attack The Shield after their 11-on-3 handicap match, using the name and the theme of Evolution. 112.200.50.94 (talk) 05:17, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Please also provide reliable sources for any changes you request. --ElHef (Meep?) 13:22, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

A small change please[edit]

I am sure orton was the last holder of wwe championship before it became unified, not the world heaveyweight championship, because cena beat del rio for the world heaveyweight championship — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.16.82.32 (talk) 17:32, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Feud with Seth Rollins (2015-present)[edit]

On the march 9th edition of raw, Orton turned on Rollins by Flipping Rollins off and attacked Rollins after they lost a handicap match to roman reigns, thus remaining a Face. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharpshooter3000 (talkcontribs) 03:32, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2015[edit]

modify billed weight fron 245 to 250 lb., according to wwe.com. Also, Orton is presented from last Monday Night Raw as weighting 250lbs. 79.117.160.247 (talk) 20:54, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Amortias (T)(C) 00:48, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 May 2015[edit]

Randy Orton has always been referred to by the WWE as Randal Kenneth Orton not Randal Keith Orton.

154.20.74.235 (talk) 19:39, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.. I searched the entire WWE website [1] and could not find any mentions of "Kenneth" being his middle name, but I did find one article that refers to him as "Keith". Did you see a different mention of his middle name elsewhere? If so, list it here and reactivate this edit request. Altamel (talk) 00:17, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

grade 12 move[edit]

Tonight on the 27 July Raw I think it was Michael Cole who called a move he did against Kevin Owens a 'grade 12' or something sounding like it. He held him in his arms and them threw him overhead in a slam.

Not sure name of move but should we add this name to the wrestling section? Ranze (talk) 02:38, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Announcer tally[edit]

Tonight in a title match against Seth Rollins for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship you hear Michael Cole call him a 12-time WWE World Heavyweight Champion, and JBL said he could walk out a 13-time one if he wins.

Randy Orton#Championships and accomplishments says:

  • World Heavyweight Championship (4 times, final champion)
  • WWE (World Heavyweight) Championship (8 times)

This indicates that holding the WHW championship qualifies as having held it. Ranze (talk) 03:02, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

  1. ^ http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=63474
  2. ^ Gutwrench elevated neckbreaker