# Talk:Redditch

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## Redditch

Recently, the site seems to have taken on a very political slant with lots of details which regularly change. I don't believe that this is a good idea. Cabinscooter (talk) 08:05, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I have relocated my photograph of Church Green, as it has somehow appeared under the "Education" heading which seemed inappropriate. Cabinscooter (talk) 23:24, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I feel that to say that "Redditch is near Studley", although technically true is a little misleading. It is a bit like saying "Birmingham, near Redditch". I will amend this unless anyone objects. Cabinscooter 06:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Changed to "north of Studley". Even so no-one is going to find Redditch by finding Studley first. Maybe it should come out entirely. Fontles 11:26, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I am not at all sure about the derivation of the name "Moons Moat" being attributed to a 'Prehistoric Celtic tribe'. The more likely origin that I had heard was that a family named Moon had a large moated house on the site of the moat within the last hundred or so years. Does anyone have any confirmation of this ? Cabinscooter

The comment about the name moon is false. I am a residant of Exhall Close in Redditch and can see Moons Moat out of my Kitchen Window. (it is surrounded by houses!!!...) It is taught to children in the area that is was an Anglo Saxon settlement. Not Celtic

Yes, the landmark may well be Anglo Saxon (I'm still not convinced that it is that old) but what is the origin of the name "Moon" ? Cabinscooter (talk) 09:47, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

## Royal Enfield Motorcycles

Surely the old Royal Enfield buildings (and Enfield Estate) are in Hewell Road and Windsor Road not "At the start of Bromsgrove Road opposite the railway station" ? Cabinscooter (talk) 15:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I know nothing about the company, however the word "ENFIELD" is still just about legible on the roof of a building on Hewell Road. Not sure if this link will work but try this and then zoom in - North-facing bird's eye view of Hewell Road.
I have wondered about the rather scruffy building opposite the platform at the station (I guess this is what the author was talking about?). I guess it has an address on Edward Street. Behind The Wall Of Sleep (talk) 10:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I have studied the issue carefully and there is no evidence that the derelict buildings next to the station have anything to do with Royal Enfield. Some of the main factory buildings still survive in Hewell Road and there was an ancillary factory that also survives in Clive Road and another one in nearby Feckenham. In addition to that Royal Enfield had factories in Westwood, Wiltshire, Bradford-on-Avon and Edinburgh. I have several postings on my blog about this http://myroyalenfields.blogspot.com User talk:jpullin July 14th 2009 (while visiting Redditch!). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.189.171.131 (talk) 19:28, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

## Local Dialect

I grew up in Redditch, most of my family still live there and I've never heard any of the terms mentioned here used in the context suggested. NickBarlow 05:08, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I lived in Redditch for 20 years and have many friends and family still there. I've never heard any of these terms used like this either. I think it's a wind-up. Tadgers and peckers refer to male genitals; the swings and roundabouts thing is clearly a joke; and the bit about monkeys is very hard to take seriously.80.41.229.3 16:34, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I know this regards accent and not dialect, I'm also sure someone will disagree, but I've always noted three quarters of people you encounter around town pronounce the word "Bus" as "Buzz" or "Busses" as "Buzzes". Every time I suspect this has ceased, I hear it again. Someone please confirm it is not just me hearing this.

This is interesting, I originally grew up in part of the Black Country and my wife (a Brummie) is always pointing out to me that I pronounce bus as 'buzz' and busses as 'buzzes'. I have lived in Redditch for twenty-odd years and I did not pick this up in Redditch. Cabinscooter 20:03, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I also attribute the use of buzz for bus to Black Country origin (it turns up in [1]); its use in Redditch is interesting, maybe it reflects continuing integration of West Midlands accents generally. Or perhaps I have been too hasty to assign Redditch as "Brummie" rather than any other West Mids accent? Actually I think a section on "Local Dialect and Accent" would be quite good if we had material to fill it.--Fontles 09:43, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

On the same theme, I suspect that the proximity of Redditch to Bromsgrove which in turn is probably influenced by Stourbridge , may have an effect on the accent. Stourbridge has a very strong Black Country accent and dialect. Cabinscooter 07:56, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

I've taken out the spurious wikitable that appeared here, I guess someone was using Redditch as a sandbox. Fontles 11:37, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I would dispute that any "Soft Black Country" mode of speech, if it exists, has any connection with nearby Warwickshire. Perhaps the writer means Worcestershire/Stourbridge as mentioned below. If anything, the Redditch way of speaking is now more of a "Soft Brummie" accent or dialect. The Black Country dialect is quite distinct from Birmingham, changing quite rapidly within a couple of miles between say the Birmingham boundary with West Bromwich and Tipton or Wednesbury. Cabinscooter (talk) 06:35, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I hardly think that describing the Redditch accent as "Soft Brummie" requires any citation. Anyone that has lived or worked around the Midlands will tell you that the Redditch 'twang' is distinctly Brummie and not "Yam-Yam" or any other such as Worcester for example. Whether it is 'soft' or not is another matter. Cabinscooter (talk) 07:23, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I've re-located the fact tags in that section. I think the only part which isn't contentious is the claim that Redditch people sounds roughly like brummies. This long-lost local dialect, which was apparently in evidence yet at the same time somehow geographically isolated from the town - that needs a citation. Looking back at the edit history here, it came in with the nonsense about "tadgers" and "peckers" which is not exactly a fine scholarly pedigree... Behind The Wall Of Sleep (talk) 22:32, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I know I'm risking a huge wiki-faux-pas here but I've put the text in this section into chronological order. It was getting hard to follow. If anyone is really bothered by all means put it back. Behind The Wall Of Sleep (talk) 22:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

## Batchley Cheese

I moved to Redditch in 1975 when I was just six years old. My father and my sister still live there, as do several of my old school friends. None of us have ever heard of Batchley Cheese. Can someone confirm the existence of this local speciality?

Yep, I've heard of it out of Wikipedia - only throiugh folklore though, and the only thing I can find about it is here:

I think someone is having a laugh at your expense. The address for Batchley Cheese in Redditch is the former Bridley Moor School - just check the phone number and postcode. The whole thing is one big joke and it appears to have fooled people (including many journalists) writing about Redditch - be wary of anyone who claims Redditch is famous for its cheese.

I'm sorry to say I've taken out the Batchley Cheese thing as I added the history section today. I thought it was hilarious, but it's far too unlikely to be true to go in an encyclopedia without any evidence for it. I look forward to being proved wrong & making myself a Batchley Cheese sandwich! Fontles 00:15, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

## Monkeys

The part about the monkeys living in the palm trees sounds rather unlikely. I stand to be corrected of course - but I can't see how this would work practically. Does anyone have any references to back this up? I would love to believe it btw. Fontles 12:13, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I did a bit of anecdotal research into this one recently, and found several people who remember the Kingfisher Centre opening, and none who remember the monkeys. What I did find though, was claims that "Monkeys in the Palm Trees" is a long standing Redditch in-joke, and has been the subject of numerous local media April Fools stories over the years. On this basis, and the fact that no-one wanted to defend it, I'm going to remove this bit from the article. Fontles 22:00, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

oddly enough this came up while talking to a friend of my father's just after Christmas, who either worked for or with the Development Corporation as it then was. His recollection is that the centre management was planning to exhibit some monkeys as a marketing gag, but in some kind of enclosure (wire mesh cage or similar) around one or several of the trees, and that the Health and Safety people got wind of the plan and quashed it pretty quick. Unfortunately that's only anecdotal too I'm afraid. WarwickshireWarrior 14:41, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

This was indeed an April Fool joke done by the centre management team at the time (I work in the centre now) who claimed to local press that on the 1st April they would be releasing live monkeys into the palm trees. It was a wind up, but apparently hundreds turned out.

## Teenage pregnancies

The claim about teenage pregnancies has been in the article for a long time now. Are there any statistics to back this up? Anecdotally it's believable, but it's pretty emotive to some people and also consistent with the "Redditch sense of humour" we've seen in some of the recent vandalism. Any ideas? Fontles 12:32, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

## The Bus Station

As much as we all enjoy looking at the "Classic" Redditch bus station (1996 vintage), it now obviously looks completely different. I wonder if it would be possible for someone to provide a photo of how that area looks right now. I would do it myself, were it not for the fact I am away from the area at present. Kalgari 20:02, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Why not have both images of the bus station (before and after) ? Cabinscooter 20:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I think the "Classic" bus station meets the Wikipedia Notability criteria to much a greater extent than the current one. I mean, no offence to the architect or staff of the current station but the classic one was genuinely visually striking and formed a local landmark - in addition to lighthearted notability from the postcard and so on. The new one is really just a bus station, and not particularly photogenic or even easy to capture effectively in a picture. I would support a picture of the new one in Wikimedia Commons though, we have far too few pictures of Redditch in total. Love the designaiton as "Classic" btw. --Fontles 09:23, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Why have the main picture for a twon be its bus station???--77.98.32.211 (talk) 22:15, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

## New Town

interesting the 14th July, 1964 London Gazette notes that the Redditch New Town included apart from Redditch urban district itself part of Bromsgrove Rural District, and part of Alcester Rural District, over in Warwickshire. There was apparently a transfer of part of Sambourne parish to Redditch in 1965 (of 28 acres) and a more substantial transfer of part of Studley parish in 1969 (247 acres). 213.107.21.212 17:14, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Every time I look at this page, someone has added an external link that's not really to do with Redditch, but is a site that just happens to be based in Redditch.

In other words... "Redditch Stamp Collecting Club" is not really about Redditch, is it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.139.152.224 (talk) 19:36, 2 February 2007 (UTC).

## Sport content

I've tidied up some of the sport (particularly football-related) content and given it a section of its own, as See Also wasn't really the right heading. I think some input from someone with sport knowledge would be valuable. In particular what about

• this Phil Green guy who I think is a Villa reserve?
• churchill united which must be a typo for Church Hill United - no problem with this but where do we draw the line? Loads of pub teams could potentially appear on the list.

Fontles 11:37, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

OK so the roll call of Redditch footballers continues with Ben Underhill. Does anyone have a case for the notability of Church Hill United or its players, or Ben Underhill? I get zero hits on google for "Athletico Grant C", or even "Athletico Grant". Behind The Wall Of Sleep 18:36, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

## General issues

I think to call the train service regular is humorous, I would favour a word such as 'occasional' or 'sporadic' to highlight it's infrequency and common cancellation.

The train service is every half-hour and does run until 11pm-ish - whatever its problems, by the standards of our railways these days this is a comparatively frequent service for a town the size of Redditch. Maybe "regular" is a bad choice of word! But it is an economically significant service to the town, making it feasible to commute to central Birmingham by public transport. Behind The Wall Of Sleep 12:11, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Also I think stating that Bridley Moor was 'academically successful' is laughable

I've no idea whether Bridley Moor was 'academically successful' or not (though that isn't consistent with the image it had around the town). Really I think this comment either should be removed, or needs to be reworded such that it can be objectively demonstrated, and supported by a citation. Behind The Wall Of Sleep 12:11, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

John cooper clarke poem, burnley, refers to reddish, which is in stockport, not redditch — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.124.68.79 (talk) 00:05, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

I would agree that the poem makes more sense referring to Reddish, however it is transcribed here [2] as "Redditch". Listening to it here on YouTube I'd say it's ambiguous. Behind The Wall Of Sleep (talk) 10:11, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Climate data seems off. Less than half the rainfall of Birmingham? The cite doesnt support that data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:644:100:C6E5:14BC:F041:BA9F:38D3 (talk) 22:00, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

## Nightclubs discussion

An anonymous user has been burning the midnight oil documenting the Redditch nightlife, which I think is worth a mention. I have to question whether the current volume of text discussing cheese nights etc. is really in proportion to Redditch's limited notability as a night spot (let's be honest, it's eclipsed by Birmingham in a big way). Also the claims about region-wide notability for Chicago Rock and the pub crawl (which I've never even heard of) amongst others, need some support (if indeed they warrant inclusion in an encyclopaedia at all...). Behind The Wall Of Sleep 12:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I've tidied up a few bits in the nightlife section which had been getting worse, apparently including advertising for drinks promos at specific venues(!) Sadly the whole section is still full of subjective unsourced trivia. I'd love to see it turned into something encyclopaedic, but I think in the absence of that prospect the next step will be more ruthless pruning... Behind The Wall Of Sleep 10:04, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Redditch is a well known nightspot. My children and I live in Lichfield and they have friends in Redditch. They are always there with my sister, (who lives there). The Golden Mile, (the Headless Cross Pub Crawl), is well known. It is supposed to be unbeatable. But it is known. Also Cheese nights at fuse are also well known as thei featured in Cheltenham and Gloucester also. They also have their own web site. Chicago Rock is a well known national chain that centers in the Midlands. The Redditch one is the main one. I know all this as I am hopiong to purchase a pub in redditch and have done my research into the nightlife of the town.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Reddidan (talkcontribs) 04:29, 10 August 2007.

Hi Reddidan and welcome to Wikipedia. If you can share your research with us that would help a lot, particularly on Redditch nightlife but anything on Redditch would be useful. Check out WP:V for guidance on Wikipedia's verifiability criteria and also WP:CITE for tips on how to document your sources. I think the main things we need are for notability of Redditch as a nightlife centre outside of Worcestershire (of course people come from Beoley, but do they come from Wolverhampton?); notability of the Headless Cross Run; record that the Redditch branch of Chicago Rock is the HQ/the biggest/does the most trade/whatever. Finally, if you can follow your comments on talk pages with four twiddles/tildas (~) then everyone can tell which words are yours. Behind The Wall Of Sleep 11:57, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

## Education Section

I've edited the education section, making two primary changes:

• The discussion of middle schools made it sound like it was the only place in Britain where kids go to Middle School, which isn't true as there are about 400 Middle Schools in England. The claim about the demise of Bridley Moor being all down to Middle Schools certainly needs a source to back it up - I gathered that numbers had been falling both there and at the Abbey for years and hence they were merged.
• It looked in danger of becoming a "my school's got more fancy facilities than your school" section. I've listed (all?) four high schools and removed some of the (somewhat promotional style) lists of facilities. I have to say I think it's questionable whether the schools need naming at all unless they are of some specific notability beyond people who's kids go there.

I will also add New College if I get time as it surely deserves a mention.

Behind The Wall Of Sleep 16:34, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I've deleted another new section about Bridley Moor, how it was the best and why it shouldn't have been closed. These things keep coming back but I honestly don't think they are in proportion in an article on the town as a whole. Nothing against BM but if the school was notable why not have a page about it and link from here? -- Behind The Wall Of Sleep (talk) 18:30, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

There is now a central page for lists of schools in Worcestershire. I think this makes more sense than listing schools on the town page unless they are substantially notable features of the town, so I've replaced the list with a link. Behind The Wall Of Sleep (talk) 12:20, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

## Jacqui Smith

Hi Reddidan here lol Just recently moved to Redditch and its a lovely town. The golden Mile is lethal to all drinkers weather seasoned or not. However the reason I edit this page today is different. I was wondering wether a section on Jacqui Smith could be added. I received my first copy of one of the two redditch papers today. Despite Ms Smiths claims crime in the uk has fallen the town of redditch has been bypassed. The town according to the Redditch Advertiser is wrife with theft, assault, murder, Anti Social behavior ect. It seems that ms Smith is neglecting her constituancy greatly. If our primeminister calls a snap election Redditch will be one area to watch. The constituancy is a marginal one after the changes to its borders recently with a greater number on Tory supporters coming under it. Ms Smith has to prove herself. Please can anyone comment about the adding of a section on her. Although all criticisms must be kept at a low the women is after all the first female home secretary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.198.247.228 (talk) 21:23, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi again Reddidan. Glad to hear you are enjoying Redditch. Jacqui Smith has her own page, and that is the appropriate place to discuss media commentary on her policies and their effectiveness. I have to say that as one of our most prominent politicians, her page is awfully short, and I would be delighted to see it expanded, and maybe even talk about her relationship with constituency a bit too! After all, HS or not, representing Redditch is her job, and what she is elected to do. Like anything else here though, criticism of a living individual will need to be well researched and sourced (I recommend checking out WP:BLP first); if it's in any way politically contentious, extra care is essential and sources should be top quality (check out WP:V#Sources) otherwise it could degenerate into a slanging match between supporters of political parties, and is likely to get a hostile reception from some of the more hard-line encyclopaedists around. Behind The Wall Of Sleep 09:52, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
I should have also said, the Redditch Parliamentary Constituency also has its own page, and that's a good place for discussing aspects about parliamentary representation, rather than about the town itself. Hope this helps! Behind The Wall Of Sleep 09:59, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

## Notable Residents

Why on earth is Scouse Freddie Starr listed on here ? Ok, so there may well be someone living in Matchborough with that name but the link takes you to the (In)famous impressionist/singer/comedian. If it is a joke, it should be deleted. Cabinscooter (talk) 07:51, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Do we know for sure that Mrs Smith is a resident of Redditch ? Other than any official address as it is her constituency. Cabinscooter (talk) 10:01, 8 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cabinscooter (talkcontribs) 09:51, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Surprisingly perhaps it seems like she is, at least according to her official web site. I've added a link to the page. She's from Malvern though. Behind The Wall Of Sleep (talk) 18:57, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I personally know where she (or at least her family) lives. However, I don't think I'll publish this potentially sensitive information on the web.--EvilFred (talk) 23:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I wasn't for a minute suggesting that Jacqui Smith's private address be published but so many people make their fame and fortune in Redditch but then a Redditch address is not good enough for them and reside in places perceived as more 'up market' such as Alcester or Stratford. Sorry to be cynical about this and I acknowledge the information from EvilFred Cabinscooter (talk) 07:33, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Does anybody know Rik Mayall's connection with Redditch? His pages say he lived at Droitwich Spa, but maybe he schooled in Redditch? 51kwad (talk) 15:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Quoting TV.com "When he was three, Mayall and his parents moved to Redditch, Worcestershire, where he spent the rest of his childhood." Don't know how accurate that is, took it from a quick Google Search -- NRTurner (talk) 16:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Well I reckon if it's worth asking, it's worth citing. I'd often doubted his Redditch connection but the TV.com link was enough to convince me, so I've added it to the article. If anyone actually queries it, then we could look for a more robust source. Behind The Wall Of Sleep (talk) 11:14, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Ah, now I've read the other article and now I see what you mean. I've left a note on Talk:Rik Mayall, as there must be Mayall experts around who can resolve this for us. King's School Worcester, though, is definitely in Worcester and not Droitwich or Redditch, and they apparently teach from age 2 up.Behind The Wall Of Sleep (talk) 12:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Surely you cannot omit Heavyweight Boxer Jimmy Moran from this list. Commonwealth gold medalist at the Edinburgh games 1986. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.153.23.200 (talkcontribs) 12:54, 27 February 2008

I've formatted it now that you have added it, but we really need a source that verifies this. I wasn't able to find one myself. -- NRTurner (talk) 15:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Jimmy Moran was definitely from Redditch, or more specifically Batchley, what about checking the census, also if a fleeting appearance on Big Brother deems you as as celebrity then why not ex-husband Stacy as a professional footballer and ex-student of Bridley Moor (Deportedwolf (talk) 16:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC))

## Area of the Kingfisher Centre

There's something of a conflict in here somewhere. Over at List of shopping centres in the United Kingdom by size it's listed at 92930m3. This is consistent with the content of the Prudential presentation (although that ranks them by some property other than size, I guess turnover or value?). If this is accurate, it would rank 17th in the current list. There's little discussion going on there though. Behind The Wall Of Sleep (talk) 10:19, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

There is no longer a branch of Argos in the Kingfisher Shopping Centre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.40.252.238 (talk) 19:29, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

## The nearby prison/s

This has been a bit of a local hot topic, with regard to the naming controversy. I've tried to make the text in the article a bit more obvious. I think what we're trying to say is:

• it's a collection of three existing prisons undergoing an administrative reorganisation. No new buildings, etc.
• it was going to be called "HMP Redditch" but plans were changed for whatever reason and now it will be called "HMP Hewell"
• all three prisons are actually at Hewell Grange, and not in Redditch at all.

Hence I altered the opening text about "designation" as HMP Redditch, as this seems to be historical. But I have to ask, as the prison isn't named after Redditch (and now has no plans to name itself so) and isn't in Redditch, and isn't a significant factor in life, economy or culture in the town, is this really still appropriate to the wp page on Redditch? It doesn't even seem to be that notable outside of the prison business, as it's a reorg, not actually a new prison. Behind The Wall Of Sleep (talk) 11:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Plans were changed to rename the town from HMP Redditch to HMP Hewell because of the outcry from the town. It was felt that having a prison with the same name of the town would dampen the desirity of redditch!!!!-Reddidan

## Merger proposal

Headless Cross, Crabbs Cross and Astwood Bank are three districts of Redditch and not separate villages. Perhaps there could be a page created for the Districts of Redditch, but a page for each is just a waste and not very informative. If there are any more Redditch districts with their own article, please put merger tags. Thanks --EvilFred (talk) 16:54, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I think a list of districts of Redditch would be an excellent addition to this article. I don't agree that we should delete Headless Cross etc simply because they're stubs now. I don't know much about these three districts but I guess they're moderately well established places with their own little culture and identity. They might develop into half-decent articles over time - I say we should give them a chance. This approach has had varying degrees of success elsewhere - for example check out Cheltenham and Gloucester. Cheltenham even has a neat little template for navigating the districts. This is beyond my wiki skills! but the towns concerned are not wildly different in scale to Redditch. Behind The Wall Of Sleep (talk) 23:45, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
I agree. Some districts like Moon's Moat have some history behind them, and while they are part of Redditch and therefore not really deserving of separate articles, they may be of interest to those reading about the town. -- NRTurner (talk) 09:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
All should be merged into a single "Districts..." article with redirects. they are really not big or seperate enough to warrant seperate articles. I went to school with people from all 3, worked in one, and lived in another and could walk between any of them in half an hour. Even the "districts" article will only be 4 or 5 sentences at the moment - that is the place to let any growth happen (the districts can list their councilors and school cachment area i guess for a start). I doubt any will grow much, but if they do, they can then be spun out to a larger article.
The Cheltenem model seems massively complicated for little reward. A single article with sections for each district would be far more easily navigable. And section redirects would make the info just as easy to find as it is nowYobmod (talk) 16:13, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I was bold and merged them here:Districts of Redditch. As you can see, even the merged article is a stub. No need to worry about splitting off districts for a long time i think. I made a Moons Moat redirect too - guess they should all be made.Yobmod (talk) 16:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

In reference to the comment about Headless Cross, Crabbs Cross and Astwood Bank... Technically they are villages on the outside of Redditch. Each one has its own Church and Green. Although they are still also clast as Districts of Redditch -Reddidan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.206.120.120 (talk) 16:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Headless Cross and Crabbs Cross are well within Redditch, not on the outside. You can't leave the town from either district without going through Walkwood, Webheath, Hunt End, Callow Hill or Astwood Bank. --EvilFred (talk) 15:33, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

## Districts article

Please contribute to the Districts of Redditch article. I've listed all I can think of, but I'm sure I've missed some out.
I'm counting a district as being wherever there's those weird blue street-name signs.
The article is lacking in details for each district, I guess a general description of the district and where it's situated would suffice as a minimum.
--EvilFred (talk) 18:11, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

## Error in calculating pop density

I have removed the "auto" causing this. ${\displaystyle \alpha }$ 11:06, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

## Appearance in a best seller

I could not resist adding this reference, but am unsure why O'Farrell picked on Redditch. Does he have a connection with the town? ${\displaystyle \alpha }$ 11:07, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Surely a better picture of Redditch could be found than a bus station, is this intended as some sort of joke? Gem (talk) 00:52, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

i have removed the bus staion picture from the top because it is innapropriate for that location and is shown again later in the article. Gem (talk) 00:56, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

OK, I have moved my photo of Church Green to the head of the page as it is more appropriate than being in the "Education" section" !! Cabinscooter (talk) 08:44, 26 December 2008 (UTC) This is an overspill town of Birmingham. I'm surprised that hasn't been added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.168.67.33 (talk) 21:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

## editprotected request

my father (James Moran) used to be on this page as he won a commonwealth gold medal for england in the heavyweight boxing division, he is also the only man to win two a.b.a titles consecutively... yet he seems to have been removed from this page this year.... it is a proud honour for my family to see my father recognised fo his sporting talent..... yet he has been removed as if he has passed on and is forgotten, this is a big insult to my family and i plead with you to reconcile this unprovoked mis-justice :p — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.235.54 (talkcontribs) 23:05, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

The article is Unprotected so you could add the information back yourself - however, you do want to cite a reliable source for the statement. Avicennasis @ 09:27, 4 Elul 5771 / 09:27, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

## Article for town and an article for the district

Currently this article covers both the town and the district. Would it be a good idea to have seperate articles for both the town and the district. I have done a little research (looked at an OS map on Bing and UK Urban Areas article) and it seems that Feckenham as well as a few hamlets (consisting of a couple of farms and such) are the only parts of the district not physically part of the town. So there is a case of the district being almost just the town (almost 98% population wise seeing as Redditch population from UK Urban areas divided by the borough's population is 0.98). Most other towns have seperate district and town articles unless the boundaries are exactly the same which isnt the case for Redditch. So yeah should there be two articles one for the district and another for the town. Eopsid (talk) 14:52, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Good Afternoon, I agree with the above coment greatly... the main issue for me is the council wards section.... most of the councillors listed are no longer serving!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.120.94.197 (talk) 14:39, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Agree that the district/borough and the town are not synonymous (unlike Worcester, for example): about half of the district is rural countryside with some villages and hamlets. I have started User:Dukwon/Redditch Borough using {{infobox settlement}}, which should cover the local government stuff in the same vein as Bromsgrove District. Once/if this page is created, I suggest using {{infobox UK place}} in the article for the town, which I have started as User:Dukwon/Redditch infobox. — Dukwon (talk) 15:15, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
I'd tentatively oppose this. Its clear that the borough of Redditch is significantly larger than the urban area of Redditch and, for example, Feckenham has a distinct rural identity. However splitting the two, means this article would be about the town only - while the district is handled in the extra article. That introduces major problems with sourcing as you need to know which Redditch is meant before you can use the information. That in turn makes it much harder to write a good quality article.
For instance, if Redditch Council says "there are 50 primary schools in Redditch" that's a typical encyclopedic fact which should be covered. However is that 50 in the district or the town? If its the district, the town's figure cannot be calculated without original research (do you exclude one in Feckenham? How about one in Astwood Bank?). It is far easier to write about Redditch without the fork, as then you can simply source the statement "Foo is in Redditch" with the source "X says foo is in Redditch".
If you look elsewhere, you can see the risks. For instance with Leeds and City of Leeds, the two concepts are much more distinct than is the case for Redditch. My analysis indicates a good chunk of the article about that is supposed to be about the urban area inappropriately uses sources that describe the district.
A sub-article to cover the current local government arrangements would certainly be possible. I'd also point out Bromsgrove District is not the best model to follow, as its barely more than a stub. A more developed district article would be a better guide.--Nilfanion (talk) 11:53, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Also tentatively oppose: if 98% of the population of the borough is within the urban area, then two are so much the one and the same that having separate articles would leave the casual reader puzzled as to why there's two articles. Having said this the idea does have merit so keep the idea open. Malevan (talk) 19:44, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Agree, I have expanded it a bit, we have Commons:Category:Borough of Redditch which uses the unparished area of Redditch its self. I would agree that they need to be carefully formatted, the town article should still contain info for the district. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:11, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

## Tidy up 2013

I've had a bit of a tidy-up.

• Detailed coverage of individual Borough councillors and their wards and opponents, and indeed an ex-mayor, is just far too low level and frankly boring for the general reader. I've moved this to a dedicated page on the Borough Council. We already have individual pages for elections for example so I think this is in proportion.
• I removed the content about the prison. It's not in Redditch, and all the text was saying that at some time prior to 2008 there was some discussion about renaming it "HMP Prison", though this never happened. I think this is lost in the noise now and not of interest any more.
• We had an "economy" section which mentioned only a local publishing firm too obscure to have its own page on Wikipedia. Economically significant companies are already covered under history - if we get more than this an "economy" section might be worthwhile
• I flagged the "town nickname" as requiring a citation. Yes, I've heard it said but only as a joke. I think this needs a citation (and not a blog or Facebook...)
• Updated the population to be consistent with other parts of this page
• Moved the obscure comment about a heading in a book to the popular culture section.
• Removed the long-standing text indicating how to find Redditch from Studley. If you're in Studley, really you know where Redditch is, so I referred to Evesham instead which new visitors have some chance of finding on a map.

A bit WP:BOLD I suppose but it was looking quite tatty and I think the "multiple issues" template was justified! Behind The Wall Of Sleep (talk) 09:29, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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## Semi-protected edit request on 13 September 2017

Governance The parliamentary constituency of Redditch is represented by Rachel Maclean of the Conservatives, who stood in the 2017 elections in place of Karen Lumley MP .[10]

Districts of Redditch Redditch participates in two Local Enterprise Partnerships, the Worcestershire LEP as well the Greater Birmingham and Solihull LEP.

Mayor The mayor is Jenny Wheeler and not Joe Baker Redditchbc (talk) 11:01, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. LinguistunEinsuno 11:24, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Updated mayor and MP — dukwon (talk) (contribs) 12:13, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

## Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2017

Referring to Redditch as 'the Ditch' is not a thing and it has never been and should be removed from the article. Very few people here, if any, actually call it that. I have lived in the area for my entire life and I have never heard it used once and neither have any of my friends or family. Darkuodai90 (talk) 17:23, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Not done: You might want to ready this essay. The statement that Redditch is referred to as "the Ditch" is cited to this local newspaper article so it is verifiable. Your personal experience is not relevant unless you can find a source, and finding a source for a negative such as "no-one calls it that" is almost impossible when there is at least one source that does, in fact, call it that. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:57, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
I don't put much weight in that article as a source: all (except perhaps one) of the mentions of 'The Ditch' seem to be talking about a volunteer group called that. I can't find any other articles that use that phrase in for anything except literal ditches: [3], also the other local paper turns up no uses of that phrase: [4]. At the very least, I don't think this sentence belongs in the article lead. — dukwon (talk) (contribs) 19:13, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
The newspaper article does not at any point assert that Redditch is known as The Ditch. So the citation does not support this assertion, which therefore can and should be removed from the page. Malevan (talk) 16:07, 30 December 2017 (UTC) Done

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## Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2018

one of its three campuses is in central Redditch; the other two are in Bromsgrove and Worcester. should be become. one of its four campuses is in central Redditch; the other three are in Bromsgrove, Worcester and Malvern. source = https://www.howcollege.ac.uk/about/campuses/malvern/ Lemon Mcgee (talk) 00:33, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Done Gulumeemee (talk) 04:00, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

## Argos update

with stores like Debenhams, Primark, Next plc, Marks and Spencers, Argos, Boots UK, H&M, The Perfume Shop and Warren James Jewellers.

should be

with stores like Debenhams, Primark, Next plc, Marks and Spencers, The Range, Boots, H&M, The Perfume Shop and Warren James Jewellers.

Argos has been closed down. The Lemon (talk) 02:51, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 00:38, 21 January 2018 (UTC)