Talk:Rwanda women's national football team

Rwanda women's national football team was one of the Sports and recreation good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
June 9, 2012	Good article nominee	Listed
July 9, 2022	Good article reassessment	Delisted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on April 24, 2012.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that while the Rwanda women's national football team has not played a FIFA-recognised match, a professional women's league in the country has attracted women from Uganda?

Current status: Delisted good article

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DYK nomination

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Rwanda women's national football team/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Shearonink (talk · contribs) 03:01, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am planning on reviewing this article within the next few days for WP:GA status. Shearonink (talk) 03:01, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on article

The 2007 CECAFA Women's Championship, which is mentioned a number of times in this article as having taken place, was actually cancelled. To date, all proposed CECAFA Women's Championships have eventually been cancelled or postponed. Therefore, it would make sense to make a note about this in the article, as it looks as if the tournament took place, but results are not given (obviously, because it never happened). Mcruic (talk) 14:52, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It appears someone has added a note. Not me, although I will help out. Oakley77 (talk) 00:25, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That should have been fixed. I need to find Shearon and ask for her to actually review the article or get some one to step in and take over the review. --LauraHale (talk) 01:48, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Putting back into queue, review clearly abandoned. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 12:31, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: GreatOrangePumpkin (talk · contribs) 08:39, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good to see some women's sport.

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
"Rwanda women's national football team is a national team from Rwanda with their major competition to date being the inaugural Council for East and Central Africa Football Associations Women's Challenge Cup held in Zanzibar in October 2007. " - How about "The Rwanda women's national football team has to date only competed in one major tournament, the inaugural Women's Challenge Cup held in Zanzibar in October 2007" or something like this. There should be a "the" ahead the national team, else it does not make sense. And the "Central Africa Football Associations Women's" bit is confusing and sloppy.

"there was no FIFA recognised senior women's team." - should there be a hyphen next to FIFA?

"Not existing as recently as 2006, in 2009 the Rwanda women's national under-20 team competed in the African Women U-20 World Cup 2010 Qualifying tournament." - the "in 2009" seems out of place; perhaps move it ahead the end of record

"The development of women's football vital to the development of a national team faces regional African related issues though there are successes, including the creation of a professional national women's league which has attracted players from neighboring Uganda and having the country's first female professional football coach." - several issues here: 1) The sentence is overall too long 2) I don't quite understand what you mean by "vital" 3) repetition of "development" 4) There should be a comma ahead "though there are successes" 5) There should be a hyphen after "African" 6) "from neighboring Uganda " from the 7) the last phrase is also odd. This sentence requires a complete rewording

"In 1985, almost no country in the world had a women's national football team,[1] and this was true for Rwanda" - then why you say it was true for Rwanda? Almost no? How many had a women's national football team in 1985?

There are too many grammar mistakes, repetitions and odd wordings, so I place this article on hold until it is copyedited.
I asked Hawkeye7 to fix some of the problems mentioned to improve the prose and worked on fixing those myself. I think all your concerns have now been addressed. --LauraHale (talk) 09:47, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, the prose looks better, but still needs some work:
"Rwanda did not have U-17 or U-20 national team in 2006,[2] by a Rwanda women's national under-20 team existed in 2009 and competed in the African Women U-20 World Cup 2010 Qualifying tournament."
Fixed. --LauraHale (talk) 01:20, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Grace Nyinawumuntu, who became the first female referee at the senior level in Rwanda in 2004, became the first woman to coach a professional team in the country in 2009, when she coached a professional women's side, and led them to a league championship.[20] " - Grace... became the first female referee at the senior level... and the first woman to coach and to bring her team into the league championships... ~~, when she coached a professional women's side,~~
Reworded to make more clear. --LauraHale (talk) 01:40, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What is a "FIFA FUTURO III "?
A course offered by FIFA for football officials. No more information explaining this is available in the source.--LauraHale (talk) 01:16, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"no women's football seminar held in the countrym" -typo
Fixed. --LauraHale (talk) 01:16, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What is a "FIFA MA"?
A course offered by FIFA for football officials. No more information explaining this is available in the source. --LauraHale (talk) 01:16, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"for women/youth football" - youth or girls?
Fixed. --LauraHale (talk) 01:38, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

", amongst other things," this should be moved to the end of the sentence
Fixed. --LauraHale (talk) 01:16, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
Ref 2 has no publisher
Fixed. --LauraHale (talk) 01:16, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 6; redirects to [1] which states "Headline information for this article could not be found."
Fixed. --LauraHale (talk) 01:16, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 7: either a spaced n-dash or an unspaced m-dash, but not a spaced m-dash
No idea what this really is or how to fix. Please help? --LauraHale (talk) 01:27, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 8 ditto
No idea what this really is or how to fix. Please help? --LauraHale (talk) 01:27, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

FIFA.com or FIFA?
Fixed. --LauraHale (talk) 01:16, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 12: Randell2?
Fixed. --LauraHale (talk) 01:36, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 19: title is "Lack of funds holding back women’s football league "
Fixed. --LauraHale (talk) 01:36, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: ~~per above. On hold for 7 days.~~ Nice article :) Also, excellent work on all those African teams!--GoP _T ^C _N 09:22, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Pass/Fail:

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GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Rwanda women's national football team/GA3. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

I will be reassessing this article to determine whether it still meets the Good Article criteria. Any user is encouraged to assist in improving the article to keep it up to GA standards. Thanks. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 04:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	See issues below.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Lists and sections are not supposed to be empty, of course, and there are many examples of this. Part of the "Records" section is empty and orange-tagged as a result. There is also a lot of information missing from both of the lists in the "Players" section. I am also not convinced of the need for results tables for tournaments such as the World Cup, Olympics, and African Games given Rwanda has never qualified for any of them. The lead section could also be expanded by a few more sentences at least.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	Refs 4, 7, 12, 14, and 16 do not work, Ref 17 is very strangely formatted and makes it hard to tell if the desired information is actually there, Ref 24 gives a 404 error, Ref 28 is badly formatted
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
	2c. it contains no original research.	"Home stadium", "Record per opponent", "Records", and "Competitive record" all have no citations.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Team logo is fair use.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	Team logo is definitely relevant.
	7. Overall assessment.

Issues with criterion 1a

Lead and infobox

"It had to date been scheduled to compete in one major tournament, the inaugural Women's Challenge Cup held in Zanzibar in October 2007, but the event was ultimately canceled." → commas around "to date"
"It has finally debuted in February 2014 against Kenya" → "The team made its debut in February 2014 against Kenya."
"Biggest win" portion of the infobox ("Rwanda 2-0 Djibouti") should replace hyphen with an endash

History

First paragraph does not have anything to do specifically with Rwanda
"Inside Rwanda, the first women's football programme was developed in 2000" → "The first women's football programme in Rwanda was developed in 2000"
"with most of its funding coming from FIFA" → this is also stated in the first paragraph; additionally the link does not need to be repeated
"The lack of high-level football opportunities in Uganda" → "Uganda" can be linked to either Uganda or Football in Uganda
"there was no FIFA FUTURO III regional course for women's coaching" → what is the FIFA FUTURO III course, specifically, and why is it special or necessary in particular?
There is no specific description of what the "FIFA MA" course is.
"The competition was to be funded by Confederation of African Football" → since the abbreviation "CAF" is used to refer to the entity later in the paragraph and article, define it here by saying "...Confederation of African Football (CAF)..."
"The Council of East and Central Africa Football Associations secretary..." → this organization has already been named and an abbreviation has been given, so use the abbreviation (CECAFA)
"However, a senior national team played its first official match on 16 February 2014" → "a" national team sounds awkward compared to "the" national team
"She-Amavubi debuted on 16 January 2014" → given in the lead as "The She-Amavubi", with an article, and in italics
"after finishing 2–2 on aggregate" → link aggregate score
"Their third official match was disputed" → why was it disputed?
"They disputed the 2014 African Women's Championship second qualification round with Nigeria on 24 May 2014, losing 4–1" → same question as above
"the She-Amavubi lost by a crushing 8–0 defeat" → needs italics per the lead, and "The" is capitalized
"Rwanda beat Tanzania (the eventual champions) 1–0 but finished last on 4 points from their 4 games." → recommend changing "4" to "four" per MOS:SPELL09
"Rwanda's women national football - the 'She-Wasps' eliminated Kenya in the first round of the 2014 African Women's Championship (AWC)" → beginning of this sentence is worded very awkwardly

Results and fixtures

"as well as any future matches that have been scheduled" → incorrect as there are no future matches listed

Record per opponent

"The following table shows Rwanda' all-time official international record per opponent" → should be "Rwanda's"

Coaching staff

Are the technical director and team manager spots vacant? If so that should be noted rather than leaving them blank
Year ranges in the "Manager history" section should use en-dashes instead of hyphens per MOS:DATERANGE

Players

"This is the provisional Squad named in May 2022 For 2022 CECAFA Women's Championship" → a few issues: (1) why is it a provisional squad if the tournament is in the past? (2) "squad" should not be capitalized. (3) "for" should not be capitalized. (4) The addition of the word "the" is needed before "2022 CECAFA Women's Championship".

Records

"Active players in bold, statistics correct as of 2020" → statistics should be updated as of 2022; also "as of [year]" does not need to be bolded

Competitive record

Quite the bizarre idea to include the redlinked "Rwanda at the FIFA Women's World Cup" when they've never been, I think.

Overall review conclusion

WP:GAR states that An individual assessment may be closed after seven days of no activity. As there has been no activity on this review page for seven days, ~~and the edits and updates to the article aren't consistent enough or close enough to the comments left above to warrant "activity" on the review in my opinion,~~ I am closing the review. My conclusion is that the article fails GA criteria 1a, 1b, 2a, and 2c at least, and therefore will be delisted. If improvements are made in the future, and the article is brought up to par, it can be renominated for GA. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:21, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have struck a portion of the above comment that does not apply as I misread the dates of the latest edits; I thought they were in July whereas they were actually in June. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:26, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]