Talk:Satoru Sayama

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- Changed reference to Super Tiger 2 to just Super Tiger; Super Tiger 2 is a student of Sayama. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:58, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Satoru SayamaTiger Mask I[edit]


Move to "Tiger Mask I"? RandySavageFTW (talk) 05:00, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

  • Oppose - Wrestled under real name. D.M.N. (talk) 15:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose Darrenhusted (talk) 15:10, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Satoru Sayama (born November 24, 1957) is a Japanese professional wrestler, best known as the original Tiger Mask. RandySavageFTW (talk) 16:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

And? Read the next sentence which lists six other names he has wrestled under. Darrenhusted (talk) 09:07, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
And? It says best known as the original Tiger Mask. WP:COMMONNAME. RandySavageFTW (talk) 21:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
And? Has wrestled under his own name. Darrenhusted (talk) 08:15, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
You'd probally support if I didn't ask for the move. Him wrestling under his own name means nothing. RandySavageFTW (talk) 15:23, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I really don't know what you are implying. I opposed and you seemed to be looking for an explanation. It has been given. Darrenhusted (talk) 15:42, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
It didn't make any sense, though. RandySavageFTW (talk) 16:02, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
You know what, you put it up, I voted, move on. Darrenhusted (talk) 08:18, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

No. Need explanation. RandySavageFTW (talk) 17:16, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

  • Oppose - he has wrestled under various names and mostly his real name, so it is best to leave it under his real name.SRX 21:57, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

no RandySavageFTW (talk) 17:19, 9 September 2008 (UTC) Not done--SRX 02:25, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

MMA Career[edit]

As a mixed-martial arts pioneer, SS deserves a section on his MMA career including MMA fighters whom he trained. I'd add it but I don't know so much. Austinmayor (talk) 19:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Please clear this up for the casual fan[edit]

Is there a difference between the Jr. Heavyweight titles of the NWA and WWF in Japan and Mexico? They have separate entries. Are they two different belts (the Japanese and the Mexican?) regardless of the NWA/WWF designation?

I really can't say for sure. However, consider that at one time, 3 large, significant (for their time) wrestling promotions in the United States (Charlotte, Detroit and San Francisco) simultaneously recognized an NWA United States Heavyweight Champion and the NWA World Tag Team Championship. This occurred during an era when wrestling was only "connected" in Japan (specifically in terms of their mainstream media and network television exposure). Since promoters were free to take liberties elsewhere, particularly with more obscure titles (at least in the United States) such as lighter-weight titles, it's likely that any distinction or need thereof would be strictly for pedants. Another theory, which seems to stir enough shit every time I mention it, is that editors are merely parroting what their preferred sources state in one article after another, without any real discernment of what the information is or means. Usually it has the effect of mirroring the WWE historical revisionist version of pro wrestling.

Also, how much of this article is written in "kayfabe"? Some of it seems to be fanciful. Jackbox1971 (talk) 02:41, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Albeit currently devoid of any real content, methinks Wikipedia:Fan analysis sums up the problem perfectly. I've noticed numerous wrestler biographies lately which have been written in the same fashion, almost to the point where they really need to be checked for copyright violation, especially with any web pages cited in the articles themselves.RadioKAOS (talk) 03:36, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

brutality with students[edit]

Could someone comment on this video of him beating students bloody with a stick? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:07, 5 January 2012 (UTC)