Talk:Shanthi Kalathil

A fact from Shanthi Kalathil appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 24 January 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Shanthi Kalathil believes Radio Free Asia "filled a critical role in combating Chinese disinformation"?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 01:43, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shanthi Kalathil, NSC Coordinator

... that former senior Biden administration human rights official Shanthi Kalathil (pictured) believes Radio Free Asia "filled a critical role in combating Chinese disinformation"? Source: https://www.rfa.org/about/releases/rfa-welcomes-new-members-to-its-board
- ALT1: ... that former senior Biden administration human rights official Shanthi Kalathil (pictured) believes the Chinese government uses "its unique carrots" as well as sticks to "create a foundation for its influence"? Source: https://www.congress.gov/115/meeting/house/108056/witnesses/HHRG-115-FA05-Wstate-KalathilS-20180321.pdf
- Reviewed:

Created by W9793 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:46, 14 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Shanthi Kalathil; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

First, the good: this nom does not require a QPQ (W9793, this will be your fifth if approved, so further noms will require QPQs). The article is long enough, new enough, and referenced. The hooks are interesting enough and referenced. However, Earwig returned an incredibly high match rate of 56.6%. Part of this is because of the numerous unavoidable titles she has held, so we can ignore that. However, much of this because of extensive quotes by her as well as some lifted text that must be fixed. While the quotes are generally in the public domain, on the role of information and technology in international affairs appears to lift from this. While this can be resolved using paraphrasing, I think it speaks to a neutrality issue in this article. I can find no reliable sources that outright criticize her, but it should be reliable sources adding commentary on her and her comments rather than extended quotations. Plenty of reliable sources exist on her, so I expect that the necessary changes can be made without the size of the article taking a hit. I'd ask that these fixes be done within a week, with a ping to notify me when they're done. ~ Pbritti (talk) 19:58, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Seeing no improvements forthcoming, I made a paraphrase change myself. I think this article is fine to run as a DYK, but it can be improved. Thank you for the nomination! ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:01, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't there be something remarkable about DYK articles and hooks? This is just a case of 'US government official approves of US government outlet's opposing an adversary of the US government'. In other news, the sky is blue. It would have been somewhat remarkable and unusual if she didn't approve of it. This is akin to 'Did you know that China's foreign minister approves of Xinhua news agency's messaging?' The only point of promoting this to the front page - with either hook - seems to be to covertly present the standard US government position as objectively correct.--62.73.69.121 (talk) 12:45, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]