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[edit]Sidney Edgerton (August 17, 1818 – July 19, 1900) was born a sickly child that was not expected to survive very long. He would survive his sickly childhood and, eventually, becaume a politician, lawyer, judge and teacher from Ohio. He served during the American Civil War, as a Squirrel Hunter. During this time, Edgerton served as a U.S. Congressman. In 1863, Abraham Lincoln appointed him the first Chief justice of the Idaho Territorial Court. Edgerton lobbied for the creation of separate territories, out of the Idaho Territory, and in 1864, Abraham Lincoln, appointed Edgerton as the first Territorial Governor of Montana. He also served in the infamous Montana Vigilantes. After his time in the Western United States, Edgerton returned to Ohio. At his return, he restarted his old law practice.
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Sidney Edgerton (August 17, 1818 – July 19, 1900) was an American Abolitionist, a member of the United States House of Representatives, and a territorial judge and governor. He served in the Union Army during the American Civil War as a Squirrel Hunter, and held the rank of Colonel.
In 1848, he helped to found the Free Soil party, and in 1856, attended the first Republican Convention. In 1858, he was elected to Congress
Abraham Lincoln appointed him as the first Chief justice of the Idaho Territorial Court. While there, Edgerton recognized the importance of the local gold fields for the Union cause. He was instrumental in persuading Abraham Lincoln and the Congress to create the Montana and Dakota territories. In 1864, Abraham Lincoln appointed him as the first Territorial Governor of Montana. During his term as Territorial Governor, he was also a member of the infamous Montana Vigilantes, reputedly among its founders. In 1865, he left the Montana Territory, and returned to Ohio, where he practiced law until his death.
Does this work better? You've got a lot of repetition, and his most notable achievement is not that he was a sickly child and survived, but several of the other "jobs". Auntieruth55 (talk) 22:22, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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[edit]- This review is transcluded from Talk:Sidney Edgerton/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: –– Jezhotwells (talk) 02:10, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
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[edit]- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose): b (MoS):
- He then began commencing practice, in Akron, Ohio. "began commencing"?
- He married Mary Wright (1827 – 1885) on May 18, 1848, but Mary almost ended the relationship, because of Edgerton's religious views. A bit unclear, did she consider ending the relationship after they were married?
- One incident that did happen was when Edgerton fell from one of the wagons, and was almost crushed by one of the wheels. "One incident that did happen", implies taht there others that did not happen.
- The message was welcome news to the group, but knew that to get to Lewiston, before the snows, would be difficult. "but knew", who?
- After crossing, they met Sheriff Henry Plummer. What is the significance of this?
- he Edgerton's then bought a home at a Sheriff's sale for $400. The one room home became the first Montana Governor's Residence. Confusing, surely Edgerton was Chief Justice of the Territory of Idaho?
- This whole section is not very well written. Choppy, focussing on intricate detail. No coherent flow or explanation of why events are significant.
- Edgerton then left for the west, unsure of whether or not he would have a new position when he arrived, but on May 23, 1864, while on his way home, Mary Edgerton had a baby girl. non sequitur
- After seeing his skills in the Territory of Idaho, President Abraham Lincoln appointed Edgerton as the first Territorial Governor of Montana What skills were these?
- After the elections of 1865, Democrats took power in the House, and took the Delegate seat in the House of Representatives. While the Republicans took the Council. Surely this should be one sentence?
- The revenues being received were not enough to pay for expenses, and Edgerton himself gave large sums of his own money to the territory This begs the question. Where did his money come from?
- During this time, Edgerton was in the Washington D.C. " the Washington D.C."?
- Despite remaining governor, until January 13, 1866, Edgerton did not return to Montana for 25 years Another non sequitur. Despite remaining Governor for another year, he didn't return for 25 years? needs some explanation.
- Overall, this is rather poorly written, lacking any cohesive narrative flow, with seemingly random statements jammed in together. Please enlist the help of a copy-editor familiar with plain English usage.
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- Territory of Idaho Rather too much detail about this wandering in the wilderness.
- It strikes me on erading through some ofthe sources that much is missed in this account. the political differences between Edgerton and Plummmer are hardly noted. The Montana Vigilantes appear to have been a political force as well as unofficial justice. There is a lot of detail about a journey across the Rockies but little about what political, judicial and gubernatorial actions Edgerton undertook.
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':There is plenty of material here for an interesting article about the subject, but a the moment it hasn't been very well used. I suggest that the nominator reads all the sources thoroughly and puts together an article about the subject that covers thoroughly in a WP:SUMMARY style te majr aspects of his career. I shall not be listing this at this time. I suggest that when the article has been reworked, it is taken to WP:Peer review for preliminary help in making this into a good article. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 21:40, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
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