Talk:Sinai Peninsula

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Exodus from Egypt[edit]

What are people's opinions regarding a possible inclusion of the Exodus narrative in regards to Sinai? Valley2city 06:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Definitely. Amoruso 12:40, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Deleted external links[edit]

External link or links have recently been deleted by User:Calton as "horrible Tripod pages which add little information, are full of ads, and fail WP:EL standards." No better external links were substituted. Readers may like to judge these deleted links for themselves, by opening Page history. --Wetman 14:58, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Ancient Agricultural People in the Sinai[edit]

Why is there no mention of the fact that the entire drainage system from the south-central highlands to the Mediterranean, and the plains of the northern Negev and highlands of the western Negev was once farmland? You seem to think that the Sinai has always been sparsely populated, whereas it was in truth once home to what must have been many tens of thousands, or even hundreds of thousands.

Is Sinai part of Africa or Asia[edit]

This article and several others dont clarify this question. The "southwest asia" article has a map with Sinai colored-in as part of southwest Asia, and says Egypt is not considered a south-west asian country. Although like Turkey, there is no reason why a country can't be in two continents. My opinion ( and it is only that ) is that Sinai is more geologically attached to Asia than Africa. The Suez canal would be an appropriate boundary. The "Eilat" article says that town is on the boundary of Asia and Africa which presumably implies that the Israel-Egypt border is the boundary. Someone with more expertise than me needs to clarify this. Eregli bob 09:09, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I am no expert in the subject. But the article about Sinai in the Hebrew Wikipedia explicitly says that Sinai is located in south-west Asia. No reference is given, though. Ehudzel (talk) 09:34, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
I came to this article specifically to answer the question: Asia or Africa? It would be wonderful for someone to help answer this question. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:54, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Broken Link[edit]

"Voyages...Visages" - Another way of travelling and seeing I keep on timing out on this, does it work for anyone else? Horus (talk) 21:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

It works but you didn't miss anything - just a link to a website with some amateurish pics of some kids & people that someone took in his various travels. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:29, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Geography and Geology?[edit]

Where are the geographical features of this land, i.e. formation, composition, geological history... Only history and tourist info? Please expand this article, that's really relevant information! Al-Iskandar Tzaraath (talk) 09:09, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree. It appears to be a land bridge between Africa and Eurasia. This must have (had) important consequences concerning migration patterns and speciation. (talk) 19:42, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


But this article actually EXCLUDES any mention of why the name Sinai is used, and any significance for the Jews! Antisemitism in Wikipedia is alive an well (talk) 11:22, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Making accusations of 'Anti-semitism' merely because an article does not contain a specific piece of information you feel should be included is both irresponsible and insulting. There is a Jewish Wikiproject which looks over this article (the link is above). Perhaps you should raise the matter on their project page. Manning (talk) 03:31, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

NPOV dispute[edit]

There's an NPOV dispute going on between an IP and myself. Here's a diff. I regard the changes being made as slanted towards a overly Pro-Egyptian bias. Other editor's input sought. Manning (talk) 00:02, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree that the changes proposed by the IP are not NPOV. I don't object to "liberate", but terms like "Israeli intransigence" and "Egypt's repeated overtures of peace" (instead of "proposals") are not neutral. Also, reference to Palestine and Palestinian territories is anachronistic. Further, changing from U.S. to British spelling conventions is against the Wikipedia MOS. Wilson44691 (talk) 13:24, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

The IP is persisting with the changes, despite my attempt to start discussion here. I'm at the edge of a 3RR violation, so I'm dropping out. I've logged this at AN/I. Manning (talk) 01:24, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

I can live with the recent changes for now. Next time such changes should be done in stages and discussed in the talk pages when contentious. Manning was right to revert when there was no discussion. The Straits of Tiran, by the way, were never entirely Egyptian "territorial waters". Wilson44691 (talk)
Strangely, all IP's is located in England (At least their exchanges are). Btw, this was taken to ANI. And I'm surprised this page wasn't locked, too --Nutthida (talk) 23:14, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Added my 2 cents. Deleted "liberated" which is unnecessary (doesn't add anything) and the supposed motivations for the Yom Kippur War (why was it labeled the "October War"? The mainstream namefor the war is the Yom Kippur War) are unnecessary as well, especially given that one of Egypt's stated aims was the destruction of Israel, or to use the Arab regime's language the liberation of all of "Palestine". Also, Syria was instrumental in launching the war as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:03, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Liberate is the correct term as the territoriy in question is and was sovereign Egyptian territory, and recognised as such by the United Nations. Use of this term does not indicate support or condemnation for one belligerant or another. The claim that "one of Egypt's stated aims was the destruction of Israel" is incorrect in this instance, and is contrary to the fact that prior to the war the Egyptian government under Sadat had requested direct U.S. assistance in brokering a peace treaty between Egypt and Israel based on 'land for peace'. The stated goal of "destruction" is really from the Nasser era, not from the period of Sadat's presidency. Sadat's stated goal was the liberation of Sinai. Secondly, reference to October War is appropriate in this context as this is the term used in the state of which the territory that is the subject of the article is a component part (namely Egypt), and is a known alternative name for the conflict in English. (talk) 13:05, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

It looks like the IP editor from the discussion above ended up rewriting quite a lot of the history section of article. The result is downright propagandist. Heptor talk 17:35, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Edits about the conflicts[edit]

On 7 December, Yambaram made an edit about the conflicts between Arabs and Israelis. There has been an edit war since then instead of having an discussion. Gareth Griffith-Jones have reverted edits of those changing to the older, stable version. I see that as I am writing this, he has reverted my edit instead of talking.

It's a known controversy. Yambaram know very well about that. He went to Six-Day War#Preemptive strike v. unjustified attack where he copied the Israeli view and ignoring the other and changed the article from Israel invaded and occupied Sinai during the Suez Crisis (known in Egypt as the Tripartite Aggression) of 1956, and during the Six Day War of 1967 to Israel had to take a pre-emptive strike against Egypt in the face of a planned invasion,[2] later on capturing Sinai during the Suez Crisis (known in Egypt as the Tripartite Aggression) of 1956, and during the Six Day War of 1967. First of all, the source used (BBC) is about the 1967 war. It has of course nothing to do with the 1956 war. Secondly, it is written that "Israel claimed it was a pre-emptive strike in the face of a planned invasion" so to present it as a fact is wrong.

The second part of the edit was changing it from "Subsequent to Egyptian actions, Israel attacked Egypt, Syria, and Jordan, starting the Six-Day War" to "Subsequent to Egyptian actions, Israel attacked Egypt, and was then attacked by Syria and Jordan, which started the Six-Day War". This is not a neutral view. If you look at Six-Day War, it is stated "The war began on June 5 with Israel launching surprise strikes against Egyptian air-fields in response to the mobilisation of Egyptian forces on the Israeli border" in the lead and that it's an accurate description. --IRISZOOM (talk) 21:19, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

For some days, the article has had the earlier wording. I hope it will stay neutral. --IRISZOOM (talk) 20:18, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Does the Sinai mountain range extend into Eilat?[edit]

Does the Sinai mountain range extend into Eilat? I am not speaking of the political "Sinai" mountain range but the physical, geographical mountain range. Looking at the map it seems decidedly so, except I can find no reference concerning this anywhere.CWatchman (talk) 12:42, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Large Gap in History[edit]

One would get the impression here that nothing happened here between 1313BC and 1260AD. No visits by Helena, mother of Constantine? Nothing happened here for hundreds of years? (talk) 20:01, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

The notion that Mt. Sinai is located in the Sinai Peninsula was propogated by Helena, the mother of Constantine, who is hardly a reliable and unbiased source. There is hard evidence (photographs)[1] of Mt. Sinai being in Arabia (which is exactly where the apostle Paul said it was)[2]. The photographs not only show a scorched mountaintop [Exodus 19] but also show the corrall where the sacrificial animals were kept prior to their being offered according to G-d's instructions. Daniel Baggett (talk) 19:39, 9 March 2016 (UTC)


At the moment the article makes it appear as though Egyptian actions in the Sinai in 1967 were merely an attempt to militarise the area. In fact, they were a response to at least two events, an Israeli attack on an Egyptian military base in which Egyptian troops died and a false warning passed to Egypt by the Soviet Union that Israel was about to attack Syria.     ←   ZScarpia   11:09, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Remained a part of Egypt?[edit]

The second paragraph starts with "The Sinai Peninsula has remained a part of Egypt from the First Dynasty of ancient Egypt (c. 3100 BC) until the 21st century" then goes on to document a number of times when it was not part of Egypt. Should the first sentence be less adamant? ˥ Ǝ Ʉ H Ɔ I Ɯ (talk) 22:25, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Actually, it doesn't mention several times it wasn't. It mentions that when Egypt was under foreign occupation, Sinai was included in that; it then says that Israel occupied it in the 20th century. I think that the only change necessary is to fix the 21st to 20th. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:51, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

I would like to add to this point by asking: what is meant by "Egypt" in the sentence in question? Since it can't mean an Egyptian political power does it mean that the geography we now call Egypt has always been defined in a way that includes the Sinai peninsula? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:07, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

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  2. ^ Gal. 4:25