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- 1 Promo singles
- 2 Naming convention
- 3 Ordering of Formats
- 4 b/w & c/w
- 5 Cassette single: Third opinion from interested parties
- 6 Requested move
- 7 History
- 8 Relationship to albums
- 9 single/song
- 10 tracks
- 11 Additional citations
- 12 Sentence needs work, starting point for a solution provided
- 13 The current meaning of being a "single"
- 14 Incomplete and unsupported
For the UK at least, this section is inaccurate - promos are usually released to individuals and organisations deemed 'influential' by the labels/PR companies in order to be played on the radio, DJs to include the song in nightclub playlists, journalists to review the release, etc. To mention just rap artists and Keane is misleading.
Where does the naming convention for music and films come from to capitalize all words but a, the and a few other words? --Abdull 19:32, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- Presumably it's an extension of the style commonly used in English for titles of books, articles, etc. According to Capitalization#Headings_and_publication_titles, it came about as an old form of emphasis for titles, "similar to the more modern practice of using a larger or boldface font for titles." If you want more info than that, you'd probably be better off asking at Talk:Capitalization--Severinus 05:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Ordering of Formats
I have re-ordered the text regarding the different formats. It's now in chronological order (in terms of when the general public began to embrace them). I've also re-worded it - it was vinyl that gave us the terms "A-side" and "B-side", so why explain that in the "CD" section? --ThomasBisset 00:53, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
b/w & c/w
Should there be a mention/explanation of the "b/w" (backed with) and the less common "c/w" (coupled or combined with) notation used when listing songs on a single? I get the feeling they're only ever used when referring to vinyl singles, but I'm not at all in the know and was wondering if such info should go in the general part of the article. Thoughts? --Severinus 06:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Cassette single: Third opinion from interested parties
I've added a couple of pars to the beginning of the history section -- I'd appreciate any comments on this.
The beginning of the history of the single claims that discs started overtaking cylinders in the late 19th century. Tim Brooks book "The Columbia Master Book Discography, Volume 1, published by Greenwood Press, has at the bottom of page 14 a list of the number of cylinders and discs produced(in millions)in the United States. In 1909 18.6 million cylinders and 8.6 million discs were produced nationwide. The next listing is from 1914 where 3.9 million cylinders are said to have been produced and 23.3 million discs. So, in manufacturing, discs didn't "take over" any earlier then 1910. Johnbasalla (talk) 03:32, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Relationship to albums
The article emphasis the single's role as usually being extracted from a current or upcoming album to promote the album. Is this true? Surely singles were invented before albums and continued to have an independent existence. In the 50s and 60s, a lot of people (certainly in the UK) bought singles, but couldn't afford albums, so they represented a different market. Bands like The Beatles released different material for the singles market than they put on albums. Radio DJs for many years only played singles. Bluewave (talk) 18:03, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
When I am writing an article, how do I decipher whether it is a single or just a song. ex: (infobox single or infobox song) Can any song be considered a single? Song example: Song For A Winter's Night; it wasn't included in the singles section of Gordon Lightfoot's discography, so I didn't count it as a single. However, I have see other discographies where all thir songs seem to be included in the singles section of the discography. Ex: Ernest Tubb discography. Daniel Christensen (talk) 05:44, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- singles are a type of release. if a song hasn't been released as (part of) a single it shouldn't be called one. riffic (talk) 14:06, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
- In music, a single or record single is a type of release, typically a short recording of one or more separate tracks.
- Changing that to "one or two" is too explicit, as a single (see Maxi single) could theoretically contain more than 2 tracks. riffic (talk) 03:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Sentence needs work, starting point for a solution provided
"These factors, combined with the 10-inch songwriters and performers increasingly tailored their output to fit the new medium."
That sentence doesn't make much sense to me.. it doesn't seem to me to be grammatically correct and I'm not exactly sure what meaning it was trying to convey, although I have guesses. Also, I notice the next sentence launches into talking about "The 3 minute single". I think it should be mentioned somewhere before that sentence that a single was 3 minutes, rather than assuming the reader already understood that as common knowledge. Perhaps that sentence could be reworked into something like: "The rotation speed, combined with a 10-inch disc, resulted in a playback time of 3 minutes. As a result, songwriters and performers increasingly tailored their output to fit the new medium." (Note: I don't know if the playback time was exactly 3 minutes or only approximately 3 minutes, I'm just going off what the article already says.) --188.8.131.52 (talk) 15:11, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
The current meaning of being a "single"
As best I can tell, since digital downloads have became prevalent, every track on an album has become a "single", in the sense of being available in the marketplace as a separate published item. And I assume that radio stations (whether radio wave based or "Internet radio" based) can pick any published track they want to pick when choosing what to play – they aren't forced to choose the "single", are they? Yet, I still see references to which songs are considered a "single" on newly released albums. (Probably, I should put quote marks around "album" too.) Does it really mean anything anymore for a song to be a "single"? If so, exactly what does it mean? The article does not seem to provide this information. It seems to talk mostly about vinyl records, which is not how most people get their music anymore. Is a "single" something that is always made available on vinyl? Is a "single" something that is always made available as a separate published item on a physical format (e.g., on vinyl or CD format)? What the heck is a "single"? Does the concept still really exist? —BarrelProof (talk) 19:06, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
- Singles are released in digital format as well. Look through the iTunes catalog of an artist. If they have released a song as an actual single, it will be listed in their album catalog.
- Another variant to singles is songs that are released for streaming or free download, but are not listed as stand-alone singles by vendors such as iTunes or Amazon. I used to think that these were singles, and the are often called singles by the media, but I've learned through some of my edits being reverted that these releases are not technically singles. Would these types of releases be buzz singles?--¿3family6 contribs 23:02, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
Incomplete and unsupported
This article has some problems. For example: The introduction indicates that singles are primarily related to albums as hooks etc. I don't know if this is correct or not, but in the early sixties, I was pretty much unaware of albums but was inundated with singles on 45s. Were most of the hits back then really even on albums at the time they came out? More recently, as commented by some-one else on this comment page, online singles are frequently unrelated to other songs: just singles. A second issue is that I cannot find any-thing about one-side shellac disks. Some-time in the early 20th century, these were common - maybe the first shellac singles were all one-sided. Some-one knowledgeable in the history of recording should fix up this page. Kdammers (talk) 16:46, 31 January 2016 (UTC)