Talk:Statue of Louis Agassiz
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Proposed merge
[edit]I think this article plus the articles on Alexander von Humboldt (Stanford University), Johannes Gutenberg (Stanford University), Benjamin Franklin (Stanford University) be merged either into the Main Quad (Stanford University), into a new article on public art at Stanford University, or into a new article on these four sculptures. I note that the original artist for these sculptures is not that well known nor is the artist of the two replacement copies. These sculptures on the front of the Stanford main quad are usually viewed as a unit. Thoughts? --Erp (talk) 05:42, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Erp: What do you have in mind for the title of an article about these four statues? ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:20, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- Personally I favor a more general Stanford art article (e.g., Stanford University public art). For an individual article for these four sculptures we might go with the artist name Antonio Frilli for instance "Antonio Frilli works (Stanford University)", but, I'm open to suggestions. It would likely include some other sculptures at Stanford such as the Athena in the Museum front hall and Faith and Menander in front of the museum. I'm almost certain Agassi and Humboldt are also Frilli sculptures btw a brochure on some of the outside art https://web.stanford.edu/dept/suma/view/documents/OutdoorSculpture_Broch_2011.pdf Also for Agassiz in particular https://quake06.stanford.edu/centennial/tour/stop3.html--Erp (talk) 07:05, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Erp: This brochure link is fantastic, thanks for sharing. I'm not really sure the articles about individual artworks should be merged, but I'm not opposed to the creation of List of public art at Stanford University, per List of public art at Indiana University – Purdue University Indianapolis. (You'll notice even this list links to articles about individual artworks.) I think this list would be helpful, regardless of whether or not the statue articles are merged. ---Another Believer (Talk) 11:28, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- Don't see a need to merge, stand alone pages are fine for each sculpture and this one includes the iconic image from the 1906 earthquake. The opening image could be tossed at some point though, because without an electronic zoom-adaptor the descriptor makes it seem like the sculpture may be the Two Wastebaskets (One More Than Needed) on the left. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:17, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- For sure, the current infobox image should be replaced as soon as someone takes a better photo. I assumed a bad illustration of the statue in its current location was better than none at all. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:22, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- I can go take a picture if you need a better one. Dicklyon (talk) 03:22, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- I substituted my 2019 photo. It's not great, but you can see Louis. Dicklyon (talk) 00:20, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- Dicklyon, Wonderful, thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:51, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- For sure, the current infobox image should be replaced as soon as someone takes a better photo. I assumed a bad illustration of the statue in its current location was better than none at all. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:22, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- Don't see a need to merge, stand alone pages are fine for each sculpture and this one includes the iconic image from the 1906 earthquake. The opening image could be tossed at some point though, because without an electronic zoom-adaptor the descriptor makes it seem like the sculpture may be the Two Wastebaskets (One More Than Needed) on the left. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:17, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Erp: This brochure link is fantastic, thanks for sharing. I'm not really sure the articles about individual artworks should be merged, but I'm not opposed to the creation of List of public art at Stanford University, per List of public art at Indiana University – Purdue University Indianapolis. (You'll notice even this list links to articles about individual artworks.) I think this list would be helpful, regardless of whether or not the statue articles are merged. ---Another Believer (Talk) 11:28, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- Personally I favor a more general Stanford art article (e.g., Stanford University public art). For an individual article for these four sculptures we might go with the artist name Antonio Frilli for instance "Antonio Frilli works (Stanford University)", but, I'm open to suggestions. It would likely include some other sculptures at Stanford such as the Athena in the Museum front hall and Faith and Menander in front of the museum. I'm almost certain Agassi and Humboldt are also Frilli sculptures btw a brochure on some of the outside art https://web.stanford.edu/dept/suma/view/documents/OutdoorSculpture_Broch_2011.pdf Also for Agassiz in particular https://quake06.stanford.edu/centennial/tour/stop3.html--Erp (talk) 07:05, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Moved
[edit]See the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Article_titles#Article_names_of_statues_of_people. Dicklyon (talk) 03:22, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Dicklyon: Thanks. Glad to see this finally being discussed, and hopefully we'll have some better conventions emerge for consistency. ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:23, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- My impression is that "Statue of X" is already the dominant convention; just need to document it and work toward consistency. Dicklyon (talk) 03:29, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- Dicklyon, Yup, I've submitted a move request at Talk:Benjamin Franklin (Stanford University) to get the ball rolling on consistency... ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:16, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- My impression is that "Statue of X" is already the dominant convention; just need to document it and work toward consistency. Dicklyon (talk) 03:29, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
There's a new open RFC on such naming issues at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Visual_arts#Naming_conventions_for_public_statues. Dicklyon (talk) 06:34, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Where is Agassiz?
[edit]So it looks like Stanford removed the statue from the exterior of the building, but planned to display it elsewhere. https://news.stanford.edu/2020/10/07/jordan-agassiz/. I haven't found anything saying where the statue is currently. On display? In storage? I'm mildly curious about this old racist's statue. MsHeltonReads (talk) 21:34, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
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