Talk:Stephen Graham
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'Personal Life'
[edit]It's interesting that some editors thought it notable to include the section about depression in the personal life section. Why is that so important to include? It's not a front and center issue in his life, he is an accomplished actor with incredible range. Allow the man some dignity, he opened up in an interview once. You don't have to make it define him in his biography. This goes for any bio on a living person on Wikipedia, where some editor adds personal details like "is an atheist" or about their mental health struggles in order make themselves feel better about their own choices etc. Show more responsibility. Gnostc (talk) 08:10, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
More to the point it's a lazy addition. The sourcing is from schlock shock clickbait sources, that got the original quotes from this interview. There are even more interviews with Stephen Graham, where he goes into far more detail of his life than his depression and suicide attempt and so on. The editors of this page did not watch those interviews, they referred to secondary sources that grabbed the most shocking soundbites from the extended interview. Either paint him in a fair light, or don't have that section in this article at all. I think what I am saying is fair. Gnostc (talk) 14:53, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
- Cool. Improve it. Don't just remove it because you don't like it. BOVINEBOY2008 16:51, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
I think the page is perfect as it is, right now. Could stay this way for 10 years, just adding to the filmography, etc. No other improvement necessary, barring major personal events in this man's life. An example for many other similar wiki pages.. Gnostc (talk) 08:51, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Not that talking about depression and suicide is necessarily undignified, he did it with dignity. Repeating it out of its context is undignified. So the original schlock article erred, and then wikipedia authors copied that info without an eye for their own responsibility as the keepers of a public historical record. Dont have to add info to pages without an eye for how it all goes together, like some kind of information dump. I have the same problem with tons of wiki pages, rendering a lot of the site unreadable. Gnostc (talk) 08:55, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
'Holding Copies of the Sun'
[edit]Can't see that this comment has any relevancy to this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.4.178.109 (talk) 10:30, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Drugs seller
[edit]Didn't he play this dealer along with some other guy in some MTV series? It was set in some apartment and the other guy's father was a wealthy man etc. 81.68.255.36 (talk) 12:22, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Lapland
[edit]I could be wrong but I think he plays a character in a BBC1 Christmas drama called Lapland? Would anyone like to confirm? Kalshibly (talk) 22:19, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Australian Hospital Visit
[edit]Along with Depp, Graham visited a hospital in character as Scrum in 2015. Be sad to overlook him since Depp's better known. Stephen's a fine actor and backed Depp up well! - 203.134.150.207 (talk) 01:47, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Mother/Father
[edit]This information may be reversed. In a radio interview (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0004m82), Stephen stated that his mother was a social worker, and his father was a head paediatric nurse.
Requested move 21 June 2016
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Move as unopposed. Re-purpose the original dab redirect. (non-admin closure) — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 00:20, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
– The actor has received over 95% of pageviews in the last 3 months.[1] Unreal7 (talk) 23:35, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
- Support. Page views over the past 12 months [2] suggest that the actor is the clear primary topic. PC78 (talk) 00:03, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
County should be updated for Kirkby from Lancashire to Merseyside
[edit]The county mentioned on the 'Born' section of the article for Kirkby should be changed to Merseyside in my opinion as Kirkby is no longer classed as being in Lancashire. Xboxsponge15 (talk) 00:36, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- Graham was born in 1973, when Kirkby was in Lancashire. For better or worse, that's the convention used across all bio articles. There are arguments on both sides, but that's the way it currently is. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:55, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- Also, Template:Infobox_person#TemplateData recommends to "Use the name of the birthplace at the time of birth" for the
birth_place
parameter. A more popular example would be Václav_Havel who was born in Czechoslovakia, a country that no longer exists. -- Evilninja (talk) 01:05, 22 December 2019 (UTC)- More popular?? Václav wasn't in Gangs of New York, was he! Martinevans123 (talk) 10:14, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- LOL :) I just wanted to cite another example of a person who was born in a place that changed names. Yes, the popularity can indeed be disputed here :-D -- Evilninja (talk) 10:17, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- But then, I'm not sure Stephen has ever been in The Garden Party! Martinevans123 (talk) 10:24, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- LOL :) I just wanted to cite another example of a person who was born in a place that changed names. Yes, the popularity can indeed be disputed here :-D -- Evilninja (talk) 10:17, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- More popular?? Václav wasn't in Gangs of New York, was he! Martinevans123 (talk) 10:14, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
Regions
[edit]"Graham has often portrayed characters from different British, Irish and American regions. He has played characters who are Cockney, Welsh, Geordie, Scouse and Scottish"
Scotland and Wales are not "regions". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a01:4c8:1408:6434:1:2:5332:611e (talk • contribs) 13:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- How else would you phrase it? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:18, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Time
[edit]Honestly, Time is one of the most lauded pieces of drama in the UK for years - how has this not even been mentioned here yet? I'm no editor, but surely this deserves at least a sentence? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.4.36.99 (talk • contribs) 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- It's now linked in the lead section. But I agree it should also appear in the main body, perhaps supported by some positive reviews. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:19, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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