Talk:Stimulant

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  • A reminder that, on this talk page, #Benzylpiperazine and #Arecoline have both been requested to be included. They aren't currently included in the article — should they be?

* Add bath salts (drug) to article. Obviously appropriate, but where to place? Linked to it under the heading "Abuse". Since it's a practice, it's only tangentially related.

  • General re-organization of this beast called "notable stimulants". I tried looking to Depressants as an example, but it's even worse than our article...


ADHD section stimulants[edit]

The drug Propylhexadrine is accidentally listed as an ADHD drug. It is not used, nor approved by the FDA for such use. A quick peek at the wikipedia page confirms this by its' absence - it is a weight loss drug. It may belong on the stimulant page: just not under ADHD. I'm leaving this to you experts, as I've exhausted my knowledge in this post. :-D Thanks. Ukrpickaxe (talk) 17:41, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. A quick check says you're completely right — my mistake, actually.
To anyone interested, I plan to re-write the section anyway. Stand-alone lists are sort of frowned-upon; and I mean to make this into prose. meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 20:11, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the fix! Sadly, your other improvement, which very helpfully groups all the ADHD meds together rather than dangling half of them under amphetamines, has undermined my current argument on the ADHD talk page, lol. For some reason the Ruling Committee refuses to itemize stimulants (the treatment of choice) but loves non-stimulants. Come over and help me out, I can't convince them lol! Ukrpickaxe (talk) 22:05, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Methamphetamine as neurotoxin[edit]

The article calls meth a "neurotoxin and" cns stimulant. This is technically correct, I guess, since, as mentioned in the article cited, meth is neurotoxic. Pretty much all stimulants that act on norepinephrine and dopamine are neurotoxic in high enough doses over long enough periods of time. It's silly to include that neurotoxicity in the drug's definition. I'm rewriting. Quodfui (talk) 20:32, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

I don't have time to deal with this - there are some good sources there that I don't want to remove, but as that section is set up right now it has a pov beyond that expressed in its sources. This article seems to have devolved into a discussion of stimulants as street drugs even though there are a variety of legitimate uses for which they are prescribed. Quodfui (talk) 20:46, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Methamphetamine happens to possess uniquely individual properties among which include its comparative degree of neuronal toxicity even compared to other hard or "amphetamine-type" stimulants. This is simply the truth - the DEA can go fly a kite as far as I'm concerned, but they are veracious in stating to the public methamphetamine is uniquely toxic to the human brain system. I pass no judgment on Desoxyn users (usage thereof may be had without serious critical toxicity if intelligently done) but yeah, meth is heavy, hard stuff. We must report reality. Only cocaine and meth rival each other in brain damage potential in the stimulant group. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:B34B:A940:F051:AB0F:3A76:DE48 (talk) 04:27, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

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MDMA is not a stimulant and should not be listed in this article as one[edit]

MDMA is a psychedelic which means it is between stimulant and hallucinogen. It's inclusion in the stimulants list is inappropriate. If we are including MDMA as a pure stimulant we would also have to include LSD, DMT, DPT ect which all have a very significant stimulating effect on humans. Boilingorangejuice (talk) 20:06, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Do you have a source for this definition of psychedelic drug? It doesn't seem to match our article. Sizeofint (talk) 20:21, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
Also MDMA has reliable sources stating it is a stimulant. Sizeofint (talk) 22:00, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
Well, given that reasoning I will be adding LSD and psilocybin to the stimulants list given that while they are mainly known for their hallucinogenic effects they are also stimulating. Boilingorangejuice (talk) 07:42, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
If you find WP:MEDRS sources stating LSD and psilocybin are stimulants then do so. I have not seen any however. Sizeofint (talk) 09:21, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

MDMA is an amphetamine, why separete it?[edit]

In the introductory section MDMA is listed as separeted from the amphetamines: It is estimated that the percent of the population that has abused amphetamines, cocaine and MDMA combined is between .8% and 2.1%; Because MDMA is an amphetamine I'll edit this phrase to: It is estimated that the combined percentage of the population that has abused amphetamines or cocaine is between 0.8% and 2.1%.". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gottliber (talkcontribs) 22:30, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Fair point. Fixed it. Seppi333 (Insert ) 03:32, 14 October 2017 (UTC)