Talk:Stuyvesant High School

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Further criticism[edit]

There is a lot of positive info on Stuy on the page, however the school has its downsides too. To name a few:

Stress Cheating Rumored opposition to current principal Teitel Criticism of Teachers Oversized classes (35 I think)

Just to name a few. I think there should be some criticism of stuy added on there.JDH82793 (talk) 03:42, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

These are claims that can be made of any school, are they not? Alexguitar594 (talk) 03:35, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm not saying it can't be done though. If you find WP:RS with such information about Stuyvesant, it could be a worthy contribution to this article Alexguitar594 (talk) 21:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Arson[edit]

I think I'll get started on an arson section. I'll probably start research tomorrow. Anyone have any suggestions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Myachimantis (talkcontribs) 06:18, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Yup: Keep it encyclopedic. When you're writing, ask yourself whether someone who was never associated with the school would find it to be valuable information five years from now. If you can't say "Yes,", it's probably too marginal to be in the article. Personally, I'm not convinced the topic makes the grade, but give it a shot if you want to. RossPatterson (talk) 03:33, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Stuy Mascot?[edit]

I'm not sure what Stuy's mascot is, but calling a historical figure (Peter Stuyvesant) the school's mascot is rather comical. Maybe the field just doesn't belong in the infobox.

Any ideas? Level Crossing (talk) 02:50, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure I agree. In my day (1970s), he was referred to as "Pegleg Pete", the football team was called the Peglegs, and there was a huge portrait of him on the main staircase to the second floor of the 15th St. building. As we learned when that building was researched for landmark status, the school isn't named for Peter Stuyvesant (but rather "as being reminiscent of the locality"), so he isn't the school's patron. "Mascot" actually sounds about right to me. RossPatterson (talk) 23:53, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Student Diversity?[edit]

I note that Hunter College HS has a problem of lack of student diversity. (While students do expensive prep classes to get in.) Does SHS have the same problem? Paul, in Saudi (talk) 09:10, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Are there published sources which discuss either aspect? WhisperToMe (talk) 16:30, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Problems[edit]

I see several problems with this article: there are several [citation needed] tags, several very short paragraphs; dubious lists ("Other publications" and "summary of floors"); unsourced segments ("SING!"); and URLs within the article text ("In popular culture"). All of this should be addressed if the article is to stay FA; otherwise, I will send it to FAR. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 05:15, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

There are some phrases that might also be construed as promotional. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:30, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

It reads "Prior to 1999, Stuyvesant did not accept female students." I was in the school prior to 1999 and there were plenty of female students. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.193.216.147 (talk) 15:04, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

That was vandalism which has been fixed. Chris857 (talk) 16:30, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Featured Article Review[edit]

This article has now been listed at Featured Article Review. Concerns expressed by User:TenPoundHammer include:

  • Very many portions of the article are unsourced.
  • The article's structure is very sloppy, with loads of very short paragraphs and standalone sentences. A major copy edit is needed. (For instance, nearly every sentence in "History" begins with "In [year]…".)
  • Dubious lists ("Other publications" and "summary of floors") that are also unsourced.
  • Entirely unsourced segments ("SING!").
  • "In popular culture" is a mess of trivia.
  • Another editor also raised concern that some of the text seems promotional. I tagged at least one section ("strength in areas such as math and science").
  • I also see a very high number of primary sources.

Editors are invited to address the issues in order to prevent this article from being delisted from FA.

--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:03, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Ranking[edit]

I added (only subsequently to find it deleted) the fact that Stuy was the nation's top high school for some 70 years—that is, until magnet schools proliferated and the demographics of New York City went straight into the toilet and Stuy (to attend which one must live in NYC) could no longer compete with schools that draw from upper-middle-class Jewish/Chinese/Indian neighborhoods. I resent it bitterly when folks who consider themselves "editors" freewheelingly delete such critically important material because they find it inconvenient from the political correctness stance. It's equally unfortunate that there are people in this world who don't realize that "All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others." Tsk, tsk. These same people think nothing of crossing the street when they don't like "the looks" of the crowd approaching them, despite the obvious fact that "the looks" are clearly racially motivated. Alack, these people will grow up one day. 73.49.1.133 (talk) 23:27, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

WP:NOTFORUM. Find sources and write neutrally. It's not that hard. Grayfell (talk) 23:31, 17 October 2014 (UTC)