Talk:Syracuse, Sicily

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
          This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
WikiProject Cities (Rated B-class, High-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cities, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of cities, towns and various other settlements on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
B-Class article B  This article has been rated as B-Class on the project's quality scale.
 High  This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject Sicily (Rated B-class, Top-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Sicily, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Sicily on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
B-Class article B  This article has been rated as B-Class on the project's quality scale.
 Top  This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject Italy (Rated B-class, High-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Italy, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles on Italy on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
B-Class article B  This article has been rated as B-Class on the project's quality scale.
 High  This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome (Rated B-class, High-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is part of the WikiProject for Classical Greece and Rome, a group of contributors who write Wikipedia's Classics articles. If you would like to join the WikiProject or learn how to contribute, please see our project page. If you need assistance from a classicist, please see our talk page.
B-Class article B  This article has been rated as B-Class on the project's quality scale.
 High  This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject Greece (Rated C-class, Mid-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Greece, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Greece on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
C-Class article C  This article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.
Checklist icon
 Mid  This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
WikiProject World Heritage Sites (Rated C-class, Low-importance)
WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject World Heritage Sites, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of World Heritage Sites on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
C-Class article C  This article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale.
Checklist icon
 Low  This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
 
Archive
Archives

Untitled[edit]

Move?[edit]

Should this be moved to Syracuse, Syracuse as it is in the Province of Syracuse, and using the island of Sicily is not a standard naming convention? —ScouterSig 23:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Did you go through the archive? Does anyone seriously think that Syracuse, Syracuse is better than Syracuse, Sicily? What next, New York, New York!? πιππίνυ δ - (dica) 13:42, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
No, I had not checked the archive; don't jump on my back, man, please. And as far as NY, NY, I think that it would be a perfectly appropriate name (if a little redundant) not only to follow conventions but for specificity. —ScouterSig 14:27, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
It was a half joke - I had Frank Sinatra's raspy voice in my head as I wrote it. πιππίνυ δ - (dica) 00:06, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm guessing it was originally moved to disambiguate from Syracuse, NY. But the naming convention is fine, if anything you could say why isn't it Syracuse, Italy? El Greco(talk) 19:11, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Partly because it's so closely identified with Sicily-ness, ;-/ partly because it's been part of Sicily for much longer than it's been part of Italy.... FlagSteward (talk) 18:20, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Siracusa[edit]

Shouldn't this be removed from the list of "Syracuse" since it isn't known as Syracuse by its residents or in Italy? Just seems confusing for ppl like me looking for cities actually named Syracuse (looking for a University in NY) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.105.236.66 (talk) 15:55, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

No, that's what it's called in English and has been for hundreds of years. The fact that there’s a city of the same name in the U.S. shouldn’t be a problem, just consult the disambiguation page.Campolongo (talk) 13:54, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

- I really can't see why "Syracuse" should be removed from the list. It would be a complete nonsense for two simple reason: 1. "Syracuse" will appear on the list of anyone that does a search in english and is not able or doesn't know how to spell it in italian (one of the many beauty of wikipedia). 2. Ancient Syracuse was and still is one of the most beautifull cities in the world and definitely deserves to be on top of the list before any of the other places that borrowed its name.--Sal73x (talk) 15:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

This seems to be an Americanism - like spelling the Polish city of Krakow as Cracow. Guidebooks in the UK (Rough Guides, for example), TV programmes seen in the last year or so and newspaper articles from The Times and the Daily Express all use the name "Siracusa". Sure, it was called Syracuse in the past, just like we called the Polish city of Wroclaw using the name Breslau, etc. but this is 2011. I have visited the city many times and even lived there for a while and I can assure you that nobody except the odd American tourist (and not even all of them) would use the name Syracuse.--109.115.215.168 (talk) 20:18, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Syracuse, Sicily-Italy[edit]

I have just been reading through the archive and couldn't believe to all the different/uninformed/wrong theories that came out! I just wanted to say my opinion about the topic even if it's been discussed and people still don't listen. Syracuse, as it has been already said, today is part of the Italian Republic! Syracusan citizens hold aan Italian passport (not Sicilian) and the local goverment (sicilian) is very limited and still subject to national directives. There was no need to move it to Sicily because there are no other Syracuse in Italy. For those that were arguing about the history and ancient times the city has been under different domination and part of many empires and kingdoms. Syracuse, today, is in Italy.--Sal73x (talk) 12:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Primary topic[edit]

IMO this is the primary topic. Are there any other opinions on this? Thank you. --Kleinzach 02:32, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Cities Assessment[edit]

I have assessed this page within the WikiProject Cities as importance High, because of it's role in the region and listing as World Heritage site. And quality B in line with the assessments for the other projects. If you do not agree, feel free to adjust the assessment, please read the guidelines Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cities/Assessment#Instructions beforehand. CRwikiCA (talk) 13:10, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Missing half century[edit]

Apart from one short paragraph, there seems to be a gap in the coverage of the article between the defeat of Hieronymous and the Byzantine era. Did nothing of interest happen during that 500 years? --Ammilne (talk) 16:14, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

3,000 hoplites?[edit]

The article on the Ten Thousand lists 300 hoplites from Syracuse. Is this a data discrepancy or is there an accounting for the other 2,700 hoplites? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.115.250.17 (talk) 18:09, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Military[edit]

As far as I know, historians believe that the Military of the Kingdom of Syracuse during its Greek era was largely militia, meaning very few professional soldiers, and mostly militia hoplites and slingers. I think this is worth mentioning. If I don't get any no's, I'm going to put it in. Smeagol630 (talk) 23:50, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't think it is noteworthy enough to mention it because militias were commonly employed by all Greek city-states. Taken from Ancient Greek warfare: At least in the Archaic Period, the fragmentary nature of Ancient Greece, with many competing city-states, increased the frequency of conflict, but conversely limited the scale of warfare. Unable to maintain professional armies, the city-states relied on their own citizens to fight. This inevitably reduced the potential duration of campaigns, as citizens would need to return to the own professions (especially in the case of farmers). --AlexanderVanLoon (talk) 10:34, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Fair use candidate from Commons: File:Church of the Madonna of the Tears, Syracuse, Sicily. (Madonnina delle Lacrime).JPG[edit]

The file File:Church of the Madonna of the Tears, Syracuse, Sicily. (Madonnina delle Lacrime).JPG, used on this page, has been deleted from Wikimedia Commons and re-uploaded at File:Church of the Madonna of the Tears, Syracuse, Sicily. (Madonnina delle Lacrime).JPG. It should be reviewed to determine if it is compliant with this project's non-free content policy, or else should be deleted and removed from this page. If no action is taken, it will be deleted after 7 days. Commons fair use upload bot (talk) 19:25, 23 April 2014 (UTC)