Talk:Taos, New Mexico
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I'm not going to pull Bill Rane a second time but he should go. While it's possible he'd make top 10 Taos artists (especially when excluding visisting artists like O'Keeffe and Ansel Adams), I wouldn't consider him top 5, even contemporary, and this isn't a survey of Taos artists anyway. Listing him leads me to wonder whether or not the editor is a friend or owns one of his paintings. --Ashley 06:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC) (Former art critic for "The Taos News")
- Not involved in any way, just trying to keep w/ NPOV. The justification for removing and replacing that was not enough. Perhaps producing a list would make it more encompassing. Mikieminnow 14:17, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not the place to advertise commerical businesses. Please see WP:EL for more details.
Other editors should add their agreement NOT TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL LINKS ON THIS ARTICLE
Vivaverdi 18:12, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- Doesn't really need a separate consensus on each page-- it is covered by the guidelines. But sure, I'll second it, just for emphasis. -- Mwanner | Talk 19:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- I'll also add agreement. The Taos page indulges in fringe speculation at the onset, whose purpose seems to be to make Taos more attractive to tourism. The page also appears to be "patrolled" by special interest groups who revert changes requesting citations, etc. 126.96.36.199 (talk) 22:26, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Considerations for Taos editors
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so much of the information in this article is welcome, for example sections on History, Demographics and Geography.
What Wikipedia is not is a site where businesses and tourism get free Web space. There are many issues with this page, but they seem to stem from a conception on the part of some Taos editors that following the format of other Wiki pages also means that the content is appropriate.
Subjective, uncited statements such as "by all accounts he loved the ranch", "part of the appeal of this unique community" and "world class skiing" do not belong in an encyclopedia, and are contrary to Wiki guidelines described in WP:CONFLICT and WP:PEACOCK. I.e., you shouldn't write about yourself, and what you do write in Wiki should be objective, and preferably be accompanied by citations.
Adding many external links to self-serving Taos Web sites only emphasizes that aspect of the article that is for advertisement. Such links should be limited. Sometimes, even a single self-serving link is inappropriate.
Another Wiki policy is that information should be verifiable WP:V and should not represent fringe theories. Therefore extended commentary about the "Taos Hum" is unacceptable, and it probably shouldn't be mentioned whatever.
In sum, this article shows a broad disregard for Wiki's policies and rules in some areas, while other areas have exceptional content.
Many long-standing Wiki editors have references on their personal pages to help, guide and explain. And most will be glad to explain Wiki policy in an impartial way about other questions.
Template to "expand" government section
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||Tres Piedras||Taos Pueblo, Valdez, Questa||Taos Ski Valley|
|Carson National Forest||Angel Fire, Eagle Nest|
|Rancho de Taos, Picuris Pueblo||Penasco||Santa Fe National Forest|
Census Update needed
This article is still using 2000 census numbers. It is 1/17/12 as I write this, surely the 2010 census numbers are available. Lets see if this & other USA towns/cities can't be updated quickly. 188.8.131.52 (talk) 07:12, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Please do not remove radio stations simply because they are "officially" located in El Prado or Arroyo Seco. Taos is a small town with several nearby unincorporated villages and "populated areas". They are all considered "Taos" by local residents. In fact, KTAO, the most popular radio station, is also actually located outside the town limits in the suburb of El Prado, regardless of what "Radio Locator" says. Removing all but four stations verges on vandalism. The current mayor owns four stations operated from facilities located in town, plus KTAO is licensed in Taos, regardless of the location, and why remove KUNM, the station of the University of New Mexico at Taos? If you'd clicked through to the article you would have seen that the KUNM article explains that the University broadcasts from several locations under different call signs, including KRRT (90.9) in the suburb of Arroyo Seco. And even the UNM Taos campus itself is technically in the "populated place" Llano Quemado. This is a rural area composed of one town, a native American pueblo, and half a dozen unincorporated villages and "populated places". The area is mountainous and several stations technically licensed outside Taos have boosters or repeaters in Taos - because they do serve Taos. We who live here deserve to have all our radio stations listed, they are what we listen to. We don't need someone not familiar with the area dictating how we document our airwaves. Thank you. Yworo (talk) 16:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- Support Yworo re this --Pete Tillman (talk) 02:19, 20 May 2012 (UTC), another Taoseno
The tags are all inappropriate. They have been placed as an escalation of an edit war. I will address them individually.
- Citations: The article has 64 citations. The only section of the article lacking citation is the section on sister cities.
- Cleanup: No explanation has been given as to precisely what needs to be cleaned up. The article looks fine.
- Original research: Again, nearly every section of the article has been reliably sourced. There is nothing in the article that seems questionable to me in terms of original research.
- There is nothing wrong with the tone. Peacock words and commercial promotion have been removed from this article long ago.
- Yup, I've read the article though, gone on a long walk, come back and read it again. The tags are still inappropriate. This is a robust and well-cited article. A mass of general complaints at the top of the article are simply not helpful. A more useful approach would be to individually tag specific facts that are questioned, specific sections that need cleanup, specific claims that may be OR, and specific places where tone is a problem, using inline tags. Again, if there is no response, I will remove the tags shortly. Yworo (talk) 23:28, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- While I am not familiar with the background of this dispute, I would tend to agree that these tags aren't particularly helpful. There is no indication given of what, specifically, needs to be fixed, and having this many tags gives the impression that the article is in dire need of attention which to my eye is not the case here. Camerafiend (talk) 00:09, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
- That said, there is certainly room for improvement in the article. Especially the "Historical places and tourism" section which reads a bit like a travel brochure in my opinion. So I don't think the tagging was entirely unjustified, even though it would have been more helpful to use inline tags for specific issues. Camerafiend (talk) 00:37, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
I just removed this
from the second paragraph because it does not really make sense,
- "The name is also referred to by the nearby ski resort of Taos Ski Valley."
I cut this guy out
of the "Notable people" section because as far as I can discover he spent maybe a couple of months in Taos. If we include every visitor to town here the list will became unmanageable.