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dispute?

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Does anyone know why this article is marked as in dispute?

Alister 01:03, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe because she wasn't actually born in AZ.

-HughMor

so then where was she born? is a dispute tag really necessary? -- eo 00:34, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

remove the Dispute?

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Article seems OK to me....


Almost crashed?

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"Manning discussed her experience as one of 140 passengers on JetBlue Airways Flight 292, which had almost crashed." I'm sorry, but a nose gear problem, even a complete nose gear FAILURE on an Airbus 320 does not constitute "almost crashed". I see a picture of fire and brimstone being portrayed, of a big fireball. Sorry if I sound picky. A pilot with experience and current training (who is just the person in the left seat of an A320) does not CRASH because of a nose gear issue. This sounds like an exagerration. I think the wording needs to be "softened", if you will. Acidradio 08:35, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Boomkatalog.One.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:38, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Photo

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This article needs a photo. So anyone, please add one to this. -- Thank you! I think a shot from a movie premiere or a cute picture of her should be added too. She is a talented actress, who deserves to be respected !! Right, guys? - Lollomonkey1

-- Agreed. Photos are needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.72.225.46 (talk) 17:22, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Bad photos

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If the photos are not allowed here, then why not do something to fix it instead of just marking it to speedy deletion category. I mean, what the heck?!?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.72.225.46 (talk) 13:59, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New picture of her

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New picture of her should be added to this article. The picture right now is old and not very good. She's drinking soda. Add a picture from a premiere etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.134.23.130 (talk) 07:43, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2019

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There is a simple inaccuracy re: the description of Taryn's role in Hawaii Five-0. Please change "main role" to "recurring role." Source here: https://www.tvguide.com/news/kecks-exclusives-taryn-1027062/ This article clearly states: "She was originally slated to appear in the first four episodes and recur throughout the season." That is, she was intended to be a recurring character. This is further evidenced by IMDB, which shows that Taryn appeared in 3 episodes of season one, and a total of 10 episodes in the show's 9 season run thus far. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1600194/fullcredits/cast?ref_=m_tt_cl_sc

A recurring character, as per wiki, is "a fictional character...who often and frequently appears from time to time during the series' run." Henceforth, the classification of "main" character, for any season, is inaccurate. The currently cited sources do not support the current description, they clearly indicate that the role is recurring.

Please change to, "Manning has had a recurring role on Hawaii Five-0 since season 1."

LizzyRobbie (talk) 04:47, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply] 

Robbie
 Not done: Despite only appearing in three episodes Manning received main billing. Per WP:TVCAST main cast members are determined by the credits on the show itself and is NOT based on screen time. Therefore the role is main. TheDoctorWho (talk) 05:00, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Determined by the credits on the show itself" - I accept that premise, I just don't see/know where exactly, this specific determination of her having a main role can be found. I'm genuinely curious and open to the answer. Where is the evidence that she received main billing? The current sources cited in the wiki article do not prove that - in fact they disprove it. The season one credits list four actors: Alex O'Loughlin, Scott Caan, Grace Park and Daniel Dae Kim. Furthermore, the wiki page for the show itself list ONLY those 4 as receiving main billing in season one. (Apologies if this response is in the wrong spot, am still familiarizing myself with Wikipedia's discussion format.) LizzyRobbie LizzyRobbie (talk) 05:51, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Note: I'm closing this edit request to allow the discussion to continue. Please feel free to re-open if necessary once WP:CONSENSUS has been reached. NiciVampireHeart 09:01, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Billing status

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"Determined by the credits on the show itself" - please show me where, exactly, this determination can be found. I'm genuinely curious and open to the answer. Where is the evidence that she received main billing? The current sources cited in the wiki article do not prove that - in fact they disprove it. The season one credits list four actors: Alex O'Loughlin, Scott Caan, Grace Park and Daniel Dae Kim. Furthermore, the wiki page for the show itself list ONLY those 4 as receiving main billing in season one. (Apologies if this response is in the wrong spot, am still familiarizing myself with Wikipedia's discussion format.) LizzyRobbie (talk) 05:17, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

For the fact that she received main billing you can see the "also starring" credit she is given in the episodes at the following links: S1E4, S1E5, S1E13. It is the first credit after the opening credits in those episodes and is determined as that the series is "also starring" Manning in addition to the other four you mentioned above. In any other season 1 episode only O'Loughlin, Caan, Park, and Kim are given main billing. Just wondering, by wiki page are you referring to this page? TheDoctorWho (talk) 05:54, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I should have specified the page. No, I'm referring to this site, specifically this page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hawaii_Five-0_(2010_TV_series)_characters

The chart lists her as "also starring", while simultaneously listing other cast as "main" - that is: there is a difference between the two types of role.

I agree, the CBS links you've provided indicate that she is "also starring" - but why is that being interpreted as "main"? I read through the earlier link you provided (thanks!) about correctly listing casts, but didn't find any discussion as to "also starring." Neither did I find any argument that "also starring" and "main" are the same thing.

I'd argue that the two are clearly different - as evidenced by the currently cited article referring to her character as "recurring" throughout the first season. I acknowledge that Wikipedia doesn't take into account the number of episodes, but ultimately I wonder: what good is the opening para of the page, if it gives readers a massively incorrect impression of how much the character will be seen?

If she is "also starring" - would it not be better to simply write that she has an "also starring" credit? LizzyRobbie (talk) 08:10, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well within the series any actors generally receive one of the following five credits: They're credited in the opening sequence, "also starring", "special guest star" "guest star" or "co-star". Co-stars are generally more minor roles and generally don't play an important enough role to be mentioned. "Special guest star" or "Guest star" are a given, this includes all recurring characters as they are only guest starring within the individual episode. Being featured in the opening credit sequence of the series is those actors that are being starred in the series. So "also starring" indicates that they are being billed higher than a guest star and could again be said as that the series is "also starring" this member in addition to the rest of the cast. The more important word to focus on there is "starring" because it is the equivalent is saying that this actor is starring in the series. It's also important to follow precedent here where within the series Lauren German is considered a main character because she received an also starring credit for the majority of the second season. Chi McBride was also considered to be starring in the series as soon as he began receiving an also starring credit halfway through the fourth season. Another example of actors being considered main when they receive an also starring credit is here on a similar show. TheDoctorWho (talk) 18:54, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There's still the assumption, here, that "also starring" or, as you specify, "starring" = main. Why is that the case? That's what I'm trying to figure out. To me, it's a separate category - otherwise why bother to have both "starring" and "also starring" in the first place? You say to focus on "starring" but: why? That is not the full name of the category.

If the argument is that "recurring" is incorrect because she received "also starring" billing, then why is it acceptable to transform "also starring" into "main"? Even the Blue Bloods page that you linked displays three separate categories: recurring, also starring, main. Ergo, they're different.

I agree that it's important to follow precedent. At this stage it's a matter of semantics and we clearly disagree, so I'll just let it go. I have no stake in this, other than the fact that it gives readers the wrong impression. But I will ask this, again.

If the opening paragraph gives readers an incorrect understanding of the season one role (readers will clearly read para and expect the character to be in the season a lot) then what good is it? They merely end up misinformed. LizzyRobbie (talk) 23:11, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@LizzyRobbie: Well that's when people will have to make their own assumption of the role and then if they make the assumption that she's in the entire season then they'll just have to be disappointed. Main has never meant and will never mean that they'll in the entire season. For example in this series there was a character that was only credited as main in the first episode but was considered a main character for the entire season. Or in this series there was a character only credited as main in the first two episodes of the season but is still considered a main character for the season. This situation is no different. TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:07, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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