Talk:The Cartridge Family

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People keep adding that the Sky One banning of this episode had something to do with the 1996 Dunblane massacre. I haven't been able to find a source for this, though - the official Sky One statement at the time simply said the episode content was 'too strong'. Besides, Dunblane was over a year and a half ago by then, and by the time it was eventually shown on Sky it was almost ten years ago. It doesn't make sense, anyway - Homer doesn't shoot any kids or anything (or anyone at all). So if you want to add the mention of the Dunblane shootings back in, please add a source. BillyH 14:07, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Quotes

i'm going to delete Willie saying "They call this a soccer riot?" and the Scottish men starting the riot is a reference to soccer hooliganism in Great Britain. because it has no merit- it plays on stereotypes and doesn't say why it makes reference to this. it appears that someone associated football with hooliganism and therefore linked them here with no proof. Jonomacdrones 21:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Firearms

more of the firearms to be listed. any more firearms would be appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.236.226.196 (talk) 00:13, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

No, I don't think it would be. Wikipedia is not a place for information, and the guns in the gunshop are too trivial, and not what the episode is well known for. TheBlazikenMaster 00:22, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

GA review

• "This was the first episode to be executively produced by Mike Scully."
  • Already was done.
    • I mean, executively is the wrong word. "Executive produced" is proper grammar. Alientraveller 15:55, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
• Swartzwelder on the commentary is more relevant to his article.

Alientraveller 15:12, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

• • I don't know, but I'll remove it for now. Gran² 15:26, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Pass. Alientraveller 16:14, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

GA Sweeps (Pass)

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, MASEM 23:51, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Channel 4

On channel four, the part where Marge decides to keep the gun was cut —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vitual aelita (talk • contribs) 17:14, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I confirm that Marge keeping the gun was edited from the version shown on Channel 4 on 27th July 2008 at 4:15pm. I had added this fact to the article, as has at least one other person. My addition was as follows: "Channel 4 has aired an edited version of the episode which does not show Marge deciding to keep the gun herself". Unfortunately this fact, which could be confirmed by anyone who actually watched this particular airing, was removed from the article. I don't know if it will be possible for anyone to find a source to confirm this fact, just as I doubt anyone removing this fact from the article can find a source to show that an uncut version was aired. DANZIG666 (talk) 17:33, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

It is unsourced, and that is simply all there is to it. The fact that it aired with the cut, and you and others can confirm that is irelevant. The fact is, if you showed the edited version of the episode, to something who had never seen the episode before, they would have no idea that anything was cut. Therefore it is OR to say that it was cut without and online or paper source. A reliable source is definitly needed in this circumstance. Also, the majority of censor cuts are not at all notable, unless they are reported by reliable sources, with a specific reason for their cutting being given. I see no reason why this is any different. The episode featuring a cut, in one airing is not notable. Gran² 18:34, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Before an edit war starts, I was just making sure that no one didn't put this in because they didn't know Vitual aelita (talk) 19:40, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

If this Channel 4 edit simply involved the removal of a certain word or scene not relevant to the overall storyline of the episode I would agree that it would not be notable. This censor cut is notable due to the controversial nature of the episode and because it involved the removal of a key final plot twist. The fact that anyone who had not seen the uncut episode but had only seen this edited version would be unaware of the cut, as you mention above, is more reason to add this fact to the article as it changed the entire lesson of the story (whether Channel 4's intention or not) to one that is more suitable for the UK's lack of tolerance towards gun ownership DANZIG666 (talk) 00:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

As I said, unless it is reported by a reliable source, it has no notability. Gran² 06:47, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Sky One's handling of this episode ("not aired") is notable enough to have been included in the article. BBC2's handling of this episode ("aired several times") is notable enough to have been included in the article. Therefore by default Channel 4's handling of this episode (aired an edited version) must be notable enough to be included in the article. DANZIG666 (talk) 18:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

"As I said, unless it is reported by a reliable source, it has no notability." Both of those points are sourced. Gran² 18:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Stop abusing notability, the problem here is citation not notability.--86.15.155.53 (talk) 08:44, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

3F16

Homer suggests Bart and Lisa take "the gun" to defend themselves in 3F16 "The Day the Violence Died", which would mean he had a gun before this episode. Worth mentioning? --Serpinium (talk) 18:15, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

I'd say not worth mentioning as it's trivia and original research. Continuity errors and such usually should not be mentioned. —DangerousJXD (talk) 21:27, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Okay. He also wields a shotgun onscreen in "$pringfield". --Serpinium (talk) 07:33, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

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