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Question about ratings

The article says: "Tonight at 11:30 pm earned about a 1.5 rating in the 18-49 demographic". What does that mean? This article say that the Tonight Show with Jay Leno typically got a 4.0 rating during this year. Is that for all ages. So that the 0-17 group (if there is one) and the 50-~ group contributed a 2.5 rating?

Yes, that's what it means. TV shows get canceled all the time because they may have a lot of total viewers, but too few in the 18-49 demographic. Conversely, Gossip Girl stays on the air despite having infinitesimal ratings, overall, because the viewers it does attract have very-desirable demographics.

That said, news articles that discuss ratings often aren't clear on what specific demoraphic they refer to. 18-49 ratings are so commonly focused on that many times those ratings will be cited without specifically saying so. So, if there's any ambiguity, it's important to just cite what sources say without elaboration. YLee (talk) 18:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Five nights a week?

This is going to be five nights a week? Isn't NBC going to have to axe a lot of programs to make it fit there? Why hasn't this been mentioned in the article? --98.232.180.37 (talk) 05:55, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe ER is ending its run after this season. I'm guessing the Law & Order shows will be moved but I heard there was speculation that Law & Order could end its run after this season as well or maybe be moved to Saturdays.George Pelltier (talk) 06:19, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Law & Order: Special Victims Unit will be moved to 9:00 PM EST Tuesdays. I'm guessing they'll cancel alot of the lesser watched shows or move them to the weekend.TomCat4680 (talk) 06:36, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Most likely existing hits will be moved to earlier time slots on other days, and NBC will obviously not bother ordering five hours worth of pilots, which has surely already irritated studios and unions that lose all that broadcast real estate.Kuahmel (talk) 18:33, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Logo

I suspect, that eventually, a televised screen capture of the show's intertitle will be used to support a logo image for this page. However, in the meantime, why has no one thought to place a non-screen captured image of the logo here?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.20.131.39 (talk) 00:01, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reception

I was wondering if it is too soon to start the reception section. Any reliable sources out there? Thanks--Camilo Sanchez (talk) 02:11, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Should be able to start something in regards to ratings for the first night some time soon, and maybe some reactions from numerous online sources tomorrow too. Gage (talk) 02:21, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Late Night Talk Show template

I've removed the template from the page, since Leno is considered a prime time show, and not a late night show. The Jay Leno Show was not even on the template. According to the template's talk page, it looks like it's been agreed to remove it from there. It makes no sense to me to have the template on this page. --Evildevil (talk) 02:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Announcer

Is the opening announcer Edd Hall, the old announcer of The Tonight Show before John Melendez? If so I think this should be mentioned, as well as the fact that John Melendez isn't on it. TomCat4680 (talk) 05:48, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't believe so. Makes me think of Joe Cipriano though. Gage (talk) 19:31, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong! Not the first 5 times a week prime-time show!!

Gee, haven't you people heard of Captain Video and His Video Rangers?. Retro Agnostic (talk) 15:04, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

10 at 9?

Is the segment title "10 at 10" supposed to refer to the hour in which the show is broadcast? If not, it is obscure; if so, it is lame, since a good part of the country sees the show an hour earlier than that. It is reminiscent of Johnny Carson's parochialism in his often-repeated line, "Film at 11", and his urban conviction that UHF meant non-network. All of these must have left a lot of central-time viewers baffled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.233.37.49 (talk) 22:18, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As I understand it, the show airs at 10:00 in the Eastern and Pacific time zones, which have populous cities like New York and L.A. In the more rural Central and Mountain zones it airs at 9:00. 9:00 central time is the same time as 10:00 eastern time; however, TV shows are delayed for the Pacific and Mountain zones (e.g. Saturday Night Live is not really live), so I'm not sure why the air times are different for those two time zones, since the number of hours to delay broadcasting is essentially arbitrary. They could set it up so that Tucson, Arizona is consistent with L.A., California, if they wanted to. --Keith111 (talk) 21:28, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I note that when the guest in the satellite segment is physically located in the Central or Mountain time zone, Jay calls the segment "9 at 9" and asks the guest only 9 questions. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:22, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Recurring Segments

Shoudn't we put the Recurring Segments like Headlines, JMZ and 10@10 TheSimpsonsRocks (talk) 20:18, 8 January 2010 (UTC)TheSimpsonsRocks[reply]

The Boycott Section

Has anyone actually read the cited material that is used to support all the information about the cable networks boycott? I have, and it doesn't contain that info anywhere in the article, just Jay's musings about ABC and CBS.

I've tagged it twice now, and it keeps getting untagged, but I think the info should go unless it can actually be verified. Artemisstrong (talk) 03:14, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've just rearranged that section in mostly chronological order, and made clear which parts have references and which don't. I also removed the mention of Comedy Central and TNT as specific boycotters because none of the 3 in the section references mention them. The specific claims that now still need references or removal:

Appearances of ABC and CBS people other than Julia Louis-Dreyfus
Whether Fox offers network programming in the 10 p.m. ET time slot
Whether Hugh Laurie said Fox may have programming at 10 p.m. ET next season (September 25, 2009 episode)

--Closeapple (talk) 03:53, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Update 9/3/10: There's somebody here who put down a huge list of channels that could not possibly be participating in the boycott. It included Comedy Central (owned by NBC, why would a company boycott itself? That makes no sense.), several Time Warner channels (known not to be participating since HBO and the CW are not), and channels such as Cartoon Network/Adult Swim that have no live-action characters that could possibly appear. Disney channels such as ESPN and ABC have long had a policy of exclusivity toward their personalities that did not extend solely to this show. Since none of the channels other than ABC or CBS are cited in any articles, I removed all of them. (P.S. You can check the Fox schedule itself to prove there's no programming there in the 10 p.m. time slot.)J. Myrle Fuller (talk) 14:21, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Last Call with Carson Daly

This article, besides explaining Jimmy Fallon and Conan O'Brien's situation should also clarify what happens with Carson Daly's show... 76.66.197.17 (talk) 13:17, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

'huge wave of support' for Conan

..followed by a huge wave of spam citations from tabloids... Seriously lol? this is why people don't take wikipedia seriously. 128.12.101.57 (talk) 00:51, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

should we list why the show did not air on on these three days?

if anyone remember that "The Jay Leno Show" did not air on on these following days December 1, 2009, and January 22, 2010, and January 27, 2010. should we list this on the page? am i correct that it only been 3 times that the show did not air ? is it ? or i missed something?Loserjay10 (talk) 20:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

man it honestly looks like NBC didn't give a chance to The Jay Leno show, they did not air it on February 2, 2010, that is the 4th time they didn't air the show, looks like there's gonna be only 95 episodes total for this show.Loserjay10 (talk) 10:27, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leno's prime time program didn't air on December 1, 2009 because of President Obama holding a prime time press conference that prompted NBC News special coverage earlier in primetime. On January 22, NBC expanded an episode of Dateline to 10/9c and on January 27, President Obama delivered the State of the Union Address from 9-10:30 PM ET, eliminating prime time hours from NBC's lineup. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dforthofer (talk • contribs) 04:24, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

tense

since the show is canceled, shouldn't most of the article be changed to past tense? 67.176.160.47 (talk) 19:48, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone ahead and changed the tense in the International broadcast section as it's unlikely any of those stations listed are airing reruns. 68.146.81.123 (talk) 16:24, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Additional info and updates

Do we really need time and day for international broadcasts since the show is no longer airing anywhere?
The creator of Southland explicitly blamed the Jay Leno Show for the cancellation off NBC of his series after its first season. This should be added. 68.146.81.123 (talk) 16:24, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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"We don't need a history lesson...." So... what?

"Grape" says "we don't need a history lesson" about the timings of which version of Tonight Show was Jay Leno's just because it was in the disambiguation hatnote. (Please correct me if I'm using the wrong terminology.) Okay, so maybe we don't need it, and that's fine. But why, "Grape," do you figure that not needing something is a good enough reason to actively prohibit it by trying to enforce its removal? What do you believe was the "problem" with having it there?

Do any others want to chime in? Thayve Sintar (talk) 12:45, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's just not important in the context of a hat-note. Its overkill. Besides it could be confusing to an extent because this show was also hosted by Leno in 2009 and 2010. Grapesoda22 (✉) 05:12, 7 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Grapesoda22, "not important" doesn't mean "must not exist or be done." But maybe overkill is a concern. Are you trying to say that it's... too wordy for a hatnote?

As for his hosting this show, The Jay Leno Show, during 2009 and 2010, that shouldn't be too confusing, because it wasn't a late-night talk show like the hatnote specifies Tonight Show to be; it was a primetime talk show. Thayve Sintar (talk) 17:05, 7 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why should we even bother with something that is not important? It is too wordy. Quite frankly nobody cares to read this absurdly massive amount of information for a hatnote. Grapesoda22 (✉) 17:09, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Grapesoda22, I kind of doubt people won't bother reading a disambiguation note, because after all, it's up there at the top, all in italics. Ya can't miss it. They just about have to bother reading it. Also, you can't read their minds, so "nobody cares" is invalid. But the one good point you left us with is that you believe it's too wordy for a hatnote. Maybe so. So I've gone ahead and put your edit back per our discussion. I guess if any other editors have an issue with it, they can and should chime in now. Have a nice time. Thayve Sintar (talk) 08:40, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]