Talk:Laura Jane Grace

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Birth name[edit]

Hi, I have no experience editing wikipedia, but I was just wondering what is the purpose of leaving Laura's birth name up. Legally speaking, if she changed her ID she must've also changed her birth certificate, meaning that she was not born Thomas, but Laura. Even if that weren't the case, it seems to me like useless and harmful information. Laura Jane is not an artist name, it's her actual name, so this case is entirely different from the usual "ARTIST_NAME (Born REAL_NAME)" format. I think it should be removed altogether from the beggining of the article. That's it, thanks for reading. (talk) 21:12, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Birth names are commonly indicated on Wikipedia, even if a person has changed their name legally. For transgender people, the guideline is to put their birth name in the lead if they were notable by that name before coming out (see Chelsea Manning or Caitlyn Jenner, for example). MOS:BIRTHNAME is the relevant section of the Manual of Style for this. Also useful: MOS:GENDERID and the essay Wikipedia:Gender identity. In my opinion, mentioning a person's birth name is useful if they were previously well-known because older sources might still use that name and it could be confusing to a reader to come across a source that only refers to Tom Gabel if they didn't know that person is now named Laura Jane Grace. clpo13(talk) 22:12, 18 June 2018 (UTC)