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Religion?[edit]

I don't know what the man's religion is (if he has one), but several sites out there claim he is Roman Catholic. Is this just speculation based on the McMahon family being Catholic and that he "must have converted" in order to marry Stephanie? *wit woo* — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.20.243.213 (talk) 19:34, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Drew Carey[edit]

Hey, Triple H was on an episode of the Drew Carey show, should that be added to his page? I would sign my name, but there's old syrup on that button, and pressing it feels really weird, sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.95.205.242 (talk) 17:05, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

The Game[edit]

I have not watched wrestling since 2002, but I do remember Trible H being called "The Game", so I added that to his stats. Shortly before his death, singer Dave Williams wrote and performed one of Triple H's entrance musics called "The Game" or "Here comes The Game" Here's a refrence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcjLtrC5RFE - Mdriver1981 (talk) 03:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Smackdown[edit]

It should be mentioned that since being drafted to Smackdown, Triple H has successfully defended the title against Edge and will defend against Great Khali. Shortman81 (talk) 01:41, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

No, it shouldn't. That is non-notable week-by-week and fails WP:N and WP:RECENTISM Gavyn Sykes (talk) 03:37, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

His win over Cena at Night of FAGETS should be in there, considering they built up the damn thing for 6 months(Royal Rumble till NOC) and that they were wrestlemania main event oponents at one time and it was his first match as a member of Smackdown.

Its not notable to include; It would just seem as trivial. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:32, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I think it should be noted about his wins at summerslam, unforgiven and the great american bash 2008. Why shouldn't it wikipedia is about facts and he only has one sentence there in the move to smackdown 2008-present part dont you think its a little empty. -keaundre dawn 02:03, 3 October 2008 (UTC)User:Keaundre24|Keaundre24keaundre dawn 02:03, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

It's been 6 damn months and no one has change and left it the same thing since his move to smackdwon! Some highlights are like Summerslam, his feud with Jeff Hardy and Vladimir Kozlov, and his Unforgiven victory in the championship scamble. You should mention the people he has beat the the title and that he has teamed up with shawn michaels 1 or 2 times since it. (User: Lukas Vanelanotte).--LukasVandelanotte (talk) 19:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Awesome Show YoungKevin261 (talk) 20:43, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

2008[edit]

Incomplete?[edit]

Where are his feuds of 2008 with Cena, Edge, MVP, Khali, Benjamin, Hardy and Kozlov? Feedback 11:56, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I think to these people, what you said was either completely not notable at all for Triple H's overall career or maybe that they are so busy that they have no time to edit the page. 121.120.95.81 (talk) 16:09, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Not really notable to his overall career, most of them at least. His match with Cena should be in, as should his rention in the scramble match. Hardy and Kozlov should be added when the feud concludes. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 19:46, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

There should be some kind of update because the last one was at the draft. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.1.145.98 (talk) 15:12, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Move to Smackdown (2008-present)[edit]

Since his move to Smackdown! Triple H has defeated Jeff Hardy, The Great Khali, Edge, The Big Show, MVP and may other superstars all to retain the WWE Championship.

If we add every time he defeated someone to retain the title, the article would be 27x as long. We should only add defenses when they are a part of a major storyline, are unique in some way, or if he loses the title. Nikki311 20:40, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
For example, if Triple H were to lose the belt to either Hardy or Koslov at Survivor Series, the feud would be notable to add in, so the information about the title defenses against that person could also be added in as an explanation of the feud. Nikki311 20:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Move to Smackdown! (2008-present) 2[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} Since his move to Smaackdown! Triple H has been victorious at The Great American Bash,Summerslam, Unforgiven, No Mercy and Cyber Sunday retaining the WWE Championship. In late 2008, he entered a feud with Jeff Hardy & Vladamir Kozlov both gunning to the WWE title. --LukasVandelanotte (talk) 21:50, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Did you even read my reply to your above post? Nikki311 00:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


Move To Smackdown (2008-present) 3[edit]

Shouldn't we mention that Edge came in half-way through the match which is why he lost? Here's a simple edit:

Triple H ultimately lost his title to Edge, who came out when his wife, Vikki Guerrero announced that he returned to the WWE. Jeff Hardy then came out and knocked Triple H, and Vladimir Kozlov out with a steel chair. When trying to swing at Edge, he was speared and Edge covered Triple H for the win. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tttt1872 (talkcontribs) 18:54, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

No, there only needs to have a summary of what happened, not a replay. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:39, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
And to summarise the match would be to include that it began as a singles match and became a triple threat. Not all that detail but that Edge was there for only a minute and that he was hit with a chair are notable factors. Tony2Times (talk) 02:30, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Edit To Move To Smackdown: 2008-Present[edit]

Why don't we have that he will be participating in the Royal Rumble 2009? Also, he's now feuded with Smackdown GM Vickie Guerrero,and also publicly showed nude pictures of her on Smackdown. You we could also maybe state that he interfered with the Big Show vs. MVP match, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tttt1872 (talkcontribs) 22:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

It's all non-notable and week by week info. Simon \\ KSK Yes we can! 22:45, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Spinebuster[edit]

Isn't it called the "Double-A Spinebuster" like what JR says? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.53.82.113 (talk) 16:58, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

That's the orginial name of a spinebuster, not his spinebuster. SimonKSK 22:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

'Double A' refers to Arn Anderson, who used the move years ago. Dan20001 (talk) 08:38, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

shouldn't a spinbuster be a attack move instead of a signeture ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.72.35.186 (talk) 09:32, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Entrance Themes Missing[edit]

There are quite a few entrance themes missing from this section. "Higher Brain Pattern" -- Used while with the Corporate Ministry "Cerebral Assassin" -- Used when we discovered he was the one behind Austin's hit and run. Why aren't these two themes there? Charles-Joseph (talk) 22:08, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Do you have a source for these themes? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

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WWF Broadcasts idiot. 91.107.186.52 (talk) 23:30, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

New section required?[edit]

certainly some sort of "Criticisms" section is required in the article? Few people in Professional Wrestling history have been despised for their backstage abuses of power. As I type this Mr Levesque has just "won" his 13th World Heavyweight Championship! That's 11 more than Bruno Sammartino! That seems unlikely unless he were the target of much criticism(some deserved, some perhaps not so). 41.245.179.185 (talk) 08:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

That's a crass comparison to make. Everyone's home boy The Rock won nine world titles in three years on the world title scene, seven times more than Sammartino. It's a different era for world titles. Not that the criticism isn't out there, but it would be better to compare him to someone who has been on the world title leagues for as long as him, who is roughly the same age as him and most importantly in the same era as him. And of course find some reliable sources. Tony2Times (talk) 02:40, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Update[edit]

Why isn't his current fued with Orton listed? I mean COme on its big enough for Him to "break into" Orton's House why isn't it on the page!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.167.109 (talk) 05:46, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Its considered week-by-week. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Yea but Now Orton has Handcuffed HHH and kissed Stephanie while she was unconsious. I think this should be updated!

No, because its still week-by-week. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:13, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Upon Reading the Page On When to update per Wiki Rules it does not say that we can't go week by week if its important. and this is the biggest fued HHH has been in all year so There for it should be listed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.185.144.155 (talk) 19:03, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

That's not saying much, it's pretty much the ONLY feud Triple H has been in this year (it started before Royal Rumble). TJ Spyke 22:34, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

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Nephews and nieces names?[edit]

Is it really necessary to name all his nephews and neices in the personal life section? I don't think so, I think we should err on the side of giving them their privacy. However, maybe I'm missing some reason to include them, so please discuss it here if you disagree with me. Raven1977Talk to meMy edits 16:47, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I'd say leave the names out unless the nephew or niece meets the general notability and biography criterias. [[Briguy52748 (talk) 16:52, 25 March 2009 (UTC)]]

The third generation of McMahons have been announced on WWE TV, and used in promos by the parents. It is also normal to mention the names of children in bios. Darrenhusted (talk) 16:54, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

In addition, random example here are the names of Eddie and Vickie Guerreros children. Darrenhusted (talk)
Just a further comment regarding my opinion, I knew I had seen it stated earlier in the WP:BLP policy, but it took me a while to find it. It's here: Wikipedia:BLP#Privacy_of_names. See this quote in particular: "Take particular care when considering whether inclusion of the names of private, living individuals who are not directly involved in an article's topic adds significant value. The presumption in favor of the privacy of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved persons without independent notability is correspondingly stronger."
The names I have issue with are not Levesque's children, these are nephews and nieces. They are not celebrities, their names are not vital to knowing who Levesque is. If you wish to state it such that "Levesque also has several neices and nephews." that would be acceptable to me as a compromise. I just strongly feel we should err on the side of privacy of names of non-celebrities, even if other news media doesn't do so. Especially in the case of Lynn's kids, she's not a celebrity herself, so I think her kids' names definitely should be kept out. I can see some leeway with Shane's kids, but I still feel that the names are not necessary in this article. They would be more acceptable in Shane's article, as they're actually his kids.Raven1977Talk to meMy edits 17:21, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

(Unindent) Also, can we agree to leave the names out until this discussion is finished, rather than edit warring? Let's wait 24 hours or so and see where consensus lies. If necessary we can go to WP:3O to get further input from uninvolved editors. Raven1977Talk to meMy edits Except that consensus has been to keep the names, you need consensus to remove them, and they are mentioned on every McMahon page, not just HHH. Darrenhusted (talk) 17:33, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

  • Two additional points. Darrenhusted states at my talk page that consensus is to leave the names in. I disagree; consensus at this discussion so far is two to keep the children's names out (myself and User:Briguy52748) and one to keep the names in, that being Darrenhusted. Furthermore, to Darrenhusted, you're talking about sons and daughters, I'm talking about nephews and nieces. These are two different things. I have no objection to Shane's children being mentioned on Shane's page. I object to distant relations (being nephews and nieces) being named on this page. Please show me where other articles have people's nephews and nieces listed on their page, because that would be a better argument against my stance here, in my opinion. Raven1977Talk to meMy edits 17:42, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
  • FYI, I have linked this at WP:3O, so hopefully we can get an uninvolved editor's opinion on the matter. If that doesn't work, I'll link it at WP:RFC, as I think there needs to be a consensus of more than 2 or 3 on this. Raven1977Talk to meMy edits 18:03, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
The fact that the date of birth has been there since the day they were born, and is referenced by WWE itself, means that the consensus has been to keep them. Darrenhusted (talk) 21:56, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Go back and reread what I wrote above please; you keep mentioning his daughters but I'm not even discussing them. My question is regarding whether his nieces and nephews names need to be mentioned, not his children. Raven1977Talk to meMy edits 17:00, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I have to agree with Raven on this one. Children's names should be included, but I see no reason to include neices and nephews. Thanks, Genius101Guestbook 22:26, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I would like to point out that Shane McMahon appeared with his son Deacon in the opening promo of WrestleMania XX. The theme was "Where it all beings... Again". So The PPV opened with Vince, Shane, and Shane's newborn son Deacon (who presumably will eventually run the company in several decades), so privacy is not an issue here. We mention family members in other articles (like Honky Tonk Man's page mentions that he is Jerry Lawler's cousin). Eddie Guerrero's page mentions his nephew Chavo Jr. (in fact, most of the Guerrero articles mention them all). Bret Hart's page mentions two of his nephews (Teddy Hart and Harry Smith) and niece (Natayla). There may be others, but those are off the top of my head. TJ Spyke 22:33, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Came from Third opinion page: What's the usefulness of keeping the names of the extended relatives? Seems like a bad idea, infringes on privacy, no value for the reader, and most of all infringes BLP. Unrelated: Here's something to read.--Asdfg12345 02:02, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

About TJ Spyke's remarks: I think that's okay, and if the nephews or nieces are mentioned in some appropriate context where it is normal to mention them, then there is not an issue, right? but if it was just a random mention with no context, or a list, it seems it would be better to avoid gratuitously providing that information.--Asdfg12345 02:13, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
I would feel that Shane's son being mentioned is okay in Shane's article; but what's the usefulness of mentioning it here? This article about Triple H gains nothing from knowing his nieces and nephews names. As for User:TJ Spyke's examples of other relatives being mentioned in Wikipedia pages, Jerry Lawler, Chavo Jr. and Bret Hart's nephews and nieces are all wrestlers; they're not minor children, they are notable as such. The nieces and nephews of Triple H, however, are not notable celebrities, they're just kids.
Also in response to Asdfg's question, the context of Triple H's nieces and nephews being listed didn't really exist, other than, "He's an uncle too: these are his nieces and nephews. You can see a diff here which shows how they were mentioned, here I had no idea I'd get such a pushback in removing them, as I thought it was a pretty minor thing to have in the article, and therefore a trivial thing to remove. Raven1977Talk to meMy edits 17:00, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
  • sighs*... I have to agree with Raven1977. Remove the nieces and nephews, they are not notable, at least not here. Feedback 22:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment, Another thing to consider here is that in the case of the other wrestling families mentioned, the children are notable independently of the family. Is Lynn? No. Are her kids? No. I definitely think her kids names should be removed. They aren't celebrities, and neither is their mother, and they having nothing do with the wrestling business whatsoever. Also, Triple H isn't even blood related to Shane's sons. I have no problem with Shane's sons being listed on Stephanie McMahon's page and her kids on Shane's page because it is a family business. However, Shane's kids really don't have much to do with Triple H. Nikki311 01:00, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

You guys wanted a third guy to vote? well, if you ask me, id say that they have children, and sex, and age and all that, same with nieces and nephews, but leave there names out of it, its gonna be hard enough for them growing up being harrased... etc.--Dr. Pizza (talk) 01:34, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Kind of hard when WWE themselves announced the births (and their names) right on their website. TJ Spyke 00:10, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Of Lynn's kids? Nikki311 02:00, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Even if you do have names and details announced elsewhere are they relevant in any way? Do the appear in any wrestling event? are they notorious in their own right in any fashion? Until they do something or are involved in something (say a custody dispute, for instance) I think it suffices to say that he has nephews and that's it. 83.174.61.58 (talk) 11:48, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Move To Smackdown (2008-present) 4(Triple h def John cena)[edit]

Triple H's clean defeat of john cena in 2008 should be noted.I saw the argument against,which was that some title defenses in 2008 were not "notable".Clearly defeating john cena is very NOTE WORTHY. john cena is booked very strongly and very rarely has been defeated in a 1-1 on match.Its quite disapointing that the person who moderates this article is making strange excuses to add a simple 9 characters to the tag line of title defenses for triple h in his 2008 title reign.

1-its notable 2-adding cenas name is only 9 characters —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.191.121.84 (talk) 19:21, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

  • Nobody is "moderating" this article. The article is semi-protected because it's a frequent target for vandalism, which means that IP addresses and accounts that haven't been confirmed yet can't edit at the moment. Any responses you see to suggestions on the talk page are usually just from other editors who have the article on their watchlist and those with accounts are trying to make decisions on whether to add the suggestions based on their understanding of Wikipedia policies. That being said, it's hard to say which match is or isn't notable, but having looked at the sentence you're talking about, I don't think any of the names he defended the title against are really needed, so Cenas isn't necessary either. If you feel strongly enough on the matter, perhaps a source which states the importance of the defense against Cena would help those of us who disagree see your side of things. Raven1977Talk to meMy edits 16:04, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

HHH win at WM25[edit]

Is it notable that its his first win at WM since WM19 Supermike (talk) 10:44, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Not really. Its seems POVish. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:05, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Controversy[edit]

What ever happened to the controversy section that was on this page? I remember there being one, but I could be mistaken. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.144.179.34 (talk) 05:29, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

You're not mistaken, but the controversy section was too controversial. Ahem.

"Controversy" is a weasel word, and what is controversial to one person is not to another, also from what I can recall it lacked any credible references. Darrenhusted (talk) 13:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

The controversy section was for HHH and Jeff Jarrett as well. HHH for his ties with the McMahon family for being top guy constantly on Raw. JJ had this section for being the NWA champion all the time while he owned TNA. So although it had no credible references, that was the common viewpoint. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.125.178.111 (talk) 03:37, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Not Inactive[edit]

while triple h is not showing up on the LIVE raw shown on TV he is being promoted for house shows in july and it's being promoted that he will face orton and batista in a triple treat match at a raw event sourses? watch smackdown it promotes them there 82.21.192.131 (talk) 17:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

What happens at house shows is generally not notable, unless a title changes hands. That WWE are promoting a house show with Orton, Batista and HHH in May for two months ahead is not a surprise, they want to sell tickets, however at this moment in time HHH is not on WWE TV, therefore he is currently inactive. This is not July, in July I suspect he will be active again. Darrenhusted (talk) 18:11, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

My time Rap version( The Game)[edit]

There is a unused theme which is the original version the Game theme it is also credited as the My Time Rap Remix and it should be added to his list of themes aswell. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Khooks314 (talkcontribs) 23:56, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Entrance Music[edit]

I know this is only a small issue, but just want to mention that maybe Triple H's time using Mr. McMahon's "No Chance" theme should be mentioned. He used it during his time in The Corporation, as evident in this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w4NlUSKSC4&feature=related —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.44.137.18 (talk) 22:49, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

King of Kings[edit]

The header for the 2007 return area is "King of Kings"... however, Triple H and his King of Kings gimmick was before the DX reunion in 2006... it started on the road to wrestlemania... and that was when it was most marketed... when he wore the KOK attire, when he used the KOK song/tron for non-wrestling appearences... infact.. at WM22, he came out in the whole King of Kings garb. I think that the gimmick deserves some mention on where it actually took place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.46.23.220 (talk) 04:48, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

HHH is Not On Raw[edit]

If you look at triple H's Page Then You will see that it clearly says Triple H is in RAW! HHH is actually in Smackdown Not Raw and I was unable to edit it because it was semi protected so I say to whats his name creator of Wikipedia change the page because it is incorrect!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.223.149.238 (talk) 21:06, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Triple H is on raw, he was drafted. That's why DX is unified Tag Team Champs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.116.57.122 (talk) 20:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

New section heading[edit]

I think that we now need a new header, the latest one is "Feud with The Legacy and DX reunion (2009–present)".

As the Legacy feuded dissolved last year and HBK is now retired; neither of these are current. Mark handscombe (talk) 19:13, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

triple h signature move crossface[edit]

no mention of the arm trap crossface triple h uses from time to time as a submission. not sure of the times used but wrestlemania 24 is one of themRl1981 (talk) 09:43, 5 May 2010 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rl1981 (talkcontribs) 08:08, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

third child[edit]

Triple H & Steph welcomed their 3rd daughter just the other day, can someone please add! 88.108.80.57 (talk) 16:19, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

They named her Vaughn Evelyn Levesque. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.152.77 (talk) 11:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Loopyluap, 8 June 2010[edit]

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Triple H is currently filming a new movie " Killing Karma " release date is in 2010,this is the reason he is not an active member of the WWE roster.

Loopyluap (talk) 02:03, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Tim Pierce (talk) 02:46, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

heres a website http://www.themovieinsider.com/m6978/killing-karma/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wjmdem (talkcontribs) 04:26, 2 November 2010 (UTC)


the movie killing karma was renamed inside out prove the cast and summery of both http://www.movieinsider.com/m6978/killing-karma/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Out_%282011_film%29

Editsemiprotected request[edit]

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Please change Hunter Hearst Helmsley (HHH) to Hunter Hearst Helmsley in the Infobox. There's no mention of HHH at that <ref> (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCO/is_2_4/ai_88761521/). Thanks. 58.10.65.22 (talk) 12:56, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Question: showing the initials after the name doesn't seem like a thing which requires sourcing. Is there another reason to remove these? They seem helpful to some readers who may not connect triple-H to the Helmsley name without the middle step. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 15:28, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Third daughter[edit]

Paul & Stephanie had their third child, a girl, weeks ago. Why does Wikipedia keep removing this fact? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.78.238.139 (talk) 10:00, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

There was this same problem on Steph's page for a while, but I think I've gotten it to stick now there so I'm trying the same thing here. Unfortunately, there isn't a "reliable source" for the date, only that they have three daughters. So that's the best I've been able to do. Mysticalone27 (talk) 02:26, 1 November 2010 (UTC)


If you listen to this interview, he finally gives the name of the third baby - it's Vaughn - http://rxmuscle.com/hmr-radio-show.html This needs to be added already.  :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.98.170.27 (talk) 11:02, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Triple H stated in an interview that his third daughter's name is Vaughn Evelyn. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.156.158.200 (talk) 03:59, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Managers[edit]

I'm not going to make an edit to the article, because I'm just wondering about this. Could Paul Bearer be considered a former manager of Triple H due to his membership in the Corporate Ministry? John (talk) 23:25, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Personal Info?[edit]

Uh, where'd all the personal info go? I'm assuming it was deleted by one of the waves of trollers, and was overlooked somehow? I think we seriously should consider locking this page. Sherick (talk) 04:45, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

It was most likely anon user but seems you have already fixed it anyway.--Steam Iron 05:01, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Citation # 5[edit]

This citation seems to be in the wrong place. Has some information been deleted and the source was deleted with it? Just curious. (MgTurtle (talk) 21:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC))

Lucha De Apuesta chart is completely unnecessary[edit]

Who added the completely meaningless "Lucha De Apuesta" chart which contains results of 3 random matches he had? Please remove it. It serves NO purpose whatsoever. 69.224.41.3 (talk) 23:28, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

fans apperiation day[edit]

he made a one-day return at fans apperciation day by beating albert del rio why not add it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.100.146.210 (talk) 17:26, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

You got a source that states he did this?--SteamIron 17:38, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


It was on the wwe website and the wwe mobile news 97.100.146.210 (talk) 21:32, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 71.98.170.27, 5 January 2011[edit]

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Please change his two daughters to three. This interview gives the name of his third daughter - it's Vaughn. http://rxmuscle.com/hmr-radio-show.html He gives the origins of his daughter's names.

71.98.170.27 (talk) 11:09, 5 January 2011 (UTC) Already doneIt already says three daughters in the personal life section; is there somewhere else that it says only 2? As for the third daughter's name, I'm not sure that that reference is reliable; any chance you have a written (rather than a "radio") source? Qwyrxian (talk) 10:00, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Have added a contradiction tag [1]. Someone want to get this sorted out? --jjron (talk) 14:50, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Add current potrayal to all wrestlers wikipedia.[edit]

I think its clear and good thing to add current potrayal to all wrestlers wikis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.248.181.3 (talk) 12:38, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Please change his WWE.com profile link to this: http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/tripleh/bio/ Sportsfan97501 (talk) 00:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't there be some sort of "main-stream appearance" section for Triple H?[edit]

Triple H has been primarily featured in many commercials, movies, and TV appearances. Shouldn't there be a section on that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.186.22.249 (talk) 06:59, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Return before Wrestlemania XXVII[edit]

Triple H was interviewed via radio and revealed that he will definitely return before WresteMania[90].

Must read:

Triple H was interviewed via radio and revealed that he will definitely return before Wrestlemania XXVII[90].

Molax (talk) 01:00, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

I heard he's supposed to retire after this Wrestlemania. Can anyone confirm this?[[File:--76.216.122.136 (talk) 02:08, 1 March 2011 (UTC)Example.jpg]]

Edit request from 92.232.6.223, 22 February 2011[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}} someone has typed the same thing twice

92.232.6.223 (talk) 00:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Please state exactly what is duplicated, so that we can know what to correct. Thanks. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Ode to Joy[edit]

Didn't Triple H use Ode to Joy as his entrance music back in the '90s? 108.21.74.170 (talk) 21:25, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Championship Error[edit]

Triple H is only technically a 22 time champion, as when he was Unified Tag Team Champion with Shawn Michaels, that did not count as him holding the WWE Tag Team Championiship and the World Tag Team Championship at that time. Can we change this so that it says Unified Tag Champion once with Shawn Michaels, instead of a second reign of the World Tag, and the one reign of the WWE Tag. If you need a source look at Triple H's WWE website page, look at the stats, it'll say he was a World Tag Team Champion (Stone Cold) and a Unified Tag Team Champion. So please change this.--92.232.177.0 (talk) 16:16, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

"WWE Chairman"[edit]

It is absolutely ridiculous to put in the opening of the article that he's the CEO of WWE. It's called a storyline, people! He does work in the office now and is being groomed to take over from Vince McMahon, however a storyling on a TV show does not prove it to be fact that he's in charge of the company. Therefore I have deleted this piece of misinformation and will continue to delete unless the highly unlikely scenario occurs that it is proven that he is in fact the true CEO of the company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.70.175 (talk) 04:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


Good idea whoever put that he's the storyline CEO, that's a much better idea than just deleting it :-D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.70.175 (talk) 19:41, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

For Whom the Bell Tolls??[edit]

Triple H hadn't used this one at WM XXVII he used his regular theme "The Game" — Preceding unsigned comment added by MDsgk (talkcontribs) 14:19, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


Stop trolling, he did use For Whom The Bell Tolls... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_48M1L_i2-o BlueChainsawMan (talk) 14:49, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Chief Operating Officer[edit]

In the storyline, it wasn't originally announced what he's titles would be, nor did it precisely state that he would be "Chairman and CEO". However, WWE Raw gives his new title as "Chief Operating Officer", which is inline with day-to-day stuff that he said last week. No mention of "Chairman" or "CEO".--Tærkast (Discuss) 12:25, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

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Really?[edit]

Is the WrestleMania section really needed? It doesn't seem to fit in the article, there isn't anything remarkable about his win-loss record, and it just seems pretty pointless. Granted he has performed at a lot of them, but I think that could be better presented as a sentence or two. 67.181.76.194 (talk) 07:54, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Nope, there is no need for it and I will delete it any time I get the chance as it is clear WP:LISTCRUFT. Tony2Times (talk) 21:32, 4 December 2011 (UTC)


wheres the walkout[edit]

In the text it says "After repeated attacks from these wrestlers in various matches, the majority of WWE's on-screen staff gave Triple H a vote of no confidence" They forgot to put, by walking out of the building, after cofindence — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wweguy213 (talkcontribs) 16:05, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

the topic is about john the one in charge of raw and smackdown[edit]

the date is 4/14/2012 3.21 pm im asking please please get rid of john laranitis sorry my spelling stinks but u no who im talking about he really is letting that job tittle go to his head i get were i don,t care if i watch it anymore because of him hes a lying back staving cowerd they said u made mistakes and to many people were getting hert while u were in charge cut whit john in charge hes making people get hert by his actions teddy does better then him i think teddy needs to be in charge of raw and smack down thank u — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.129.11.175 (talk) 19:37, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

2000 Face Turn?[edit]

The article completely skips HHH's feud with Kurt Angle over Stephanie and his subsequent brief face run (culminating with him being soundly cheered when facing Chris Benoit at No Mercy 2000). I figured that this was pretty important. 86.45.60.35 (talk) 05:00, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Being cheered doesn't necessarily make you a face, especially in the Attitude Era, but you're right that the love triangle is quite an omission on the page. It's more important to Steph and Kurt but it should be touched upon here. Tony2Times (talk) 10:12, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

moon[edit]

The English proper name for Earth's natural satellite is "the Moon".[9][10] The noun moon derives from moone (around 1380), which developed from mone (1135), which derives from Old English mōna (dating from before 725), which, like all Germanic language cognates, ultimately stems from Proto-Germanic *mǣnōn.[11]

The principal modern English adjective pertaining to the Moon is lunar, derived from the Latin Luna. Another less common adjective is selenic, derived from the Ancient Greek Selene (Σελήνη), from which the pricle is about Earth's Moon. For moons in general, see Natural satellite. For other uses, see Moon (disambiguation). The Moon Moon symbol Full moon in the darkness of the night sky. It is patterned with a mix of light-tone regions and darker, irregular blotches, and scattered with varying sizes of impact craters, circles surrounded by out-thrown rays of bright ejecta. Full moon as seen from Earth's northern hemisphere Designations Adjective lunar, selenic Orbital characteristics Perigee 362,570 km (0.0024 AU) (356,400–370,400 km) Apogee 405,410 km (0.0027 AU) (404,000–406,700 km) Semi-major axis 384,399 km (0.00257 AU)[1] Eccentricity 0.0549[1] Orbital period 27.321582 d (27 d 7 h 43.1 min[1]) Synodic period 29.530589 d (29 d 12 h 44 min 2.9 s) Average orbital speed 1.022 km/s Inclination 5.145° to the ecliptic[2] (between 18.29° and 28.58° to Earth's equator)[1] Longitude of ascending node regressing by one revolution in 18.6 years Argument of perigee progressing by one revolution in 8.85 years Satellite of Earth Physical characteristics Mean radius 1,737.10 km (0.273 Earths)[1][3] Equatorial radius 1,738.14 km (0.273 Earths)[3] Polar radius 1,735.97 km (0.273 Earths)[3] Flattening 0.00125 Circumference 10,921 km (equatorial) Surface area 3.793 × 107 km2 (0.074 Earths) Volume 2.1958 × 1010 km3 (0.020 Earths) Mass 7.3477 × 1022 kg (0.0123 Earths[1]) Mean density 3.3464 g/cm3[1] Equatorial surface gravity 1.622 m/s2 (0.165 4 g) Escape velocity 2.38 km/s Sidereal rotation period 27.321582 d (synchronous) Equatorial rotation velocity 4.627 m/s Axial tilt 1.5424° (to ecliptic) 6.687° (to orbit plane)[2] Albedo 0.136[4] Surface temp.

  equator
  85°N[5]       

min mean max 100 K 220 K 390 K 70 K 130 K 230 K Apparent magnitude −2.5 to −12.9[a] −12.74 (mean full moon)[3] Angular diameter 29.3 to 34.1 arcminutes[3][b] Atmosphere[6][c] Surface pressure 10−7 Pa (day) 10−10 Pa (night) Composition Ar, He, Na, K, H, Rn

The Moon is the only natural satellite of the Earth,[d][7] and the fifth largest satellite in the Solar System. It is the largest natural satellite of a planet in the Solar System relative to the size of its primary, having a quarter the diameter of Earth but only 1⁄81 its mass.[e] The Moon is the second densest satellite after Io, a satellite of Jupiter. It is in synchronous rotation with Earth, always showing the same face with its near side marked by dark volcanic maria that fill between the bright ancient crustal highlands and the prominent impact craters. The Moon is the brightest object in the sky after the Sun, although its surface is actually very dark, with a reflectance similar to that of coal. Its prominence in the sky and its regular cycle of phases have, since ancient times, made the Moon an important cultural influence on language, calendars, art and mythology. The Moon's gravitational influence produces the ocean tides and the minute lengthening of the day. The Moon's current orbital distance, about thirty times the diameter of the Earth, causes it to appear almost the same size in the sky as the Sun, allowing it to cover the Sun nearly precisely in total solar eclipses.

The Moon is the only celestial body other than Earth on which humans have set foot. The Soviet Union's Luna programme was the first to reach the Moon with unmanned spacecraft in 1959; the United States' NASA Apollo program achieved the only manned missions to date, beginning with the first manned lunar orbiting mission by Apollo 8 in 1968, and six manned lunar landings between 1969 and 1972, with the first being Apollo 11. These missions returned over 380 kg of lunar rocks, which have been used to develop a geological understanding of the Moon's origins, the formation of its internal structure, and its subsequent history. It is thought to have formed some 4.5 billion years ago. One formation theory is a giant impact event involving Earth. The impact theory was called into question in 2012, after re-analysis of Apollo samples.[8]

After the Apollo 17 mission in 1972, the Moon has been visited only by unmanned spacecraft, notably by the final Soviet Lunokhod rover. Since 2004, Japan, China, India, the United States, and the European Space Agency have each sent lunar orbiters. These spacecraft have contributed to confirming the discovery of lunar water ice in permanently shadowed craters at the poles and bound into the lunar regolith. Future manned missions to the Moon have been planned, including government as well as privately funded efforts. The Moon remains, under the Outer Space Treaty, free to all nations to explore for peaceful purposes. Evolution of the Moon.ogv The evolution of the Moon and a tour of the Moon. Contents

   1 Name and etymology
   2 Formation
   3 Physical characteristicsefix "seleno-" (as in selenography) is derived.[12]

Formation Main article: Giant impact hypothesis Shrinking, Growing Moon.ogv Explore what the discovery of lunar valleys tells us about the moon's evolution.

Several mechanisms have been proposed for the Moon's formation 4.527 ± 0.010 billion years ago,[f] some 30–50 million years after the origin of the Solar System.[13] These included the fission of the Moon from the Earth's crust through centrifugal force,[14] which would require too great an initial spin of the Earth,[15] the gravitational capture of a pre-formed Moon,[16] which would require an unfeasibly extended atmosphere of the Earth to dissipate the energy of the passing Moon,[15] and the co-formation of the Earth and the Moon together in the primordial accretion disk, which does not explain the depletion of metallic iron in the Moon.[15] These hypotheses also cannot account for the high angular momentum of the Earth–Moon system.[17]

The prevailing hypothesis today is that the Earth–Moon system formed as a result of a giant impact: a Mars-sized body hitting the newly formed proto-Earth, blasting material into orbit around it, which accreted to form the Moon.[18] Giant impacts are thought to have been common in the early Solar System. Computer simulations modelling a giant impact are consistent with measurements of the angular momentum of the Earth–Moon system and the small size of the lunar core; they also show that most of the Moon came from the impactor, not from the proto-Earth.[19] More recent tests suggest more of the Moon coalesced from the Earth and not the impactor.[20][21][22] Meteorites show that other inner Solar System bodies such as Mars and Vesta have very different oxygen and tungsten isotopic compositions to the Earth, while the Earth and Moon have near-identical isotopic compositions. Post-impact mixing of the vaporized material between the forming Earth and Moon could have equalized their isotopic compositions,[23] although this is debated.[24]

The large amount of energy released in the giant impact event and the subsequent reaccretion of material in Earth orbit would have melted the outer shell of the Earth, forming a magma ocean.[25][26] The newly formed Moon would also have had its own lunar magma ocean; estimates for its depth range from about 500 km to the entire radius of the Moon.[25]

Published in 2012, an analysis of titanium isotopes in Apollo lunar samples showed that the Moon has the same composition as the Earth,[8] which conflicts with the moon forming far from Earth's orbit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed0909 (talkcontribs) 23:01, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

What on 'Earth' does that have to do with Triple H? Kane (talk) 05:44, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Retirement[edit]

In an article on WWE.com, it clearly states 'Following his farewell address on Raw'.[1] Can this be considered enough of a source to officially say that he has retired? Kane (talk) 05:44, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

In the article it also only states that it is "a farewell of sorts" and he is "SEEMINGLY capping his epic in ring career" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.219.46 (talk) 18:16, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

ADITYA JAISWAR[edit]

ADITYA JAISWAR Adityajaiswar (talk) 09:51, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Not done: no changes required. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 11:46, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 September 2012[edit]

under the header McMahon- Helmsley Era (2000-2001) there is a part that mentions the Royal Rumble Street Fight Match....there is a bit after that where an H should be added as it is part of Triple H's in ring name name and well the H isn't there and the sentence is (well partial sentence): "which Triple won after doing two pedigrees on Foley." so you see where the H should be added... Jloughry1976 (talk) 15:29, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Done. Seems minor and uncontroversial. —KuyaBriBriTalk 21:12, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 April 2013[edit]

Overall, Levesque has won 23 championships in WWE. He is a thirteen-time world champion (a company record shared with John Cena) having won the WWF/E Championship eight times, and the World Heavyweight Championship five times, with the majority of those reigns being self-booked.[8][9]

The bold part should be removed since the sources provided did not say this and there are no other reliable sources to support the statement. 171.98.56.98 (talk) 17:57, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Done per WP:BLP and WP:V. —KuyaBriBriTalk 20:47, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 June 2013[edit]

101.214.105.11 (talk) 19:47, 13 June 2013 (UTC) please upload triple h latest photo

Not done: Vague requests to add, update, modify, or improve an image are generally not honored unless you can point to a specific image already uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons that you would like included on this article. Please note that any image used on any Wikipedia article must comply with the Wikipedia image use policy, particularly where copyright is concerned. —KuyaBriBriTalk 20:51, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request[edit]

change vandalism on first paragraph of page

I don't see it, so it's hopefully been fixed. If not, open a new request stating specifically what is wrong. RudolfRed (talk) 04:31, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on November 3, 2013[edit]

The third paragraph of the article contains the phrase "Together as a power couple, they reek havoc over the company". "Reek" is a misspelling, the correct spelling would be "wreak". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.172.13.248 (talkcontribs) 05:51, 5 November 2013‎

Done with thanks, NiciVampireHeart 06:27, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Request regarding File:Triple H WWE Champion 2008.jpg[edit]

I apologize if this is not in your project's language:

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Sincerely, Sven Manguard Wha? 17:38, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

{Edit semi-protected} Incorrect information.[edit]

This is the last line under "Personal life" for Paul Levesque (Triple H)

"On Monday July 21 of raw his wife Stephanie McMahon got arrested for slapping ,battery against Brie Bella for no reason just because Brie bout a ticket as a fan in the front row."

The event mentioned was part of a storyline within WWE, it should not be mentioned as though it was anything other than part of a storyline. It is also poorly worded and some words have been misspelled. — Preceding unsigned comment added by X54 KIll 'em all (talkcontribs) 21:41, 22 July 2014

Steve Austin interview regarding Chyna[edit]

I think this should be mentioned, as Triple H has also done a follow-up denial of Chyna accusing him of hitting her. I'm just not sure where... business career or personal life?

We should also mention how the Seth Rollins drama from the same night contrasts it per this:

Any good refs regarding the HoF interview and assault denials? Ranze (talk) 09:34, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Convolution of Fact and Fiction: Use of Competitive Language[edit]

As far as I am aware "professional wrestling" is a show not a competition. In this article however, there are phrases such as "winning his first WWF Championship," "he would win a total of 13 world championships," "he defeated Bob Holly." This seems to suggest that Triple H competed when (as far as I am aware) he performed. Is it appropriate to use the language of the show? The article would be appropriate for a fictional character, such as Bilbo Baggins. But this is an article about a person, which seems to convolute fact and fiction. Timtak (talk) 12:36, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Paul Levesque performs. When he does, Triple H actually (fictionally) competes. Levesque's like a puppeteer who lives inside his only puppet. Triple H doesn't even know Levesque exists. It's totally normal. Just need to use the right name for the right thing. A little confusing with guys like John Cena (AKA John Cena). InedibleHulk (talk) 18:31, January 25, 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 December 2015[edit]

2.96.35.65 (talk) 22:49, 2 December 2015 (UTC) Triple H has had a major amount of backstage heat on him ever since his debut however he started getting major heat when he befriended Shawn Michaels (hated at the time) and joined the Kliq. Chris Jericho and Bret Hart hated Triple H during their time with the company. Ref: What.culture.com

Not done It's not clear where you want this content added, it would require a more reliable source to substantiate the claims of hatred, and the tone ("getting major heat" in particular) is too conversational. Thanks, /wia /tlk 03:59, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Personal life needs a minor edit[edit]

Since Lemmy of Motorhead is dead now, personal life needs to be changed to "was good friends with him"

Nathanstar0494 (talk) 18:05, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done clpo13(talk) 18:09, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

14-time WWE World Heavyweight Champion[edit]

We have an official statement from WWE worth considering folks:

"WWE World Heavyweight Championship - Triple H". WWE.com. 24 January 2016. Archived from the original on 25 January 2016. Triple H became a 14-time WWE World Heavyweight Champion at the 2016 Royal Rumble. 

Why do we merely call him a "14-time WWE world champion" in spite of the evidence? 184.145.18.50 (talk) 13:24, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Because this is the WWE World Heavyweight Championship. WWE likes to pretend a lot of things happened a lot of ways. Nevermind the titles, they once erased an entire World Heavyweight Champion. I think his name was Doug. Had a wolverine or something. That's why wrestling fans write stuff down and why Wikipedia prefers independent secondary sources. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:48, January 25, 2016 (UTC)

Hi, as a disclaimer so I don't get unwarranted WP:SOCK accusations, the above IP was me editing on a tablet I don't bother logging in to.

@InedibleHulk: the thing is, who gets to be champion is inherently the WWE pretending things happen a certain way. It is why even if we know some guy cheated to win, we can't override referee/company decisions on the matter.

You linked to a Wikipedia article, need I remind you WP:WINARS ? We are merely tertiary so linking to our (arguably WRONG) page about the WWE World Heavyweight Championship is not any sort of argument. Our articles are meant to conform to meet the facts. What "The History of WWE" says is irrelevant, company statements override this. Ranze (talk) 03:08, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

  • Dude Ranze, I get where you're coming from but I gotta be real with you - I'm coming out of semi-retirement for this thing - so lets shoot for a swift resolve to this little misconception you have going on. What you are looking at and obsessing about is a nomenclature issue. Lets establish two things Ranze; 1. According to WWE.com/ the WWE Encyclopedia/ and other official media, the title currently known as the WWE World Heavyweight Championship has its history clearly defined by its list of title holders. 2. According to WWE.com/ the WWE Encyclopedia/ and other official media, the title that existed from 2002-2013 known simply as the World Heavyweight Championship also has its history clearly defined by its list of title holders. We can agree this is fact correct?
  • Now as it relates to this article, and now that we've established the two previous facts, lets look at the number of reigns Triple H has listed under the WWE World Heavyweight Championship. We clearly see he has had 9 reigns with this particular title. Fantastic! We have our number of title reigns under this particular championship. But now this thing we're dealing with isn't over is it? See, WWE hasn't always had one sole world heavyweight title. In fact it's had about 5. Its most recently retired one happens to be known simply as the World Heavyweight Championship and it existed between 2002 and 2013. Once again as it relates to this article, lets count the number of reigns Triple H has had with that particular title. We clearly see he has had 5 reigns with this particular title. Now I'm not going to insult your intelligence and ask you to add but we can clearly see that Triple H has been, according to WWE, a 14-time world champion under its promotion.
  • With that established, you contend that WWE's online periodicals referring to Triple H as a 14-time WWE World Heavyweight Champion cements him or any other individual in a similar spot, like some of the ones you attempted to list in previous versions of another article, as having held the WWE World Heavyweight championship (the title we described from the 1st fact) a total of 14 times. Here is why you need to thoroughly reevaluate that standpoint.
  • After laying out the 2 facts at the start of my nice little essay, we clearly see we have 2 separate histories of 2 titles, defined by a list of title holders for each of the 2 titles we talked about. Each list is essentially a record of history, in that the names that are noted on each list, however number of times, denotes the champion and accounts for each of their reigns. So, due to us clearly seeing that Triple H has held the WWE World Heavyweight Championship 9 times, there is no way anyone can correctly denote Triple has having held that particular title any more number of times within the context of Wikipedia (unless of course he actually wins that title a few more times).
  • Why within the context of Wikipedia? Well mainly its policies. Here's why. Promotional Nomenclature. What we have with the whole 14-time fiasco written within WWE online periodicals and heard on commentary is simply promotional terminology, that is WWE-centric term-use operated upon for whatever reason. We can talk about these reasons but that would be irrelevant. Whatever their reason, whether it be to go about a simplistic approach in telling their history by calling all holders of two world titles one umbrella term, it really doesn't matter. What matters is identifying this terminology for what it is. Within the context of Wikipedia content policy WP:PROMO, we simply cannot follow suit and use that terminology. Articles simply cannot be written to read like it came directly from a company memo. With as many times as WWE's online periodicals and announcers follow company mandate and use their in-house terminology, its all irrelevant as it pertains to the terminology used here.
  • Thus, with the facts we established at the start of this long ass response, knowing there are 2 separate titles we are talking about here, each recording its list of champions by which their histories are defined, we can unequivocally state as it pertains to Triple H, that he is in fact currently a 9-time holder of the WWE World Heavyweight Championship. Haha of course having been here long enough, I'm prepared for the possibility of finding you to claim some sort of fault with the things I've laid out for. That's awesome too. To that I say, bring it on. I'll be happy to help you along the way. --UnquestionableTruth-- 06:40, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
@3bulletproof16: aka UnquestionableTruth, this is Ranze logged out, will respond in parts to you here.
  1. According to WWE.com/ the WWE Encyclopedia/ and other official media, the title currently known as the WWE World Heavyweight Championship has its history clearly defined by its list of title holders.
  2. According to WWE.com/ the WWE Encyclopedia/ and other official media, the title that existed from 2002-2013 known simply as the World Heavyweight Championship also has its history clearly defined by its list of title holders. We can agree this is fact correct?
Our disagreement is a subtle one. It actually is not entirely defined by that table or chart of title holders. It defers to displaying the longer history of the WWE Championship which goes back to the WWF Championship, but while it is A list of title holders it is not THE list of title holders. As the page clearly states, the title has a MERGED LINEAGE. What this means is that the lineage of your second link is also part of the same lineage. It is a branched lineage. All people in that lineage are WWE World Heavyweight Championships. That is why the WWE is calling Trips 14-time and not 9-time in respect to the unified title. It is why they do the same for Sheamus and Orton and Cena. Rock is a whole other matter involving WCW-Word so maybe we can stick with these 4 for now and deal with him later.
Basically the problem is, you are not reading the facts of the chart correctly, you are only looking at the chart but not its context, a page which clearly says the lineages of the two titles are merged, so you also have to consider the lineage of World Heavyweight Championship reigns to be the lineage of the WWE World Heavyweight Championship as well.
Your dismissal of multiple conflicting numbers to your interpretation is OR. You are not expert enough to know whether the numbers should be dismissed as false and misleading promotional nomenclature or not. You do not have an authority to grant that authority to the table yet dismiss the authority from elsewhere when it all comes from the same source. Plus the table itself links to the page calling trips 14-time, it is effectively PART of the table, it is tied to it, you cannot toss it. --184.145.18.50 (talk) 06:58, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Uh no... it is in fact the list of title holders. The issue here Ranze, and one that is clear you are unaware of is how far your inductive leap is going. You take a statement like "the titles have a merged lineage" and somehow stretch it to the point where you have stated just now that there is a separate unlisted history of title holders not tangibly listed anywhere else. That is the fault in your reasoning Ranze and one that you need to reevaluate before this gets out of hand. A simple dictionary will tell you that the word lineage means a line of descendants, not an articulated list of subjects collected under a specified category. You are really stretching this one out Ranze and its not something you can easily convince anyone with a proper understanding of word usage to agree with you. --UnquestionableTruth-- 07:14, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Also it can totally be tossed through WP:PROMO Ranze. Come on man, I know there's some good reasoning in you.--UnquestionableTruth-- 07:38, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
The list you are relying on to make your argument has a sub-page on it calling Triple H a 14-time champion. I don't see how you can logically selectively dismiss 1 aspect of the title history section of the website while not dismissing the other and not see the hypocrisy there. WP:PROMO is for stuff like "Kane is a demon" or "Undertaker is a dead man". Obviously some stuff is cruft. The company's ongoing consistent count of how many championships someone has following a certain pattern is not promo, it is simply how they tabulate things.
The first WWE World Heavyweight Champion was Randy Orton. People before him were not called that. They were retroactively called this due to a shared lineage. We have been shown consistently when people who become a WWE World Heavyweight Champion in multiple instances that it is not exclusively WWE Championship reigns which contribute to this count. WWE cites were provided for Sheamus, Orton, Hunter and Cena in that regard. 184.145.18.50 (talk) 11:13, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Ranze logged out again here. @Oknazevad: I think we ought to reflect on what SYNTH actually is. The title page you reverted my edits on says -Triple H, who is in his ninth reign.- for example. There is no source listed for it. That sounds like synth to me. On the other hand if this were changed to -Triple H, who is in his fourteenth reign.- it would not be synth because you are literally just adapting the sentence -Triple H became a 14-time WWE World Heavyweight Champion- from the sources. Special:Diff/701720369 removed reliably sourced information. Please identify what you think -original conclusions- are here. I literally provided exact quotes from the WWE stating different numbers for these 5 guys, most recently trips being described as 14-time WWEWHWC.

The actual OR, the actual SYNTH, is ignoring the primary sources and Wikipedians making up numbers because they think they can interpret a chart. Us printing what the WWE tells us is the reign count: reliably sourced statements. Us printing what we think is the tally but actually conflicts with sources: is OR.

This has been an incredibly conservative attempt by comparison. I am not even suggesting we scrub and re-work all the numbers, just point out that WWE is giving us at least 5 reign totals for Sheamus-Rock-Orton-HHH-Cena which conflict with our numbers.

I do not understand why you insist on hiding this. I am not seeing the more reliable data saying otherwise. This is not a sole anomaly, 5 times is a recurring pattern of new WWE World Heavyweight Champions whose World Heavyweight Championship reigns (in case of 4) or WCW Championship aka World Championship reign (The Rock) are being counted.

This is not to say everyone views it that way, but when WWE sources are saying this, we need to pay notice.

What usually gets cited for what counts as a WWE World Heavyweight Championship reign is http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehistory/wwe-world-heavyweight-championship as if that section of the web site holds some kind of special authorty.

Visit that page, scroll to the bottom of the chart, click -Triple H- and it brings you to http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehistory/wwe-world-heavyweight-championship/20160124-triple-h

That is where it says -Triple H became a 14-time WWE World Heavyweight Champion at the 2016 Royal Rumble.-

It does not matter if you page back to the previous page and Ctrl+F to find the string -Triple- and only get 9 returns in the left column. Anyone who uses that observation to conclude he is merely a 9-time champ is engaging in original research, because they view themselves as some kind of chart interpretation experts.

They are not experts because in doing so they ignore the -merged lineage- disclaimer on the same page which tells us to also merge the World Heavyweight Championship chart too.

Doing so gives 6 more to HHH and brings him to 14, matching up with the statement. This is not OR at all, it is cited research. OR is ignoring reliable sources and saying 9 even though no reliable sources are calling him 9-time and it conflicts with the evidence. --184.145.18.50 (talk) 06:49, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

The sheer irony by which your logic flies is something else, I'll tell you that. I mean for someone to start naming others as unqualified chart reading experts for reading what is plainly written on a list and then go off on their own interpretation of a list accounting for some intangible information adding X's and O's where there aren't any is pretty funny. And just to let you know, your understanding of WP:OR is also very off. As it relates to promotional terminology like "14-time WWE World Heavyweight Champion," even if especially if its from a primary source, when it is the subject of what you are trying to cite, it comes into conflict with WP:PROMO, by which point, we aren't even talking about a WP:RS issue.--UnquestionableTruth-- 07:22, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Precisely. It's pretty obvious that WWE is using the single phrase when talking about the combined history of both titles as it's easier to promote; calling someone a 14-time champion sounds impressive. But the key word is promote. We can't just parrot WWE's promotional language; that goes against multiple Wikipedia policies. We also can't forget we are talking about events that were scripted and are subject to reinterpretation.
But in this case, as in the numerous prior discussions, the real issue is you coming to the conclusion that because the WWE has decided to use a standard phrase to describe all former multi-time champions they've somehow merged the lists of champions together into one big list, not merely used a different wording for a wrestler's personal title count. Especially when the passage you attempted to add included a clear "they said a, and they said b, so c must be true" form, when there's no actual source stating c at all. That's the very definition of WP:SYNTH.
Look, Occam's razor tells us that the simplest explanation, that they are simplifying things for the ease of the announcers and/or promotional reasons (they are a wrestling promotion after all) is the correct one. But just because they decide to simplify things for some uses doesn't mean they've changed their official history, as clearly shown by the links above. You really need to make a leap of logic or accept promotional language as fact in order to make the changes you want to make. That has no proper backing in policy or consensus. In this or any of the many discussions where you e tried to push this before. Will you just please let it drop? oknazevad (talk) 13:36, 26 January 2016 (UTC) PS, you really ought to log in on that tablet. You may have remembered to make a statement here, but it's too easy to forget and therefore too easy to look like your doing something wrong when you didn't mean to.
(Ranze here, unfortunately I am prone to forgetting my password and rely excessively on cookies I don't want to leave on this device) What is plainly written on the list is only the primary lineage of the WWE World Heavyweight Championship (that of the WWE Championship) because it is the dominant title. It has the longest history and Orton was WWE champ when he captured Cena's World Heavyweight championship. The World Heavyweight Championship's lineage is secondary but it is still part of the lineage and is considered when totalling up one's sum of reigns.
I mean look here: "Triple H shocks the world and becomes 14-time WWE World Heavyweight Champion." at http://www.wwe.com/shows/royalrumble/2016/wwe-world-heavyweight-champion-royal-rumble-match-photos matches up with what's listed under the title history. Stuff on WWE is true until it isn't true. It's not my own interpretation: it is that of the WWE, it is what they are telling us. I'm not pulling calculations out of thin air here, I'm looking at the hard data they are supplying us. They are not telling us numbers that conform to your conclusions, we are presenting the wrong results.
That events are scripted and open to interpretation is all the more reason why we ought to go by the script and not just insert our own conclusions. "But it's not fair, he had his foot on the rope but they still took his title!" That's not our role, nor is it our role to discount a title because it doesn't agree with our made-up narrative as pseudo-experts.
We are not even ignoring any events here: this is about the WWE acknowledging a World Heavyweight Champion reign as a sum in cumulative World Heavyweight Championship reigns. They do this with both of the titles that were merged to form it. Please explain A and B and C in your example. The bigger reign count is canon. The 'merged lineage' is canon. My adding 1+1+1=3 is no different than your adding 1+1=2. There is nothing wrong with counting what is in tables, but our tally should conform with the sums they present us with. 184.145.18.50 (talk) 11:57, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
I think it's WWE language for World titles in WWE. For example, Big Show and Jericho. Both won the WCW title, however, only Jericho's reigns count into the WWE WHC. What about show? Also, the WWE WHC is a different title. We can't say HHH won the title in 2008 and jump into the 14th reign in 2016. Also, he won the WHC before his 8th WWE reign, so... should it be the 13th reign?? it's really hard, but HHH won the WWF/WWE/WWE WHC 9 times, not 14. Other sources (http://www.wrestling-titles.com/wwe/wwe-h.html http://www.cagematch.net/?id=5&nr=20 ) say Triple H is in his 9th reign with the title. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 14:00, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

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Tripple H's brother is maggie pagege — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leudroth (talkcontribs) 14:36, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

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Signature moves list should be expanded[edit]

1)Sharpshooter- He has used this multiple times. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_Champions_(2009)

                 http://www.wwe.com/shows/extremerules/2013/triple-h-vs-brock-lesnar-steel-cage-match
                 http://www.smarknmark.com/hidden-gems/hidden-gems-11-the-legacy-v-d-generation-x-breaking-point-09
                 http://www.skysports.com/more-sports/news/14203/5544020/submission-success-for-dx

2)Neckbreaker- Frequently used. Used in his last match as well (WM 32) http://www.pwmania.com/the-streak-9-the-undertaker-vs-triple-h-wrestlemania-xvii

              http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/206167-ujudgment-day-pbp-randy-orton-vs-triple-h-3u
              http://www.wrestlingdvdnetwork.com/review-wwfwwe-no-way-out-01-dvd/10417/
              http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/wrestling/7048407/Wrestlemania-32-Roman-Reigns-defeats-HHH-but-women-steal-show-in-front-of-record-101763-crowd.html

3)Backbreaker- used in all matches against Shawn Michaels. http://tjrwrestling.net/classic-wwe-match-breakdown-shawn-michaels-vs-triple-h-at-summerslam-2002-by-kevin-pinto/ http://www.wrestlingdvdnetwork.com/17629-wwe-badblood-04-dvd/17629/

4)Atomic drop- used in last match as well. http://411mania.com/wrestling/411s-wwe-roadblock-2016-report-03-12-16/

              http://www.wrestleview.com/wwe-wrestling-results/wwe-wrestlemania/59931-wwe-wrestlemania-32-results-4316-live-in-dallas-triple-h-vs-roman-reigns-the-undertaker-vs-shane-mcmahon/ 

Some others as well-http://prowrestling.wikia.com/wiki/Triple_H — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kobashi misawa kawada (talkcontribs) 06:01, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

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Feud with Rollins????[edit]

How can there be a Feud with Rollins?? Feud would mean they are fighting which they have yet to do. So there is no Feud to speak of. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me 04:17, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

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Please change "lead" to "led" in second paragraph of lede section. Thanks. 159.148.89.67 (talk) 05:14, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

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In the "Entrance Themes" section, please change the title of the fourth-listed song in the bullet list from "Higher Brain Pattern" to "My Time (Instrumental)", because the official release of the song on the newly-released "WWE: Uncaged III" album has the official title of the song as "My Time (Instrumental)", not "Higher Brain Pattern". 2602:304:CEBF:8650:59A7:575D:3E05:8DB7 (talk) 21:56, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

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