Talk:William Scott Day
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[edit]According to the Tennessee Department of Correction William Scott Day has died in prison but it does not specify the date of death. Inexpiable (talk) 19:48, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Requested move 20 January 2022
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![]() | It was proposed in this section that William Scott Day (serial killer) be renamed and moved to William Scott Day (spree killer).
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William Scott Day (serial killer) → William Scott Day (spree killer) – The body of the text and references would make him a spree killer, not a serial killer. The span of his murders were committed during a 39-day robbery spree from December 9, 1986 to January 12, 1987. There is a distinction between spree killers/rampage killers and serial killers. As such I think the article should be renamed to William Scott Day (spree killer). ExRat (talk) 04:46, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Weak support. The two terms are often used interchangeably, and it's a matter of opinion whether a 39-day period constitutes a "spree", or whether there was enough of a cooling-off period between killings for him to be a serial killer. But in my opinion, this is closer to a spree killer. Rreagan007 (talk) 17:01, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Rreagan007: He actually fits the serial killer page more closely than spree killer: Per serial killer page: "a person who murders three or more people", "with the murders taking place over more than a month". Both criteria are met. Per spree killer page: "two or more murders or homicides in a short time", "with almost no time break between murders". Clearly was a big enough time break between murders. Spree killing is more within a week than a month. Inexpiable (talk) 22:23, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Spree killer is a fitter term for William Scott. He didnt kill enough people to become a serial killer. HelpingWorld (talk) 17:16, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- He killed at least 6 people, and according to our Serial killer article, you only have to kill 3 people to be a serial killer. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:32, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Per the term from the serial killer Wikipedia page: "a person who murders three or more people", "with the murders taking place over more than a month". Both criteria are met. Inexpiable (talk) 22:19, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Would you consider Charles Starkweather a serial killer or a spree killer? Starkweather is most often regarded as a spree killer. He murdered 11 people from December 1, 1957 to January 29, 1958 – some 60 days. Killing six people during the course of robberies over a 39-day period is a spree, "with almost no time break between murders." A serial killer murders "usually in service of abnormal psychological gratification, with the murders taking place over more than a month and including a significant period of time between them". Escaping from prison and then going on a little-more-than-a-month robbery spree and committing murders during the course of it, is a spree killer. ExRat (talk) 23:07, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah but ten of them occurred within an eight day period so he fits the spree killer term more closely. Not the case with Day. Inexpiable (talk) 08:37, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- Would you consider Charles Starkweather a serial killer or a spree killer? Starkweather is most often regarded as a spree killer. He murdered 11 people from December 1, 1957 to January 29, 1958 – some 60 days. Killing six people during the course of robberies over a 39-day period is a spree, "with almost no time break between murders." A serial killer murders "usually in service of abnormal psychological gratification, with the murders taking place over more than a month and including a significant period of time between them". Escaping from prison and then going on a little-more-than-a-month robbery spree and committing murders during the course of it, is a spree killer. ExRat (talk) 23:07, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support William Scott Day (murderer). By whatever definition, this one is accurate. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:52, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment (PLEASE READ BEFORE CLOSING) Seen as it will likely get changed. What about just simply changing the name to: William Scott Day? The current page title simply redirects to a stub article with one sentence and two sources called William S. Day about a politician who died in 1984. @Necrothesp:, @Rreagan007:, @ExRat:, @HelpingWorld:. Inexpiable (talk) 08:22, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment @Inexpiable: I made the suggestion for the possible article title change, but I didn't mean for anything to get heated. You've done really great work on the list of serial killers and serial killer articles in general. While I disagree with the assessment that William Scott Day is a serial killer -- I firmly believe the more apt description is spree killer -- I am not too invested. It was more of a discussion and suggestion. I think @Necrothesp:'s suggestion is a really great compromise. I support the article being renamed William Scott Day (murderer), and think the other article should be changed to William Scott Day (politician). ExRat (talk) 08:31, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- I would support William S. Day (politician). That does seem to be his commoner name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:09, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Sorry everyone. I got a bit muddled. Sometimes I wake up and my English is a bit foggy. I think @Inexpiable: is correct. I support the move to just William Scott Day. The other, politician guy's article is titled William S. Day and William Scott Day just redirects to it. So, I think the spree killer/serial killer article should just be William Scott Day and the politician's article should be as it is – William S. Day – and the redirect removed. A hatnote can be placed at the top of both articles ("for the American murderer William Scott Day, see..." and "for the American politician William S. Day, see...") ExRat (talk) 13:57, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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