Template talk:Did you know/Approved/week-3
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Suicidal Tour[edit]
- ... that after performing a tour, football club Santa Cruz Futebol Clube had four fewer players, two of them being dead?
- Source: www1
.folha .uol .com .br /esporte /2023 /04 /ha-80-anos-santa-cruz-completava-a-maior-epopeia-da-historia-humana .shtml (in Brazilian Portuguese, limited access): "Partiu em 2 de janeiro, no escuro. Só conseguiu retornar ao Recife em 29 de abril, com quatro jogadores a menos, dois deles mortos" (transl. It left on January 2, in the dark. They only managed to return to Recife on April 29, four players short, two of them dead)
- Reviewed:
– Hilst [talk]
13:30, 26 May 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: This is a fascinating article. There are so many potential hooks! Nazis, football, thieves... everything looks good to me. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Youn Sung-ho[edit]
- ... that a DJ 'monk', NewJeanNim, was credited with reviving interests of Buddhism among South Korean youths? Source: South Korean DJ NewJeansNim barred from performing at Singapore nightclub
- Reviewed:
– robertsky (talk) 17:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC).
Good to go. Article is new enough, just long enough, and has the proper sourcing. Earwig tool shows a very low copyvio%. The article is presentable, and the hook is both sourced properly and particularly interesting. QPQ is unnecessary here. Should be all good. Soulbust (talk) 15:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
New to DYK. Article looks fine but the hook is a bit awkward - maybe try ...that "NewJeansNim," a DJ[ing] monk, was credited with reviving interest in Buddhism among South Korean youth[s]? (Bracketed parts are ones I might add or remove.) Also the guy's nickname is NewJeansNim (not NewJeanNim) and the article uses his real name as the title (though I've seen a fair amount of DYKs that were TV Tropes-style potholed). Wuju Daisuki (talk) 00:46, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Sam Kee Building[edit]
- ... that the Sam Kee Building (pictured), recognized by Guinness World Records as the "narrowest commercial building in the world", was built on a bet between two businessmen?
- Source: Moliere, Ashley (May 25, 2021). "Built on a Bet: An inside Look at the World's Narrowest Building". CBC News.
- ALT1: ... that the title of "narrowest commercial building in the world" is contested between the Sam Kee Building (pictured) in Vancouver, British Columbia, and the Hendel Building in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania? Source: Mellon, Steve (May 30, 2004). "Here: In Downtown". Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. p. F9. Archived from the original on February 5, 2010.
- ALT2: ... that Chinese-Canadian businessman Sam Kee built the Sam Kee Building (pictured), a narrow spite house, after the city took his land without compensating him? Source: "Sam Kee Building". Canadian Register of Historic Places. Parks Canada.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ryu Sung-hyun
- Comment: A very curious building in my hometown with many interesting details, too many to fit in one DYK nomination. The hooks offered here are ordered by my personal preference.
Yue🌙 03:34, 24 May 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The fivefold is borderline met here as per my calculation. All other criteria are fulfilled. I've done some minor copy-editing. ALT0 is the most intriguing of the 3. X (talk) 08:10, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
Command information newspaper[edit]
- ... that 80,000 copies of a command information newspaper were dumped into the South China Sea during the Vietnam War?
- Source: Newsday (2005)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jaelyn Brown
- Comment: 5x expansion start on May 26.
Cielquiparle (talk) 22:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC).
5x expanded, article is NPOV and reliably-sourced, hook is interesting, reliably-sourced in-article. Verified QPQ required in order to pass. ViperSnake151 Talk 23:32, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks ViperSnake151. Have added QPQ above. Also changed "in" to "into" in the hook as I think it's better. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Approved. ViperSnake151 Talk 05:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:NEWSORG, the source would be primary. It could be attributed to the author, but it's a hard fact. Could the citation be switched to a secondary source? Rjjiii (talk) 18:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Courtesy pings to @Cielquiparle and ViperSnake151: Bruxton (talk) 15:13, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks ViperSnake151. Have added QPQ above. Also changed "in" to "into" in the hook as I think it's better. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Zwei Gesänge, Op. 1 (Schoenberg)[edit]
- ... that the two songs of Op. 1 by Arnold Schönberg (pictured), "Abschied" (Farewell) and "Dank" (Thanks), were first performed in Vienna in 1900, with Zemlinsky at the piano, to a hostile reaction of the audience? Source: Gerlach
- Reviewed: Alexandru Talex
- Comment: We are in a Schönberg year. I couldn't believe his Op. 1 (not 12-tone yet, rather expressionist but no room for that in a hook) had no article. Planning to write more about text and music but busy the next few days. I believe we should picture him this year ;)
Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC).
Great work as always on these pieces. QPQ, article eligibility, source, and general presentation checks out. The hook seems like it could be condensed just a tad to ease readability; maybe something along the lines of "ALT1 ... the first public performance of two songs from Arnold Schoenberg's (pictured) Op. 1 was met with hostile reactions from the audience?" The picture is pretty nice! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 23:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you fort the review! Yes, it could be condensed, but what would be left had much in common with other pieces, and I find the position of pictured awkward. We should also not say that in Wikipedia voice when it was the wording of one critic, also the ridicule in the other's wording was perhaps a bit more unique. "two songs from" is correct but misleading, because the opus is exactly these two songs. Please give me some more days to write about text and music, both loaded with emotion which the titles suggest a bit, I think. (But Schönberg knew why he didn't call them simply lieder (songs) but - like Brahms sometimes - Gesänge, a more sophisticate form for which English has no word, or has it? Then we could use that.) - You could also listen. I did, see the Liviu Holender hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Zemlinsky was not only the pianist, but Schönberg's teacher, the dedicatee of the songs, and to become his brother in law. Some will associate that with the name. He is also one of the composers whose music was banned by the Nazis, see the Holender hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:42, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have to agree with Generalissima here. The original hook has too much detail and is thus too dense. The alternative wording proposed is direct to the point and makes the point of the hook clearer. Readers might get lost with the first hook, the second hook is much more understandable. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- While all this is true and not new: we celebrate 150 years of Schönberg and his music, and it's nothing new and no surprise that people react to it with hostility. I was surprised that his first works were songs. I was surprised that they were recorded by four of the greatest names singing and playing (but you may not know them so I dropped the idea of saying that). I was surprised to learn how close Zemlinsky was to him, not just teacher but friend and later family. - Did you listen? - The music of these two composers were banned by the Nazis, - we could do a bit more positive for it than saying the reaction was hostility, no? - On 29 May The Rite of Spring was premiered to an almost riot, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:23, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- As a compromise, can't we just go with Generalissima's wording? It basically says the same thing as the original hook except more concisely, and if the point is to promote Schoenberg, they still do it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- MONTENSEM is in the process of expanding. We'll see what material we'll get. This is a substantial composition, and just to say that the ignorant public didn't like it seems too little, on top of too unspecific.--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Alma Mahler described the two songs of Op. 1 by Schönberg (pictured) as "lavished with incredible pomp but without any concession to the ear that is accustomed to gentle melodies"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- As a compromise, can't we just go with Generalissima's wording? It basically says the same thing as the original hook except more concisely, and if the point is to promote Schoenberg, they still do it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- While all this is true and not new: we celebrate 150 years of Schönberg and his music, and it's nothing new and no surprise that people react to it with hostility. I was surprised that his first works were songs. I was surprised that they were recorded by four of the greatest names singing and playing (but you may not know them so I dropped the idea of saying that). I was surprised to learn how close Zemlinsky was to him, not just teacher but friend and later family. - Did you listen? - The music of these two composers were banned by the Nazis, - we could do a bit more positive for it than saying the reaction was hostility, no? - On 29 May The Rite of Spring was premiered to an almost riot, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:23, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have to agree with Generalissima here. The original hook has too much detail and is thus too dense. The alternative wording proposed is direct to the point and makes the point of the hook clearer. Readers might get lost with the first hook, the second hook is much more understandable. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
I still think Generalissima's wording is the more interesting option here compared to the quote so let's just go with that. I've taken the liberty of labeling that proposal as ALT1, and relabeling the new ALT1 as ALT2. I've verified ALT1 in the source and it's the one most likely to get readers to click on the article. The rest of the review is per Generalissima. With that said, this is without prejudice towards whatever new hooks come out of the expansion, and this does not preclude approval of said hooks depending on how they turn out. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:40, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- We talk about a key composer's Opus one, a piece of significance. Can you - anybody - please explain to me why we would find a fact interesting that this piece shares with hundreds of other compositions?? Instead of saying something that is unique to this piece? - "lavished with incredible pomp but without any concession ..." - composing without any concession is what Schoenberg would do for life ;) - Alma Mahler, - I dropped the pipe in ALT2. We had this gorgeous DYK about her, remember? She is known and interesting, and she phrased an interesting observation interestingly, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:30, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
David Marchese[edit]
- ... that David Marchese accidentally posted a picture of a cat's testicles on Salon.com?
- ALT1: ... that David Marchese comes to interviews with three to five pages of questions prepared in advance? Source: "I come in with anywhere from three to five pages of questions that I’ve narrowed in advance."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mindar
Spaghettifier (talk) 01:53, 30 May 2024 (UTC).
Article looks good -- created within the window, long enough and generally in a good state. All statements are sourced and I can see no BLP or copyvio issues: the article does err on the positive side, and there might be some relevancy questions about e.g. the volume of his notes or his high-school disciplinary record, but none which represent serious problems or should prevent a DYK appearance. I do however think that His 2018 interview with Quincy Jones, in which the subject ... revealed an affair between Marlon Brando and Richard Pryor, went viral on social media needs a rephrase: revealed means that it was absolutely factual, whereas it seems that the claim is far more contentious and a serious matter to at least one living person. It hardly needs saying that ALT0 is the stronger hook: there's a WP:SELFPUB question-mark over it that would be solved by changing it to "once claimed to have..." or similar. UndercoverClassicist T·C 19:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: Thanks for the review! In regards to the Brando/Pryor sentence, let me know if the phrasing (alluded to an alleged affair) looks more solid — I also added another reference to substantiate the whole topic a bit. Also cut the suspension sentence, I was wavering about whether to include it. To couch the hook a little bit, how's this below?
- ALT2: ... that David Marchese once recalled accidentally posting a picture of a cat's testicles on Salon.com?
- Cheers — Spaghettifier (talk) 01:38, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Approved: all of that works well. UndercoverClassicist T·C 09:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Called by Name[edit]
- ... that the Called by Name project aims to commemorate Poles who were murdered for aiding Jews during World War II? Source: pretty much any and all sources in the article
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:46, 27 May 2024 (UTC).
Article seems presentable enough. It's also eligible in terms of newness and length. No evidence of copyvio. The first source in the article checks out. This hook seems like it needs "the" added before "Called by Name", but otherwise is interesting enough. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 23:16, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Generalissima: "the" has been added. Thank you for the review. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Good to go here. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Generalissima: "the" has been added. Thank you for the review. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Watamou Lamien, Revolutionary Military Organization[edit]
- ... that the Upper Voltan National Radio chief editor Watamou Lamien was the liaison between the ROC group of young radical military officers and the clandestine Voltan Revolutionary Communist Party?
- Source: James Genova. Making New People: Politics, Cinema, and Liberation in Burkina Faso, 1983–1987. MSU Press, 2022.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Songbird (TV program), Template:Did you know nominations/Battle of Stainmore
Soman (talk) 01:41, 27 May 2024 (UTC).
Both articles are in good shape, I don't see any evidence of copyvio or anything that would need fixing before running. AGF on the hook, but it's supported and cited in both articles. QpQs check off. Both articles are eligible in terms of length and newness. Seems good to go here. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 23:13, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Red Sea mangroves[edit]
- ... that unlike other mangrove ecosystems, Red Sea mangroves have been expanding in area since 1972?
- Source: Almahasheer, H; Aljowair, A; Duarte, CM; Irigoien, X (2016). "Decadal stability of Red Sea mangroves". Estuarine, Coastal and Shelf Science. 169: 164–172.
- Reviewed:
— hike395 (talk) 13:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Very short article barely over the minimum length about an interesting habitat of the Read Sea. Newness is ok, hook is cited and interesting. The article is well sourced, and earwig could not detect any plagiarism. Picture has a valid license and clear at 100 pixels. No QPQ required. My only remark for @Hike395: is that it would be nice to add to the article some information present in the two online source about the economic and ecological significance of the mangroves. This would make the article longer and above all more interesting. Alex2006 (talk) 05:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Added material about economic benefits (e.g., ecosystem services) and more about ecological significance. — hike395 (talk) 06:14, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Tatto Suwarto Pamuji[edit]
- ... that after completing his tenure as regent, Tatto Suwarto Pamuji walked 96 kilometres (60 mi) to fulfill a vow he made? Source: [1]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/John White (Kentucky politician)
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 03:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC).
Article seems in good enough shape. Hook is interesting, and although I am limited to English, the news article seems to directly confirm the hook even without knowledge of Indonesian. No evidence of copyvio, fully sourced, and the hook fact is correctly cited in-article. Just needs that QPQ. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Generalissima: QPQ added. Juxlos (talk) 08:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Good to go! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 14:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Generalissima: QPQ added. Juxlos (talk) 08:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Charleen Kinser[edit]
- ... that a mail-order catalogue offered a "Rocking Ram" toy designed by Charleen Kinser for $1600 in 1985?
- Source: Gilman-Tompkins, Sherri (8 May 1985). "Tiniest Yuppies Treated Royally in this Catalogue". Chicago Tribune – via ProQuest.
Take the $1,600 Rocking Ram by Forever Toys, which will be available in the next catalogue. The animal's fleece is made of three types of sheepskin, hand pieced and stitched.
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- Comment: QPQ now done: A Modern Mephistopheles Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:33, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Found an open url for the source:[2] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:40, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC).
Interesting enough — it might be good to include a conversion template for readers unaware of what $1600 means in an 1980s US context, but I don't think this is strictly required. Hook does check out with the source, and the article is long enough, eligible, and fully cited. I don't see any evidence of copyvio. Looks good to go. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:58, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Added inflation template to article:[3]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)