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September 2013

Hello, I'm SeoMac. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Franklin High School (Livonia, Michigan) have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, you can use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! SeoMac (talk) 01:29, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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December 2013

Hello, I'm Clarkcj12. I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions, such as the one you made with this edit to Hermès, because it didn’t appear constructive to me. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Clarkcj12 (talk) 00:37, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Vemma

Since you've made it clear on my talk page that you are in some way affiliated with Vemma, you should read about having a conflict of interest (WP:COI). Vemma's own website is not a neutral source of information about Vemma. Furthermore, a journalist's hypothetical personal lack of experience with affiliate marketing is not a criteria Wikipedia (or anybody) should use to determine the reliability of a source. The whole point of having a neutral source is that it's NOT directly involved in what it's reporting about. That's a good thing! Wikipedia isn't a platform for press releases or promotion. In the future, any further discussions of this should be held at Talk:Vemma, so that other editors can more easily find it.

It seems like you might have some additional confusion about how Wikipedia works, so I'm going to leave a standard welcome message here on your talk page, I strongly suggest you look over it carefully. Grayfell (talk) 21:19, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Greyfell,

The articles you have explain should be neutral would be credible and neutral articles if they were fact based and not opinion based. Many of the articles you attempted to site share very biased opinions as opposed to Vemma's home site which is not biased and in fact takes studies and quotes from those outside of the Vemma influence. There is very little information out there the unbiasedly covers this topic due to the fact that there is much inexperience with certain individuals in this company. I just know the facts and where to get the real information from, I neither support Vemma nor dislike it

I'm skeptical of what you're saying. For one thing, you have repeatedly referred to Vemma as being your company, implying that you are directly involved in some way with it. Are you currently an affiliate? If not, why are you referring to Boreyko as being your CEO?

As for the content of Vemma's website, if they cite outside sources, YOU should be citing outside sources. I've been trying to underscore the importance of WP:SECONDARY sources. Do you understand why this is so important? You can't just say that the sources I included are biased about Vemma without explaining how they're biased. Having opinions you don't agree with doesn't make something biased. Just saying that they're biased somehow, and therefor we should just trust Vemma completely, is ridiculous. Boreyko is going to say what he thinks is best for his business, that's why we rely on secondary sources.

Please address the issues I have raised at Talk:Vemma, or I will revert to the MLM wording. Grayfell (talk) 23:50, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Greyfell,

First off the sources you claim that Vemma is accused of a pyramids scheme are very biased and falsely reported. For example, if a report form the NY post does not even spell the word "Verve" right. I do not think the source did a good job at writing the article. Not to mention that truth in advertising is an organization who's mission is to criticize every company, so that information in itself is extremely biased and goes against what you deem to be accurate. Any information that comes from Vemma itself would be the closest relative to the companies structure and attributes.

You obviously have a false bias about this company. I say "our CEO" and my company because I am a customer of Vemma products but not an affiliate. If you need clarification on those terms or any information, message me and I will be happy to clear it up.

Please don't insert you comments in the middle of mine, that misrepresents what I am saying. Also, please sign your talk-page posts by typing four tildes (~~~~), as is explained in the welcome message.

Sure, you're a customer of a company that strongly encourages membership to purchase products that are not available in any regular store, but are not an affiliate. Even if I believed that, you would still have a conflict of interest. Truth in Advertising's mission isn't to 'criticize every company'. They report instances of advertising they find to by deceptive. The fact that they chose Vemma doesn't make them biased.

How did the NY Post misspell 'Verve'? Do you really expect them to use the exclamation mark after every use? Newspapers have manuals of style that dictate these things, just like Wikipedia does: MOS:TM.

You have not acknowledged what I am saying about WP:PRIMARY sources. This is not my opinion, this is a crucial Wikipedia policy! We don't trust Vemma to be the sole source of info about Vemma. It's that simple.

As for Vemma being accused of being a pyramid scheme, did you actually read that article? It's saying that the FTC hasn't had the resources to investigate MLM businesses (like Vemma) in the past, but that might change soon. The fact that they still exist has nothing to do with the current legality of their business model. Grayfell (talk) 00:29, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Greyfell,

Firstly if you look back at the date the NY Post originally posted that article various misspellings and such were made. Not to mention that this specific article only covered one aspect of the issue of Vemma and whether it was a pyramid scheme without getting information to prove that it might not be. Issues that not reported to keep a bias in an article is known as 'objective reporting' and not only is it not correct reporting in the news world but it is frowned upon in the media world.

Remember also that TINA is an organization that is also biased against Vemma, if you recall i posted and maybe wrongly so a business for home article that you claimed was not credible and was biased. TINA is the same way just biased in the opposite direction yet that information is ok with you? That makes no sense.

And on the note of the FTC, You should check out the link at the bottom that the FTC came out with, from the governments website! It explains the real way the FTC determines if MLM's (which Vemma is not anymore after today officially) are legitimate or not. Part of that is talking about customer bases, which i am one of Vemma so therefore I am part of that customer base. And even if magically so, whether something "would" or "might" change soon does not mean Vemma is a fraud company today. So claiming is is currently on your site is incorrect. The business model in itself had been used by Avon, Cutco, Vector, Beach Body, etc. and none of those seem to be of any discussion by you as schemes. So the legality of the business model should not be in question since they are part of the same industry that has been around for multiple decades with no trouble. As mentioned current FTC guidelines can be found below, take a look.

And also i included a link showing that when you buy a business builder from Vemma, it is now being called and affiliate pack.

Thank you, 207.72.6.146 (talk) 20:28, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.business.ftc.gov/documents/inv08-bottom-line-about-multi-level-marketing-plans

https://www.vemma.com/store/index.cfm?fuseAction=dspProductSelection

Since this is about content, I think Talk:Vemma is the proper place to discuss this. Grayfell (talk) 00:57, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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January 2014

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Vemma

Press releases, such as the one republished by CNBC you've been using, are not suitable sources for the changes you have made to the article. I have started a discussion at Talk:Vemma, please join in rather than edit war. Grayfell (talk) 01:00, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

April 2014

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Vemma. While objective prose about beliefs, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. Grayfell (talk) 04:01, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add soapboxing, promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, as you did at Vemma, you may be blocked from editing. Grayfell (talk) 00:11, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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November 2015

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Your draft article, Draft:Jake Bayer

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Wikipedia and copyright

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November 2017

Hello, I'm Oshwah. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —the one you made with this edit to Baby (musical)— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:12, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

February 2018

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Wikipedia and copyright

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October 2018

Hello, I'm Serols. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to Adrian College— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help Desk. Thanks. Serols (talk) 19:28, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Some Clarification...

Hi, I don't really know how to edit Wikipedia, so I hope this works. I just want to make it clear that this IP address and any edits associated with it belong to a college (I bet you can assume which one based on past edits...) and this talk page is likely rarely checked, if at all. I don't know if this information is helpful to anyone, but I thought I would mention it. Many different people are making the edits associated with this IP, and most of them probably don't know how to properly edit Wikipedia, including myself. Happy researching everyone!

207.72.6.146 (talk) 18:03, 30 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

April 2019

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June 2019

Hello, I'm Viewratio. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Making a Murderer seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Viewratio (talk) 18:59, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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April 2022

Hello, I'm Kpgjhpjm. I noticed that you recently removed content from Calabasas High School without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Kpg jhp jm 04:50, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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October 2022

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