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Great work on James Laurence Watts! Kerry (talk) 08:15, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

James Laurence Watts[edit]

Hi, again. I have gone through and tidied up some of your work on James Laurence Watts. I can see that, as a newcomer to Wikipedia, you had a few things that you could not work out. I notice that you have uploaded many photos to Wikimedia Commons for the article but you could not include them in Watt's article. The trick to doing this is that when you are looking at the entry in Wikimedia Commons, e.g. this one of the bust of Bernays you will see above the photo a line with Download etc. You need the click the middle link on this line (Use This Link with the Wikipedia W symbol to the left of it). Then copy the line of text under Thumbnail. This is what you paste into the Wikipedia article to make your photo appear. I have gone through and done this for all the photos you were pointing to in Commons. I am hoping this is what you intended. Let me know if it isn't.

Also, you had many citations to the Trove digitised newspapers (which is excellent). However, there is a better way that is just as easy. When you are looking at a digitised newspaper entry in Trove, over towards the top left, you will see a Cite button. Click on this and you will see (you might need to scroll down) a Wikipedia citation. Again, copy this gobbledy-gook and then paste it into your article as your referencec/citation. I have done this for citations, as you will see they are more helpful to the reader. Again I hope this is what you would have wanted if you had known how.

If I can be of any help, please don't hesitate to ask me. Either write here or use my Talk page or email me at kerry.raymond@wikimedia.org.au if you prefer (it's often easier when you are new to the wiki formatting) - keep up the good work! We need more people who can provide such useful information! Kerry (talk) 22:02, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Francis family[edit]

I see the info you have added about Arthur and Dick Francis. I have tidied it to be more conformant with our Manual of Style. However, as Arthur Francis was a member of parliament, he already has an article on Wikipedia (not a very impressive one!) and I feel the content you have added would be better placed in that article. Similarly I think Dick Francis probably merits his own article. So I will relocate the information accordingly. Kerry (talk) 20:54, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Kerry. I have just created a new Wiki page on Henry Alexander Francis the son of Arthur and Angela, and submitted it for review. As you are a Wiki editor, could you please expedite the approval for this page. Alphi123 (talk) 01:29, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Henry Alexander Francis (February 16)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DGG were:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
This is more like a personal memoir than an encyclopedia article.

The notability of the subject is not clear. the BMJ included obits of all members. We need a 3rd party source for the importance of the book/series of articles.

And try to condense their presentation.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
DGG ( talk ) 23:24, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, Alphi123! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! DGG ( talk ) 23:24, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Henry Alexander Francis (February 23)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Sulfurboy was:
This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Sulfurboy (talk) 06:50, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Citing the digitised newspaper articles in Trove[edit]

There is a better and easier way to cite these Trove newspaper articles than what you are doing. When you are looking at the newspaper article in Trove, look over to the left hand tool bar. One of the icons there is a little "i" in a circle. Click this and then scroll down the screen that pops up. You will find the Wikipedia-format citation there. Just copy and paste everything between (and including) the double curly brackets. If you are using the wiki text editor put it inside the ref tags. If you are using the Visual Editor, use Cite > Manual > Basic and then paste the citation into that text box. Very easy to do! Kerry (talk) 02:43, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kerry I have been following this method with Trove articles since you pointed it out when I contributed to the Laurence Watts page. What results in the citations area makes you think I am not following this method?

sorry I didn't notice I had already told you (I tell a lot of new users). But what triggered this last one was Shire of Sherwood where you added mention of Oliver Radcliffe. Though looking at again at it, you were actually adding an external link (which isn't allowed in the body of an article) rather than a citation. I can see why you did it that way as someone else had added an external link in the same para. But both should be done as citations. Generally external links only appear in the Reference, Further reading and External links sections or in circumstances where it is completely clear to the reader that it is a link to an external site (eg column of a table appropriately labelled). In the body of an article only links to Wikipedia itself are permitted. Kerry (talk) 05:50, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
1292simon (talk) 10:54, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikitia - not a reliable source[edit]

I noticed you added external links to Wikitia. That site appears to be (yet another) copy of Wikipedia. If you look at the bottom of [1], you will see it says the content is copied for Wikipedia. So you cannot cite Wikitia from Wikipedia as all you are doing is effectively citing Wikipedia from itself. More generally we don't do external links from the body of the article, only via citatons and in the External links section. Kerry (talk) 00:40, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kerry this Wikitia page was copied from a draft submission I sent months ago to Wikipedia for publication. It has been refused 3 times after I tried to comply with the rules. I have thoroughly researched this submission. I would like you to make comment or redraft the submission to how it will be acceptable to Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Henry_Alexander_Francis

You have made what I call the "undergraduate mistake". That is, you have written a lot in the hope it will "pass". The better approach is to directly address the issue of notability (which is why it is failing at Article for Creation) in what I call the "two sentence, two citation" method. First sentence is definitional, the second is the "claim to fame". For Henry Francis, my two sentences would be:

Henry Alexander Francis (1863 - 1944) was an Australian medical specialist in the ear, nose and throat. He pioneered a successful treatment for asthma in 1903.

Then you need to find the best two citations that support the asthma treatment. They should be from "reliable source" and not associated with Henry Francis himself or close associates. More than two is ok so long as they are *good* citations that clearly show his contribution to treating asthma. The folks who review at Articles for Creation drown in the workload of self-promotional new articles that come their way every day (I know, I did it for a while). They develop the almost automatic response to decline a draft unless it quickly demonstrates the notability of the topic. They will not read your whole article and all its citations; they do not have the time (hundreds of other drafts await their attention). They will probably look at no more than the first paragraph and its citations. So you gave them a long article without easy way to see which are the citations that demonstrate notability. Result: Declined! Two sentences, two good citations" does the trick! If the article is longer, it doesn't matter so much (but I personally tend to recommend just doing the one paragraph with the good citations) so there is nothing to distract. So put those good citations for his treatment of asthma into the first paragraph of your draft and then reply here saying {{ping|Kerry Raymond}} to get my attention and I will look at your draft. Kerry (talk) 08:43, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Kerry @Kerry Raymond:

Your submission at Articles for creation: Henry Alexander Francis (January 5)[edit]

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by SL93 was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: The notability is still unclear.
SL93 (talk) 00:02, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Henry Alexander Francis[edit]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 01:02, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Henry Alexander Francis[edit]

Hello, Alphi123. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Henry Alexander Francis".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 00:02, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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