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American princess?

Hello! I'd like to try to understand what happened in this case. Can you please explain? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 08:45, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

@SergeWoodzing: I'm not sure if you followed the link in the RfD banner on that page to the actual RfD discussion, but I'll summarize it. User LaundryPizza03 (talk · contribs) nominated about 30 redirects in one large group, and the only rationale they provided was a link to the WP:NOTGOOGLE essay. A consensus was very rapidly reached that the nomination was in bad form because it seemed the nominator did not actually verify/read the targets of each redirect to see whether the target might be appropriate (in addition to not performing all of the nomination steps like tagging and notifying).
No firm consensus was reached on whether any of the particular redirects were appropriate to keep, so if you feel e.g. First American Princess should be deleted, you're welcome to nominate it for RfD discussion (individually) yourself or find a new target page for it. –Darkwind (talk) 17:01, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you! Yes I did see that mass deletion and I found it very confusing. Now I know what happened. Formalia rules, I suppose. Makes me very nervous, even the very thought of doing a deletion request, for fear of missing some detail in the formalia and having the essential item ignored in favor of formalia. The fact here is that Jasmine Grimaldi is not a princess. Could you, with your expertise, please nominate that very inappropriate redirect for deletion, just with that simple fact? I will then be glad to support the request and add the constitutional problem for possible discussion, as well as the fact that we do not and cannot know who the first American princess was among native American tribes and kingdoms of centuries ago. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 06:28, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

September 2019 GOCE Newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors September 2019 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the September newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since June 2019.

June election: Reidgreg was chosen as lead coordinator, and is being assisted by Baffle gab1978, Miniapolis, Tdslk, and first-time coordinator Twofingered Typist. Jonesey95 took a respite after serving for six years. Thanks to everyone who participated!

June Blitz: From 16 to 22 June, we copy edited articles on the themes of nature and the environment along with requests. 12 participating editors completed 35 copy edits. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

July Drive: The year's fourth backlog-elimination drive was a great success, clearing all articles tagged in January and February, and bringing the copy-editing backlog to a low of five months and a record low of 585 articles while also completing 48 requests. Of the 30 people who signed up, 29 copyedited at least one article, a participation level last matched in May 2015. Final results and awards are listed here.

August Blitz: From 18 to 24 August, we copy edited articles tagged in March 2019 and requests. 12 participating editors completed 26 copy edits on the blitz. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: As of 03:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors had processed 413 requests since 1 January. The backlog of tagged articles stood at 599 articles, close to our record month-end low of 585.

Requests page: We are experimenting with automated archiving of copy edit requests; a discussion on REQ Talk (permalinked) initiated by Bobbychan193 has resulted in Zhuyifei1999 writing a bot script for the Guild. Testing is now underway and is expected to be completed by 3 October; for this reason, no manual archiving of requests should be done until the testing period is over. We will then assess the bot's performance and discuss whether to make this arrangement permanent.

September Drive: Our current backlog-elimination drive is open until 23:59 on 30 September (UTC) and is open to all copy editors. Sign up today!

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators, Baffle gab1978, Miniapolis, Reidgreg, Tdslk and Twofingered Typist.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:58, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi. I see that you did a revdel on this article, but the version which was reverted to seems to also be a copyvio. The page it was copied from, see here, was created back in 2013 according to the Carbon Dating app. The version of the article in existence at that time, this, does not contain much in the Tripura source, so I don't think this is a case of WP:MIRROR. Thoughts? Onel5969 TT me 11:40, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

@Onel5969: I hadn't checked the remaining text for copyvios, I just verified that the removed material was a copyvio and present in the old revisions. You're correct, most of the remaining article is a copyvio of the page you linked. I'll cut it out and see if I can revdel the rest without too much attribution masking. –Darkwind (talk) 04:35, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Done. –Darkwind (talk) 04:38, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks.Onel5969 TT me 11:06, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Mistake

Hi there Darkwind, I mistakenly made an edit to the Rothschild Family page while reading it.

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Terencej72 (talkcontribs) 07:54, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

@Terencej72: That's fine, I put it back. Thanks for letting me know. I'll add some helpful information to your page in case you're interested in learning how to edit. Also, don't forget to sign your comments on talk pages like this with ~~~~ (that's the tilde symbol 4 times), which turns into your username and the date/time. –Darkwind (talk) 07:57, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2019).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following a discussion, a new criterion for speedy category renaming was added: C2F: One eponymous article, which applies if the category contains only an eponymous article or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories.

Technical news

  • As previously noted, tighter password requirements for Administrators were put in place last year. Wikipedia should now alert you if your password is less than 10 characters long and thus too short.

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • The Community Tech team has been working on a system for temporarily watching pages, and welcomes feedback.

IP address

Hello, I’m coming to you because I’m learning this morning by logging in that my IP address is part of the IP range that you blocked two days ago and that blockage ended a short time ago. When I see the reason for the blockage, it is a sockpuppet that would be present since 2015 on Wikipedia. Please note that I am responsible for none of the edits in this IP range (which are in addition to vandalism). I am even less a sockpuppet of the account in question. On the contrary I am a user who spends time on the encyclopedia to improve it and create articles. Not to vandalize. It is true that I live in France, like him (according to what I saw in Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Joseph kargbo) and I contribute via a mobile and therefore via a mobile network that can be shared. I come to you because seeing this I got a little scared, afraid of being wrongly blocked for multiple account usage and blocking bypass that I had not realized. So, can you tell me, possibly by analyzing my physical positions, if I run the risk of being blocked? Thank you.
Futuresay22 (talk) 07:31, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

@Futuresay22: I'm sure you have nothing to worry about. Your editing doesn't resemble the vandal at all. I'm surprised you even saw the IP block notice, unless you had tried to edit while you were logged out. I specifically selected "anonymous only" for the block so that users with accounts would not be affected. As for your current IP address or its geolocation data, administrators like myself don't have access to that data, and there's no reason for us to ask someone who can see it (i.e. an editor with checkuser privileges) if you're not being disruptive, which you aren't. –Darkwind (talk) 06:33, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
@Darkwind: When I logged in, I saw the message "This IP is blocked. You can't create an account. If you have one, log in." I knew that I was able to log in with my account, but I wondered about consequences. But if I risk nothing, it's a good thing. Thanks for your reply. – Futuresay22 (talk) 09:45, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

please also delete the last revision comment made by the IP which is basically saying "You Idiot" to the previous reverter. Thank you. --Denniss (talk) 16:24, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2019).

Guideline and policy news

  • A related RfC is seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure.

Arbitration


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Administrators' newsletter – December 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2019).

Administrator changes

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GOCE December 2019 Newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors December 2019 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the December 2019 GOCE newsletter, an update of Guild happenings since the September edition. Our Annual Report should be ready in late January.

Election time: Nominations for the election of a new tranche of Guild coordinators to serve for the first half of 2020 will be open from 1 to 15 December. Voting will then take place and the election will close on 31 December at 23:59 UTC. Positions for Guild coordinators, who perform the important behind-the-scenes tasks that keep our project running smoothly, are open to all Wikipedians in good standing. We welcome self-nominations so please consider nominating yourself if you've ever thought about helping out; it's your Guild and it doesn't run itself!

September Drive: Of the thirty-two editors who signed up, twenty-three editors copy edited at least one article; they completed 39 requests and removed 138 articles from the backlog, bringing the backlog to a low of 519 articles.

October Blitz: This event ran from 13 to 19 October, with themes of science, technology and transport articles tagged for copy edit, and Requests. Sixteen editors helped remove 29 articles from the backlog and completed 23 requests.

November Drive: Of the twenty-eight editors who signed up for this event, twenty editors completed at least one copy edit; they completed 29 requests and removed 133 articles from the backlog.

Our December Blitz will run from 15 to 21 December. Sign up now!

Progress report: From September to November 2019, GOCE copy editors processed 154 requests. Over the same period, the backlog of articles tagged for copy editing was reduced by 41% to an all-time low of 479 articles.

Request archiving: The archiving of completed requests has now been automated. Thanks to Zhuyifei1999 and Bobbychan193, YiFeiBot is now archiving the Requests page. Archiving occurs around 24 hours after a user's signature and one of the templates {{Done}}, {{Withdrawn}} or {{Declined}} are placed below the request. The bot uses the Guild's standard "purpose codes" to determine the way it should archive each request so it's important to use the correct codes and templates.

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators; Reidgreg, Baffle gab1978, Miniapolis, Tdslk and Twofingered Typist.

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Administrators' newsletter – January 2020

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2020).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, partial blocks are now enabled on the English Wikipedia. This functionality allows administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces rather than the entire site. A draft policy is being workshopped at Wikipedia:Partial blocks.
  • The request for comment seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure closed with wide-spread support for an alternative desysoping procedure based on community input. No proposed process received consensus.

Technical news

  • Twinkle now supports partial blocking. There is a small checkbox that toggles the "partial" status for both blocks and templating. There is currently one template: {{uw-pblock}}.
  • When trying to move a page, if the target title already exists then a warning message is shown. The warning message will now include a link to the target title. [1]

Arbitration

  • Following a recent arbitration case, the Arbitration Committee reminded administrators that checkuser and oversight blocks must not be reversed or modified without prior consultation with the checkuser or oversighter who placed the block, the respective functionary team, or the Arbitration Committee.

Miscellaneous



WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors 2019 Annual Report

Guild of Copy Editors 2019 Annual Report

Our 2019 Annual Report is now ready for review.

Highlights:

  • Overview of Backlog-reduction progress (a record low backlog!);
  • Summary of Drives, Blitzes, and the Requests page;
  • Automated archiving of requests;
  • Membership news and results of elections;
  • Annual leaderboard;
  • Plans for 2020.
– Your Guild coordinators: Jonesey95, Baffle gab1978, Reidgreg, Tdslk and Twofingered Typist.
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Administrators' newsletter – March 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2020).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, the blocking policy was changed to state that sysops must not undo or alter CheckUser or Oversight blocks, rather than should not.
  • A request for comment confirmed that sandboxes of established but inactive editors may not be blanked due solely to inactivity.

Technical news

  • Following a discussion, Twinkle's default CSD behavior will soon change, most likely this week. After the change, Twinkle will default to "tagging mode" if there is no CSD tag present, and default to "deletion mode" if there is a CSD tag present. You will be able to always default to "deletion mode" (the current behavior) using your Twinkle preferences.

Miscellaneous



GOCE March newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors March 2020 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the March newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since December 2019. All being well, we're planning to issue these quarterly in 2020, balancing the need to communicate widely with the avoidance of filling up talk pages. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below.

Election results: There was little changeover in the roster of Guild Coordinators, with Miniapolis stepping down with distinction as a coordinator emeritus while Jonesey95 returned as lead coordinator. The next election is scheduled for June 2020 and all Wikipedians in good standing may participate.

January Drive: Thanks to everyone for the splendid work, completing 215 copy edits including 56 articles from the Requests page and 116 backlog articles from the target months of June to August 2019. At the conclusion of the drive there was a record low of 323 articles in the copy editing backlog. Of the 27 editors who signed up for the drive, 21 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

February Blitz: Of the 15 editors who signed up for this one-week blitz, 13 completed at least one copy edit. A total of 32 articles were copy edited, evenly split between the twin goals of requests and the oldest articles from the copy-editing backlog. Full results are here.

March Drive: Currently underway, this event is targeting requests and backlog articles from September to November 2019. As of 18 March, the backlog stands at a record low of 253 articles and is expected to drop further as the drive progresses. Awards will be given to everyone who copyedits at least one article from the backlog. Help set a new record and sign up now!

Progress report: As of 18 March, GOCE copyeditors have completed 161 requests in 2020 and there was a net reduction of 385 articles from the copy-editing backlog – a 60% decrease from the beginning of the year. Well done and thank you everyone!

Election reminder: It may only be March but don't forget our mid-year Election of Coordinators opens for nominations on 1 June. Coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Self-nominations are welcome. If you've thought of helping out at the Guild, or know of another editor who would make a good coordinator, please consider standing for election or nominating them here.

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Baffle gab1978, Reidgreg, Tdslk and Twofingered Typist

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Administrators' newsletter – April 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2020).

Guideline and policy news

  • There is an ongoing request for comment to streamline the source deprecation and blacklisting process.

Technical news

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • The WMF has begun a pilot report of the pages most visited through various social media platforms to help with anti-vandalism and anti-disinformation efforts. The report is updated daily and will be available through the end of May.

"U+f8ff" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect U+f8ff. Since you had some involvement with the U+f8ff redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:40, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Uw-contact

Template:Uw-contact has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 05:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2020).

Administrator changes

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CheckUser changes

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Administrators' newsletter – June 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2020).

Administrator changes

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CheckUser changes

removed SQL

Guideline and policy news

Arbitration

  • A motion was passed to enact a 500/30 restriction on articles related to the history of Jews and antisemitism in Poland during World War II (1933–45), including the Holocaust in Poland. Article talk pages where disruption occurs may also be managed with the stated restriction.

GOCE June newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors June 2020 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the June newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since March 2020. You can unsubscribe from our mailings at any time; see below. All times and dates stated are in UTC.

Current events

Election time: Nomination of candidates in our mid-year Election of Coordinators opened on 1 June, and voting will take place from 00:01 on 16 June. GOCE coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Self-nominations are welcome. If you've thought about helping out at the Guild, or you know of another editor who would make a good coordinator, please consider standing for election or nominating them here.

June Blitz: This blitz begins at 00:01 on 14 June and ends at 23:59 on 20 June, with themes of articles tagged for copyedit in May 2020 and requests.

Drive and blitz reports

March Drive: Self-isolation from coronavirus may have played a hand in making this one of our most successful backlog elimination drives. The copy-editing backlog was reduced from 477 to a record low of 118 articles, a 75% reduction. The last four months of 2019 were cleared, reducing the backlog to three months. Fifty requests were also completed, and the total word count of copy-edited articles was 759,945. Of the 29 editors who signed up, 22 completed at least one copy edit. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

April Blitz: This blitz ran from 12 to 18 April with a theme of Indian military history. Of the 18 people who signed up, 14 copyedited at least one article. Participants claimed a total of 60 copyedits. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

May Drive: This event marked the 10th anniversary of the GOCE's copy-editing drives, and set a goal of diminishing the backlog to just one month of articles, as close to zero articles as possible. We achieved the goal of eliminating all articles that had been tagged prior to the start of the drive, for the first time in our history! Of the 51 editors who signed up, 43 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Other news

Progress report: as of 2 June, GOCE participants had processed 328 requests since 1 January, which puts us on pace to exceed any previous year's number of requests. As of the end of the May drive, the backlog stood at just 156 articles, all tagged in May 2020.

Outreach: To mark the 10th anniversary of our first Backlog Elimination Drive, The Signpost contributor and GOCE participant Puddleglum2.0 interviewed project coordinators and copy-editors for the journal's April WikiProject Report. The Drive and the current Election of Coordinators have also been covered in The Signpost's May News and Notes page.

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Baffle gab1978, Reidgreg, Tdslk and Twofingered Typist.

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Our friend WW

Hope you don't mind I just deleted the tagged userpage as we've been just trying to DENY as much as possible per discussion here. He makes a new SP every other hour so I just tend to LTA block immediately and leave user and talk. Hope that's all good. Cheers. Glen 06:38, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

And like clockwork... Glen 06:39, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
@Glen: It's fine with me either way. The script I was using creates the user page automatically; I'll make sure to do it by hand if I come across any more. –Darkwind (talk) 06:56, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Regarding WP:SPECIESOUTCOMES from User talk:Zinedinemay2006

@CaptainEek: Sorry for fragmenting the discussion, but I don't want to burden someone else's talk page with any discussion we might want to have about this. Yes, I'm familiar with SPECIESOUTCOMES, but AFD precedent does not excuse a sub-stub article with only two bare URLs for reference, much less a whole flood of them. Maybe if they were properly formatted with complete citations, but as it is, all this is doing is creating a flood of pending cleanup work to get these pages to a minimally useful state.

I think maybe my advice to this editor was a little too broad, because I did imply that individual species pages weren't generally useful. I meant that more for this specific case, and not in general. –Darkwind (talk) 21:04, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Darkwind, Their articles were definitely disruptive, they made a real mess of things. But I think the issue was more the bad machine translation, formatting, and lack of communication, rather than the notability :) CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 21:08, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at the Ronald_McDonald page

Hi! I don't normally make an RPP, but it seemed necessary to get the IP contributor to talk. Good news is that it probably wasn't necessary.

As I'm sure you know, doing any sort of recent-change (or pending-changes) patrol is a lot like herding cats, and you never know when it's best to chase 'em a little more or just let them go. As it stood with the Ronald_McDonald article, several of us were trying to stem the tide of unsourced changes, and just were not having any luck.

Anyway, I'm sorry I wasted your time with that minutiae, but I really appreciate you were willing to help!

Thanks! — UncleBubba T @ C ) 22:22, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@UncleBubba: No problem. I think they had a valid point, but didn't know how to express it without being disruptive. –Darkwind (talk) 22:25, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Re Pro Wrestling Australia Draft

I take note of what you said in declining my application for move protection of Draft:Pro Wrestling Australia. I did tell him on his talk page not to do it again or he would be reported. He has made no attempt to improve the article at all (it is littered with fact tags and there is also a past AfD delete of the same promotion under a slightly different name). That is the main reason why I not only believe that it's not ready for publication, but I also believe that procedure should be enforced in this case. I am certain he moved it instead of improving it to stop it from being deleted per draft procedure at six months. The user also has a history of not discussing anything from what I can tell so it can be maintained that the move was made in bad faith. If you have any other ideas to ensure that he doesn't move it again in just under six months yet again I'll be happy to read it. Addicted4517 (talk) 08:43, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Addicted4517: The point I was trying to make is that there is no "procedure" that can "be enforced" here. Nobody is required to request a review of a draft before moving it to mainspace, even if it hasn't been substantially changed or improved since it was drafted. They boldly published it, you reverted them, now it's time to discuss it with them. As I mentioned, if they continue to move the page without discussing it, that can be taken up on a behavior noticeboard.
Let's assume for this discussion that the draft is in fact not ready to be published. (I have not reviewed it in detail, so I'll accept your assessment for now.) Move protecting the page places an unnecessary burden on the next editor who actually does take the time to improve the draft and get it ready to go live. Having to ask an admin to move the page or unprotect it may seem like a small hoop to jump through, but the protection policy is specifically written (in accordance with Wikimedia's founding principles) with the goal of placing as few of these technical restrictions in the way of editors as possible. Having to move the page back once every six months or so is, under policy, the preferred alternative.
In the absence of any discussion from the user, we must continue to assume good faith. So what if they are moving it back and forth to avoid deletion? Maybe they plan to improve it, but they don't have time to work on it right now. CSD G13 isn't exactly crucial to the success of the encyclopedia, and having the draft stick around for another six months or longer is not going to hurt anything. If they haven't posted anything on the draft talk page, maybe try writing them a non-template message on their talk page directly, to ask them what they plan to do with the draft. It couldn't hurt. –Darkwind (talk) 09:53, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
It would take too long to go looking for the history of the user concerned. All I can say is that he has a rep that IMHO has exhausted any right to AGF. That's why discussing it from my POV is a waste of time. I do know however that there isn't any point pursuing that without the detail. So I have an alternative suggestion. If he doesn't change anything and says nothing in the meantime, and moves it again into the main space I should nominate it for deletion for similar reasons to my original intention (previously deleted and not ready to be published). Addicted4517 (talk) 08:14, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi Darkwind,
This ip address that you have partially blocked has resume vandalizing/disruptive editing by changing episode titles against primary source (the official website) again on Paradise PD. — YoungForever(talk) 01:33, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

@YoungForever: Thanks for letting me know. I've blocked them for another week. –Darkwind (talk) 04:42, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

LTA user accounts

When you block obvious LTA accounts that are abusive like this one has been, you can also revoke talk page access and email access when doing so. All they're going to do is abuse it. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:50, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Can u revert the change in article name from ATK Mohun Bagan A.C. to its previous one Mohun Bagan A.C. and restore to Revision as of 15:16, 10 July 2020. ❯❯❯ S A H A 10:18, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

I saw ur message in the article talkpage. I want to elaborate that. ATK (football club) is a club, and Mohun Bagan is another. in January it was announced that their football departments will merge. So, MB FC merged with ATK FC while Other departments of the club will operate as usual. There's a page on that ATK Mohun Bagan F.C. (check the citations in this page). Now, the page name of MB changed to ATK MB, which is incorrect. ❯❯❯ S A H A 10:22, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
@Darkwind: there are multiple sources for the name in the new article.ATK Mohun Bagan F.C.
@ArnabSaha: No need to ping me on my own talk page, just so you know. Anyway, do any of those sources mentioned that the rest of Mohun Bagan (A.C.) is remaining separate? That's the part that should ideally be explicitly sourced. Either way, I don't particularly intend to get more involved in this situation, now that I've established a stable version of the article. I only suggest finding such a source in order to prevent further disruption when the protection expires. –Darkwind (talk) 11:09, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Darkwind, oh sorry. I mistakenly pinged u here. the press release by the club says that another club has bought shares in its football club. leaving th other departments. ❯❯❯ S A H A 11:40, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
@ArnabSaha: In that case, I would add a sentence to the article that explicitly says as much, perhaps at the end of the paragraph that talks about the merger of the football club, and cite it to the press release (this is one of the few times that a primary source is sufficient). Maybe something like, "The other activities and departments of Mohun Bagan AC will continue under that name and are not being merged."
Additionally, if the athletic club will not be conducting any football activities going forward, I would suggest that you move the football statistics either to a separate article (perhaps merge the information with History of Mohun Bagan A.C.) or to the article of the merged club under a section possibly called "pre-merger club histories" or something. The way it stands now, you have an article ostensibly about an athletic club that doesn't participate in football anymore, but the entire second half of the article is football lists and statistics, and doesn't say anything about the hockey or the cricket teams etc. –Darkwind (talk) 20:29, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Darkwind, the club was famous for football only. so, I don't think removing/merging the football part will be good. there is an article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mohun_Bagan_A.C._records_and_statistics . Also, putting this data in the new merged club article won't be good. it might create confusions and mislead supporters, rivals etc. I would suggest keep it as it is. we can add FINAL SEASONS, FINAL HONOURS etc. instead of honours, seasons headings. ❯❯❯ S A H A 05:25, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Please continue this discussion on one of your own talk pages, thanks.

one thing for sure has to be reverted, two pages of mb and atkmb cant remain like this. either update on mb with past tense and dissolving, or add all atkmb updates to mb page and keep only that (per tradition). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.1.7.48 (talk) 21:54, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

atkmb and mb are different entities. ❯❯❯ S A H A 05:17, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

exactly, still mb page says club exists, same as newly made atkmb. 2 pages for one club now, dont tell mb will play against atkmb! 🤣 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.1.7.48 (talk) 07:30, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

mb's footballing departments have closed, but hockey and athletics isn't. try to understand this. ❯❯❯ S A H A 10:00, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi

Please send the deleted material from Sala Polivalentă (Blaj) into a new Sandbox of mine. Thanks! Rostadia2012 (talk) 13:14, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

@Rostadia2012:  Done, at User:Rostadia2012/Sala Polivalentă (Blaj). –Darkwind (talk) 20:59, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Overriding CheckUser blocks

Please be a bit more careful... you just overrode a CheckUser block. See Blocklog for "Ttrttqq" . NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:00, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: My apologies, they weren't blocked at the time I had opened the pages to investigate from AIV, and I must not have noticed that had changed before I did the blocks from the SPI page I created. –Darkwind (talk) 22:04, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, it happens. But one has to be extra careful about CU blocks due to WP:CUBL. Anyway, there's a whole bunch of these accounts. I've found more than a dozen already. It looks like they've been hitting the Spanish Wikipedia for a while. The oldest ones from there are too stale to check, unfortunately. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:41, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

186.81.100.53

Hi. The IP that was the subject of the 3RR report I filed had made another edit to Racialism of the nature that they were warned about by you as a resilt of that report. [2]. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:11, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

@Beyond My Ken:  IP blockedDarkwind (talk) 02:12, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:24, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
FYI the same content has been added (and quickly reverted) twice today by different IPs beginning with 191.106: [[3]], [[4]]. I suspect that all three are the same individual. Generalrelative (talk) 22:58, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

One more thing

Hi again,

Sorry to bother you, but on these 2 we have had no result/consensus in weeks. It is fair to remove the template. It was a mistake nominating them, and nobody wants the deletion. Thanks, mate!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sala_Polivalent%C4%83_(Oradea) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sala_Polivalent%C4%83_(Bistri%C8%9Ba)

Rostadia2012 (talk) 15:36, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

IP disruption on Kosovo Liberation Army

Hello. After a block imposed by you expired, that IP made a disruptive edit on Kosovo Liberation Army. It would be great if you kept an eye on its edits, and act again if necessary. Cheers, Ktrimi991 (talk) 13:57, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

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