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Thanks!

Just a quick thanks for catching the necessary category changes and updates to the templates on the talk pages for the Roxborough State Park Archaeological District and Franktown Cave articles! Much appreciated especially for catching the category edits that were needed!!!--CaroleHenson (talk) 02:57, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome! I'm doing importance assessments for NRHP articles, and trying to do other fixes when possible. As to the article category correcting, that's a common confusion. Just because a place is on the National Register of Historic Places and is a landmark, doesn't make it a National Historic Landmark. It's like when I first started going on NRHP picture taking roadtrips. I'd find buildings with plaques saying they were on the Register, and they weren't. I realized they were in historic districts, so they were on the Register as part of the district. It's those nitpicky things that I can productively channel on Wikipedia. :)

Btw, good on you for the article creation/editing. I don't have the attention span to do that very often, which is why I do things like article assessment. Anyway, keep up the good work! :) --Ebyabe (talk) 03:06, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, thanks, I was obviously confused - especially the distinction for National Natural Landmark (and that it applied to the park not the arch. district) until I saw your category changes. Keep up the great work yourself!! It's great to have someone that keeps things in check!--CaroleHenson (talk) 03:38, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Re: NRHP train stations

I'm still deciding which station infobox I should work on next. I don't think I'm going to do any of New York City Subway stations(although I might consider some), and right now I'm leaning towards the Santa Fe Station in Fresno, California. When I started doing this after you went on this NRHP infobox tagging rampage, I thought I was going to finish Penn Station in Baltimore first, and instead I ended up finishing Penn Station in Newark first. There are some non-railroad station articles I've had my eyes on for infoboxes, but I'm not entirely sure they're actually listed on NRHP. ----DanTD (talk) 19:01, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Rampage?! I resemble that remark. :) Whatever catches your fancy, go with that. Back to rampaging (grrrr). ;) --Ebyabe (talk) 19:10, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

WP NRHP in the Signpost

"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject National Register of Historic Places for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Other editors will also have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 05:02, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Looff Carousel

Ok, I'll bite, why high importance? --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:44, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

It's a nhl. --Ebyabe (talk) 19:56, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

I didn't want to have extra-long summaries, so I abbreviated. I've linked to it in the summaries now, so it makes more sense. --Ebyabe (talk) 20:55, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm just dense. I had missed that it was an NHL -- I'm just used to riding the horsies. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 23:23, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Is that code? Sorry, I think I've been watching too much Craig. :) --Ebyabe (talk) 23:27, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

No, it's just that it's a carousel, and I rode on it when I was younger, and took one of my daughters there once. :-)--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:30, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I thought it might be something like that. It never ceases to amaze me what's on the Register. --Ebyabe (talk) 17:42, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

File:StateFarmCalendar2002andEagleCreekSilence.JPG

Thank you for fixing. :) Some IP idiot deleted it a few months back, and both we (unfortunately) and the bots (fortunately) missed it. Until today. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:19, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

NRHP on the NJ Register of Historic Places

I know I haven't really been helping lately with assessment (real life keeping me busy haha), but I just ran across a few NRHP listings in New Jersey that you assessed as mid-importance because they were on the NJRHP. I don't remember the exact location of the discussion, but I think consensus is that sites that are on the NJRHP shouldn't be mid-importance. In fact, all NRHP listings in New Jersey are also on the NJRHP, so that would mean the entire state of New Jersey would be mid-importance. I don't know if these pages were a misrepresentation, but I just wanted to let you know for future reference. I am by no means going to trace your steps backward, so don't worry too much about it haha. Just letting you know. Thanks!--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 20:46, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Really? I hadn't realized that. Actually, I went after what I thought were the mid and high-importance ones first. And the relateds (contrib properties). Maybe after these are all done, the mids can be gone thru again to double check. Of course, the irony is that I didn't want importance ratings for NRHP articles in the first place. It's why I didn't include the parameter in the ratings template when the project started. Oh well, it'll all work out somehow, I suppose. We've managed the last five years somehow. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Welfare State ‖ 20:51, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Santa Susana Depot

Thanks for fixing the infobox on the Santa Susana Depot article. I created the original article and although I've been done my fair share of editing on other articles, I'm not well versed in some of the more intricate stuff. Napa56 (talk)

You're quite welcome. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 17:02, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

NRHP photo contest

I'm never sure that my attempts at humor will succeed. Hopefully you took my comments on "sponge boat world champion photographer" as it was intended (that is, humorously) I've got a draft of Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Fall 2011 Photo Contest started. I'd love to see any comments about that page, just to make sure that it is easily understandable, and that the contest would be workable. Any more help appreciated. Smallbones (talk) 02:44, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm Mister Humour! :) The sponge boat comment is ironic though. Apparently almost all the ones in Tarpon Springs have been destroyed according to the folks there, but I can't find reliable sources to prove it! *sigh* Anyway, good idea on the photo contest. It would be nice to get newer folks into the photo-taking fold. I'll look at the draft and contribute my thoughts. Such as they are. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Health and Welfare ‖ 20:38, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your understanding. I'd like to have at least one active sponsor other than myself on the contest page (call me shy), and you'd be the perfect co-conspirator. I've got an almost perfect "Road Trip" Challenge. Something like

"In order to encourage NRHP photographic road trips, a barnstar will be awarded for the two photos, taken by the same photographer during the contest period, that are the greatest distance apart. Please make sure you include the coordinates when uploading to Commons (use the {{Location|dd|mm|ss|N|dd|mm|ss|W}} template) and you can copy the coords from the county lists.

"To self-report your two most distant photos, just include both photos in a gallery below, and include the distance calculated from Google Maps."

This should be an incredibly fun challenge to watch, and a very easy one to judge. Well, just making a suggestion. Smallbones (talk) 01:21, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I really like that idea! --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Health and Welfare ‖ 01:22, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Me too. A pity that it's being restricted to taken, not just uploaded, in the time period, since I have several waiting for upload from a recent trip to Pennsylvania :-) Nyttend (talk) 12:29, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

It looks like both of you want to compete in this challenge rather than be the judge. So I'll list it myself (feel free to put your name in, in place of mine!) As far as the "taken and uploaded" restriction, I'm open to changing it if a consensus of editors agrees with you, but I'd hate to think somebody has gotten an unfair advantage by storing up photos to be uploaded later. Smallbones (talk) 14:26, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm willing to opt out as a potential contestant to judge. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 14:51, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

A "most shots of a site" contest could be very difficult to judge. Would you want to be the one verifying that 200 low-quality shots are all of the same site? But feel free if you want to sponsor it! Smallbones (talk) 15:27, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, there is that. But a minimum file size could be set (1 MB, or somewhere in that range). We'd want quality as well as quantity. It's not that restrictive, either. My trusty digital camera gave out a few months back, after 4 years of extensive use. I got one that was actually better, for around 60 bucks! --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Inspector General ‖ 15:33, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Nash

Hi,

I saw you wikified the recent changes at John Forbes Nash, Jr.. Does this mean you agree with the substance of the changes? E.g. visionary links to "Defined broadly, a visionary, is one who can envision the future. For some groups this can involve the supernatural or drugs." I think this does not apply directly to Nash.

Second, the long citations are to long to my opinion (esp. in the lead).

Could you please have a critical look at all the changes?

Thank you very much, Sasha

I was wikifying and removing unneeded capitalization only. I have no opinion about the article content. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Repel All Borders ‖ 15:21, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! If you do form an opinion, I would be glad to hear it. Sasha (talk) 15:27, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the cataloging thanks Hmains (talk) 02:49, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

For all your work here at Wikipedia. Thanks, and we're glad you're here! Pinkstrawberry02™ talk 03:34, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Sig

Hey there Ebyabe. First, thanks for all your hard work on rating the NRHP- it's fun to see you slowly make your way through every single one of the 300+ articles I've written about NRHPs. Awesome. Second, I just noticed that in your signature you haven't closed the font tag, so everything after your sig takes on that gray tone you're using. Just a heads-up that you might wanna do that. • Freechildtalk 20:25, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Yep, ain't we got fun. :) The sig issue is b/c I used a template I just created, {{NRHPwelcome}}. It obviously still has a bug or two. Fixed it. Thanks! --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 20:31, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

AWB replacements

(low importance nrhp, replaced: {{WikiProject National Register of Historic Places|class=Stub}} → {{WikiProject National Register of Historic Places|class=stub|importance=low}} using AWB)

I certainly appreciate your maintenance work -- but could you please have AWB mark these as "minor". I had 242 of them turn up in my watch list today and no easy way to turn them off -- yes, they're all talk pages, but I watch some talk pages also. Thanks, . . Jim - Jameslwoodward (talk to me • contribs) 14:47, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Apologies. I didn't think they'd be considered minor edits. I've changed it on AWB. Ironically, I'm down to the last few hundred, so there won't be much more of these showing. Cheers! --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - State of the Union ‖ 16:48, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

There, that's done. Shouldn't have to worry about that again. Thanks for understandment. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - General Health ‖ 18:14, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. . . Jim - Jameslwoodward (talk to me • contribs) 11:33, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Roadtrip?

Were you out gathering photos on a road trip? Looking forward to seeing some of your stuff at Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Fall 2011 Photo Contest! There are a couple of new photographers adding stuff, but the usual photographers seem to be missing. In any case, we need some real contenders for the Best Photo contest.

Smallbones (talk) 13:32, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Two birds. There's an SF con I go to each year, and take photos in the area whilst there. But since I've gotten most of the spots already, I could spend more time at the con for a change. I'm also being pre-emptive, since I got shots in a historic district near Sarasota that Florida is submitting, but isn't even on the pending NRHP list yet. Sorting through and categorizing them all on Commons. I wasn't going to submit them to the contest, though, since I'm also judging. I can notify generally, or post them to be looked at only. Lemme know. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 14:34, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'm submitting photos for those challenges where I'm not the judge, but I'd limit them to places already listed. Smallbones (talk) 14:53, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Your next adventure

	Your next adventure
	Have fun taking pictures! Perhaps I should have copy/pasted my rationales :-) Nyttend (talk) 16:58, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

I was waiting for linguine stubs, penne stubs, ziti stubs. :) And no, I'm not diving for photos. Even I'm not that dedicated. I'll just keep taking mine from the shore. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 17:13, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Fernandina Beach is not Florida's northernmost city.

I see that you've reverted the article again. De Funiak Springs is a city, and it is north of Fernandina. I think it's misleading to assert that Fernandina is Florida's northernmost city. It seems clearer to describe it as the northernmost city on the east coast of Florida.

You are another partisan for spreading the tentacles of Jacksonville? I don't know anyone in Fernandina who describes themselves as living in "Greater Jacksonville". It reminds me of the local news outlets describing the TPC in Ponte Vedra as a Jacksonville event.;-) --Carlstak (talk) 00:08, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

No, no, I'm far from partisan. I actually thought it was northernmost. Is it really DeFuniak Springs? After examining a Florida map, it looks as though Graceville is technically the northernmost city in the state. You're right about Fernandina, though, I'll leave it as is.

Not to be offensive, but Jacksonville? Ptui! I've been all over the state, and it's my least favorite city, next to Miami. And I'm from Miami originally! I firmly believe M.C. Escher was the street planner for downtown Jax. It's one of the most confusing cities to navigate. Anyway, sorry for the misunderstanding, and hope all is well now. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Repel All Boarders ‖ 17:07, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

No problema, all is well. Thanks for the nectarine pie, and thanks for the photo of the Amelia River-- perfect. You have a great collection, and I see you've done lots of work for us to build on. I love peach (same thing) pies with cinnamon on top. ;-) --Carlstak (talk) 01:07, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Update: I had looked at a map and had seen that DeFuniak Springs was one town I knew was an incorporated city located at a higher latitude than Fernandina. I gave that as an example. But the article still says Fernandina is Florida's northernmost city. --Carlstak (talk) 03:52, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Someone changed it to "one of the northernmost", which is better. Happy turkey day. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Inspector General ‖ 05:19, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Humes High School

Are you sure the coordinates of Humes High School are correct? The high school is in Memphis but the map in your infobox shows it located at the other end of the state in North Carolina. 24.209.193.221 (talk) 03:58, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

I went by the coordinates according to the National Register. If they're incorrect, please feel free to change. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - State of the Union ‖ 04:26, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Difference?

Hi there, can you tell me what the functional difference between Category:Hotels established in 1927 and your newly created Category:Hotels completed in 1927?--TM 19:02, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Are they the same? I would think that when a hotel building is completed and when it's open for business aren't necessarily the same. Sometimes they're finished in one year, then opened the following year. If established and completed aren't different in that sense, then I guess they should be combined. I'm just trying to whittle down all the Category:Buildings and structures completed in (year), you see. Whatever advice you can provide is appreciated. Thanks. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 19:10, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking of putting them in Category:Residential buildings completed in (year), but didn't think they were residential buildings, per se. That's more houses and apartments. Thoughts? --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Repel All Boarders ‖ 19:12, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

I definitely appreciate the less than exciting organizational work you are doing. I have done the same as well. I am not sure how to handle it, but it seems less than helpful for articles like Eastland Park Hotel which includes both categories. I think that lumping them together unless there is a specific difference is my suggestion.--TM 19:28, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, that makes sense. Let me go back and fix those. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Health and Welfare ‖ 19:32, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Exercise care here. Not all hotels are built in the year they are established. Purpose built hotels generally have the same year for built and establishment. In other cases the building was constructed, used for other purposes and then converted to a hotel in a later year. So for those you need two years. Probably best to keep two categories even if there will be a lot of overlap. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:42, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Govermental buildings categories

I'm adding the navigation template to these. You may want to consider adding this for any new categories. These make it easy to navigate to adjacent categories. BTW, thanks for helping out on this mess. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:37, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the headsup! I'm working on libraries now. Ain't we got fun? :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 23:39, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

At least you are learning about buildings! Be warned that one editor does not believe that English churches can ever be listed as completed. And a US editor does not like more specific categories used on redirects. So have the dates for a church and school in the article on a complex is acceptable to them. But using the years on the redirects is not. Be aware that the NRHP information is frequently wrong. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:46, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Category:Libraries established in 1997 may be problematic. The same as hotels, libraries can be opened in one year and built in another. Taking out the 'completed in' category removes these from the buildings and structures and civil engineering trees. Libraries are both institutions and buildings. So probably better to add one for established in and not replace in this case. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:04, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Refined Masonic building cats...

I notice there are a few years here that are populated just enough to be useful, but by and large, the intersection of "NRHP or otherwise listed buildings", "Masonic buildings", and "Buildings completed in a given year" is very, very small indeed. Most years will be empty, and I feel this diffuses the buildings category too much to be generally useful. Could you revert your changes? MSJapan (talk) 02:52, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

I, and others, are working on distributing the articles in the various Category:Buildings and structures by year of completion subcategories. I do not see this as being a problem, but a solution. Therefore I do not see a need to undo this diffusion. If you wish, you can bring up this concern at a messageboard or project. Perhaps WP:HIST or WP:NRHP. Thanks. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Inspector General ‖ 05:16, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Just a reminder

The Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Fall 2011 Photo Contest closes in a few minutes. I was sorry not to see any of your photos there. In any case, you've got a few judging tasks to do over the next day or so. Thanks. Smallbones (talk) 04:21, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I'll put a note at WT:NRHP tomorrow, so maybe just add something there, or maybe on the contest page if you are in a hurry! Smallbones (talk) 05:11, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Theatres completed in

My concern here is with more then your creations in this area. Theatre is ambiguous in that in can be a building for plays or cinemas. Grouping them at the higher level name is a violation of the guide that says don't categorize articles by like names. I don't have a good solution, so continuing may be OK. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:08, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm taking a break from the categorizing (see the Masonic discussion above). I may get back to it, we'll see. You keep up the good work, though. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Welfare State ‖ 01:11, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Middle Name

Nina Dobrev's middle name is spelled Constantinova. My source: the good people in accounting for tvd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackbirdg (talk • contribs) 08:02, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm Nina Dobrev's best friend, and she spells it with 4 M's and a silent Q. See, without sources, anyone could say anything and it would be equally valid. I've solved the problem by removing the whole "birth name/born as" info, since TV.com isn't a reliable source for it anyway. If a reliable source can be found, than it can be added. Until then, it's better not to have the info, rather than have it be potentially inaccurate due to being unsourced, per WP:BLP. Thanks. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Border Town ‖ 18:58, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

It's not a middle name, it's a patronymic - meaning her dad's name is Konstantin. I'd think IMD can be trusted on things like this and they say her birth name was "Nina Constantinova Dobreva" which seems like the correct form (note Dobreva). It quite likely that the a was intentionally dropped, in Canada most people want to have the same name as their dad. Bulgarian uses Cyrillic letters, so the transliteration from a Cyrillic K to a C is probably acceptable (if non-standard). Actually I stopped by to see what Ebyabe's middle name is - maybe y?

Oh, and thanks for the barnstar! Smallbones (talk) 19:19, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh, you. :) You know, I'm almost tempted to take her off my watchlist, since the K/C thing seems so silly to me. The trouble with IMDB and TV.com and such sites is that anyone can edit them, like here. And you see how that's turning out. :) I expect it'll get added back, and then continue to be changed back and forth. And people here wonder why Wikipedia isn't taken seriously by so many in the general public. *sigh* --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 19:32, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

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New hidden listings

Ok, where did you find the new NRHP listings that you added invisibly? I would like to keep track of these as well! 25or6to4 (talk) 23:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Sure! You can get to it through the same page where the new listings are. The link is on the left of the page, "Pending List". Here's the direct link. It really helps b/c I live to go on phototaking roadtrips. And there's nothing worse than driving to somewhere 6 hours away and taking pictures, and then 2 months later a new listing pops up. This way you can be pre-emptive, to a point. Later! :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Border Town ‖ 00:15, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

You might also want to see if you can find the Texas Historical Commission, or whatever it might be called there. I found the one for Florida. This gives me the heads-up for submissions that Florida makes to the NRHP months in advance. With neat presentations like this. I was able to get pics of Waters and Elsa Burrows Historic District a couple of months ago, for example. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Inspector General ‖ 00:20, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

I definitely hate that...they listed a new site in Taylor County, Kentucky recently, several months after I fully illustrated it while at a church event, and I'm not driving 400 miles for one site. Nyttend (talk) 03:05, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

See, that's why it pays to be pre-emptive. I had National Register of Historic Places listings in Jefferson County, Florida almost fully illustrated, but saw that Florida was submitting a new place, the Girardeau House. But since I knew in advance, I added it to my list. A few months later, I went to get some Jacksonville spots, and headed west. I decided to take an extra day, and went over to Jefferson County and got the last few, and the Girardeau House. Also got the last listing in Suwannee County.

It is annoying when a far-away listing is added like that, I agree. I remember one of my first major roadtrips up in the Panhandle in 2008. I'd gotten most of Bay County done, then four months later the A. A. Payne-John Christo, Sr., House got added! I live in Marion County, so that's like a five hour drive. It wasn't until 2 years later that I finally got pictures of it. Still can't find the Latimer Cabin, though. And PC Beach is so built up, I can't even get to the beach to take a picture of the ocean in the direction of the SS Tarpon. But you can only do what you can do. Now, back to the catching up on the Nerdist podcasts. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - State of the Union ‖ 04:00, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Thankfully, Indiana does a good job of putting nominations online, so I routinely get images for pending sites (in September I photographed three sites that were listed just last week), but Ohio isn't as good: they used to put information online, but they haven't done much in a while. And yeah, I hate the sites that can't be seen without trespassing; File:Elm Spring Farm fields.jpg is the best I could do for one site near Indianapolis. I'm off to bed: Sandusky, where the burned boat was located, is two hours away from my parents', and I didn't want to waste some of the nine hours of daylight on driving, so I've been up since 5:30AM. Nyttend (talk) 04:08, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Hey, you do it too! Whenever I go on one of my long trips, I'll start way early too. I usually try to reach the farthest away point around sunrise, then drive homeward. That way I'm driving familiar territory after sunset. Of course at this point, most of the state is familiar territory. :) Probably the earliest I've left on a trip is 3 AM, which I've done going to the Panhandle or South Florida. In fact, the goal of my Thanksgiving roadtrip last year was to start in Opa-locka near sunrise (while the criminal element would hopefully be sleeping) (it's sad to see how downhill it's gotten). Then visit my old house in North Miami, a few other spots, then be out of Dade County by noon. Got out by 12:30, so close enough. I so do not miss living down there anymore. The Keys, on the other hand, I'm going to have to re-visit. If it weren't so far south, I'd be tempted to move there. If you ever get the chance, visit, it's great. I can even recommend some of the more interesting spots. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Border Town ‖ 04:28, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, when I've met family at Cincinnati, I've typically left in time to reach the Ohio border at sunrise; like me, they have a two-hour drive, and they don't like to drive before sunrise, so I typically have a few hours for photos; I'm now 80%+ done with Hamilton County, and most of the sites I don't have are in parts of the county outside Cincinnati. Not been to Florida since I was in high school (North Fort Myers, working with a Christian missions organisation for a couple of weeks), and most of my experience with the state has been I-75. Nyttend (talk) 14:52, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

I'd have loved to spend time in Cincinnati, but was trying to get as far as I could that day. I wanted to get to Wheeling, but only got as far as Newark. Wheeling was the next day. And we only spent the night there. I'd really like to get back there someday. The Fort Myers area is nice, but it's also the area where all those dang fish cabins are, so I've got mixed feelings about that part of Florida. :) But if you couldn't tell, I'm particularly fond of the Panhandle. Which, of course, is much nearer to you. You've got views like this, this, this and this. I-75, so many billboards, ick. I like I-95 much better. But you'd not have much need to go that way, would ya? :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Health and Welfare ‖ 23:55, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

I definitely like Cincinnati. I've gotten lots of photos in historic but rather dangerous older neighborhoods; if they were safer, I'd love to live in areas such as Over-the-Rhine or Prospect Hill. Wheeling is interesting; I've gone through it plenty of times on my way to or from my undergraduate alma mater, Geneva College, but I'd rather get Pennsylvania photos than West Virginia photos, so I've only gotten a few Ohio County photos. What's wrong with the fish cabins? Are they all destroyed? Are they something that you can't photograph unless you learn SCUBA diving? I definitely don't know I-95; depending on your definition of "Atlantic coast", the farthest south I've been on the Atlantic coast is either Providence, Rhode Island or Plymouth, Massachusetts. Nyttend (talk) 23:50, 30 December 2011 (UTC)