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Hello Kevlar67/Archive 1, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Ukraine portal

Hi again, I stopped by to thank you one more time for creating the Canadian Ukrainian article which is in amazingly good shape for such a recent article. Also, I would like to draw your attention to the Ukraine portal here at en-wiki. It has some topics and article suggestions and two important notice board of which the "new article announcement board" is the most active one. Please add it to your watchlist and don't forget to announce there all new articles that are related to UA in any way. Thanks again, --Irpen 09:23, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Hi, put all the background you want into the announcements on Portal:Ukraine/New article announcements, if you think it would help people to decide if they want to get involved or not. Just do not forget to sign your information if it is more than straight announcement of a page. Also bear in mind that some browsers have problems with editing of long wiki pages and we are trying to keep the announcement page to span for at least two months (thus, somebody may transfer long discussions from the board to the telk pages of the related articles). There is also another page Portal:Ukraine/Ukraine-related Wikipedia notice board for all other Ukraine-related notices. It is probably the best place to ask for help to all the Ukrainian-related issues. Feel free to use the portal pages, that is what they are for!abakharev 01:25, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


Hi Kevlar. I have been away for a few days and I just got your message regarding translation. I may be able to help out in some translations. I am not sure that my Ukrainian is at a high enough level that I should be relied upon to do too many, but I definitely help out with small ones. Also, I think a good source would be to engage people from the Ukraine portal mentioned by Irpen above. What did you have in mind? -- JamesTeterenko 04:58, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Conall Gulban

I think the Annals of Ulster gives his death as 480, but this could well be that of his half brother, Conall Cremthainne. Not all the obits of the sons of Niall are known, and even when they are given, we must treat them with care because the carrear of Niall is known to have being backdated at least a generation centuries ago. Not sure why, but this is why you have two main death dates for him, 405 and [[455]. The latter is now thought to be more accurate.

Also, you might want to check out the updates I've made to Conall Gulban and his relatives. Much more to do, but its a start. Cheers. Fergananim 19:30, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Chiefs of the Name

Hi Kevlar. The following sentence in Doherty badly needs revision:

"The Chiefs of the Name, elected by tanistry under the Brehon Laws, were called the Lords of Inishowen as they were the principal rulers in the northernmost peninsula of the island of Ireland."

Cheers! Fergananim 22:11, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Oops! Sorry about that. The thing is the Chiefs were purely a modern phonomena, and were not elected, or elected by tainstry. They were always traced by priomiginiture from the last acknowledged senior member of any given Clan alive in Gaelic times. Thus, Andrew Mac Murrough Kavanagh is The Mac Murrough Kavanagh because he is the senior in descent from Domhnall Spainnach MacMurrough-Kavanagh, King of Leinster, who died in 1632. Ditto for the O Connor Donn; Rory, The MacDermot Prince of Coolavin and the other Cheifs that the state recognised up to 1999.

Also, the term Cheifs of the Name was entirly an invention of the 20th century, albiet a very useful one. Back in former times, they were either known by their surname, or their title (for example, King of Moylurg, Kings of Ulster, taoiseach, tainste, etc). The terms "captain of his nation/race/name" and similar variations were terms applied by the English, only rarely used by the native Irish, and even then only to really low-class dynastys. Fergananim 23:33, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Prince Albert Raiders

I'm not sure who added all the stuff about the Arena renovations, but i think that section is best suited for the article about the arena itself. If you read the aritcle about the hockey team, it mentions more about the arena than the team. If there are no objections i propose to move that section to the arena article. Leave some feedback for me please, as i know you reverted the section. Flibirigit 00:49, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I've completed my revamp of the Prince Albert Raiders. Let me know what you think.

Would you be able to add the modern history stuff? Perhaps you could add a subsection after 1985? Flibirigit 23:37, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: Block settlement

Yes, block settlement is a geographical subject, but it is not a specific location, which is what geo-stubs are supposed to be for (the Canada-geo-stub template was for some reason worded differently to other geo-stub templates). It could be given a {{geo-term-stub}} as a piece of geographical terminology, but it makes more sense to list it as a historical item, since it relates more to the historical settlement of Canada than any geographical division still in existence. Grutness...wha? 00:45, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

On the subject of Superpowers

First off, usually you should respond to my comments on my talk page, so that I get a message notification.

Thanks for that little nugget.

Yes they each have their own merits, but to have an article on the EU but not on India is supremely biased.

To have an article on India just because there's one on the EU is supremely biased.

Simply consider the fact that India is a huge nation with a fast growing economy with a huge military.

Consider this: India is horribly over-populated. Officials are corrupt. Their nearest neighbout would love the chance to blow them to smithereens over Kashmir. It's economy only grows rapidly of the back of Western investment. It's economy is dwarfed by that of the EU and the US. It's military is dwarfed by that of the EU and US.

The thing about being a superpower is not being good, it's about being outstanding.

We should simply cataloge the facts, and show all reasonably stated and backed points of view.

We have done, it went up for deletion.

We do not make value judgements and call other's people's views "nationalist drivel".

We do on my talk page when you make comments like : Now you can lower the tone.

The articles on Russia and Japan deserved to be deleted because they already had sections on the page major powers and they didn't have any possible hope of comming up with enough facts to justify superpower status, not because Russian and Japanese nationalists are not allowed to express their views.

You do realise you just agreed with me there until you start ranting on about the rights of Russian and Japanese nationalists, for some reason. So close, yet so far.

I personally think that India will be a superpower that can rival the US.

The media doesn't. Everyone in charge doesn't. I don't even think India's leaders think it can. The US practially controls half the world. India controls... India. It has no Sphere of Influence.

The EU does; China does.

Stop treating the inclusion of India as a personal attack on you or Europe!!

I treated the inclusion of India with Europe in the VfD as unfair and unjust.

I have no problems with you, or with Europe. You just need to develop a thicker skin.

Point noted.

In other words grow up and get over it.

Oh dear. 2/10. Fell at the last hurdle.

I was almost starting to think you were sensible, thoughtful and manevolant. Trip: The Light Fantastic 22:54, 21 March 2006 (UTC)


Yes, we were trying to fix that bug and had tried a fix but because its a pretty rare error its hard to know if we fixed it. Sorry about that and good luck tonight vs the Canucks, the Oilers will need it :) -- Tawker 01:21, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Never! The Canucks have to keep it up (or else my playoff fund might go to waste with no tickets to buy), we need to make the playoffs to prevent a riot (and hope the Flames manage to go on an extended slump to let the Canucks jump 4 places in the standings. No worries, you guys have a great team, its always fun to watch the Oilers and Canucks play :) -- Tawker 01:31, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Lol, if my Canucks lose, I go into selective cheering mode, first Edmonton then Calgary. Enjoy tonights game, it should be fun one to watch (and we can hope Greg Millen will keep his mouth shut :) -- Tawker 23:32, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


I took a look at (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log) and blocked this user. If you run into a similar problem in the future, you should probably post it here. It will then be addressed quickly. -- JamesTeterenko 19:31, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

My comment to the article

I explained why the EU cant be counted as a superpower. And my comment in no way will trigger a political debate. (Deng 01:24, 25 March 2006 (UTC))

On that page I want to add nothing :D My comment was only a comment to what another person said on the talk page and yes I do understand that you only want people to make comments on what to add/remove from the page ;)

(Deng 01:16, 26 March 2006 (UTC))

More AWB cleanups

This is inconsistent with Wikipedia's expressed style policy on numbers. PLease see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Numbers_2. I made those changes by hand because they are correct per the style policy. Kelly Martin (talk) 00:21, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Edit summary

Hello. Please remember to always provide an edit summary. Thanks and happy editing. Steve block talk 07:47, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Allow me

At this time of the memorable day's awards I, Irpen, hereby give you this long overdue Exceptional Newcomer Award for your contribution towards several Ukraine related articles. Please keep up the good work! --Irpen 19:38, 8 May 2006 (UTC)


Please see this. Nobleeagle (Talk) 04:07, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

re: Ukrainian "Villages"

Hey Kevlar67, thanks for your post and for the disambig page. People searching for a Ukrainian Village will now find more than one choice on the menu. I too look forward to working with you on the wikipedia. Best regards, --Riurik 15:53, 24 July 2006 (UTC).

Irish women

I agree, so why not add a few? Fergananim 20:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, the following are out because -

1 - Most of the other Republican women are too divisive, and some have unsavory acts (re; Drumm) in their pasts. Bernadette MacAliskey would however be one who I would happily support, as I am not aware that she ever murdered or attempted to murder anyone.

2 - Maud Gonne was'nt Irish, so she's out too.

3 - Augusta Gregory would be a VERY good subject, as she is more of a cultural icon than political. Same for Kate O'Brien,

4 - Susan Lynch becuase she's georgous!

But overall the list on that site is terrible. There have being many more interesting women both past and present that we need to show. Eleanor Countess of Desmond is one worth looking up, as is Aoife MacMurrough! Fergananim 20:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


Re above, here's one beautiful lady! Maureen O'Sullivan Fergananim 22:33, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Invitation to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Eastern Orthodoxy

Hi there! I've noticed that you've edited articles pertaining to the Eastern Orthodox Church. I wanted to extend an invitation to you to join the WikiProject dedicated to organizing and improving articles on the subject, which can be found at: WikiProject Eastern Orthodoxy. This WikiProject was begun because a need was perceived to raise the level of quality of articles on Wikipedia which deal with the Eastern Orthodox Church.

You can find information on the project page about the WikiProject, as well as how to join and how to indicate that you are a member of the project. Additionally, you may be interested in helping out with our collaboration of the month. I hope you'll consider joining and thank you for your contributions thus far! —A.S. Damick talk contribs 03:28, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Ukrainian Cultural Heritage Village

Ні. I have only entered interwiki in Ukrainian Cultural Heritage Village. Translator uk:Користувач:Stanislav87. --Yakudza 09:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Togolese Prince Edward Islanders

Hey. I see some of what you're saying about the value of specific redlinks vs. generic "real" links when refering to ethnicity in an article like Prince Edward Island. As a side note, I didn't intend to revert. Maybe that was the effect, but I did actually spend some time trying to track down the most relevant links to articles that *do* actually exist. In addition, I think that we can both agree that the best solution would probably for you and I to get off our duffs and go create the appropriate pages regardless. Regardless or our backgrounds or specific knowledge, we could at least create stubs with some basic statistical information. I think that I still believe that a relevant link to a well-developed page like, say, Welsh people, especially because it includes some information about the diaspora populations, is better than a redlink, because the encylopedia is not just supposed to be consistent - it's also supposed to be useable. On the other hand, I completely agree that linking "Lebanese" to Demographics of Lebanon is probably not so useful, and your redlink might make more sense there (especially in that case, because "Lebanese" in Canada does not share meaning with the term "Lebanese" as it might be applied around the world, due to Lebanon's internal ethnic diversity.) Anyway, thanks for letting me know rather than simply changing back to your own version, and I might dig in and start creating articles (if I have time!) rather than just arguing over which other solution is second-best! AshleyMorton 11:20, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

re: Names

I never said every single name. I have no clue why you thought that. Besides, it looks like somebody already added some names. ---SilentRAGE! 12:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Ukraine hist stub

Hey Kevlar67, I wanted to bring this to you attention and ask for your support (if you agree). The discussion/vote on the stub is taking place here.

Upcoming Independence Day

Flag of Ukraine.svg ::August 24th, 2006

Happy Independence Day - Ukraine!

З Днем Незалежності України!

--Riurik 04:16, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

File:Maidan Fireworks.jpg
Huray! :) --Irpen 05:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Stephen Harper speech

Per your request, I've added a reference/link on the Council for National Policy page to Harper and his speech. I note that I removed the "See also" link, earlier, because of style/format issues, not because I thought it unnewsworthy.

I can't guarantee that the text I added will "stick", and you're welcome to edit it (before or after someone objects) to make it (possibly) more acceptable. I also note that using "What links here" [in the toolbox on the left side of every page, when in wikipedia], while at the CNP page, will list the Stephen Harper article, so, in a sense, there was already a link from CNP to Harper, albeit somewhat hidden and without details. John Broughton 12:31, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Driller (oil)

I've just deleted this article - it was a direct cut-and-paste of the page cited as a source. Please do not copy external material into Wikipedia without first confirming it can be freely reproduced. Shimgray | talk | 15:46, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology

Since you are interested in flags and emblems I would like to inform you that the WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology has just been created. Why not take a look? I hope you can join. Inge 21:03, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


Whether I think such a connection exists isn't particularly relevant as we don't insert information here based on intuition. Sentences that have phrasing like "can be see(n) as" are very often OR. The simplest way to avoid the concern is to source the sentence. If it's obvious, you should be able to find a source saying so. Marskell 09:32, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Lists vs Category links

Re: Lists vs Category links in navboxex: I don't know whether that's a rule, I meant it as another proposal. There are several advantages of lists over categories, like being in the main namespace (indexed by search engines), having some extra information, definition of terms, optimised-for-reading format, piped links, pictures, navigation and info boxes, etc. Cheers. --Qyd 14:38, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


I'm familiar with the Pembina River, having been over it many times. However, there is a reference to the "town of" Pembina in Edmonton. Having not heard of the place and wanting more information, I went to see what was there and added it to the list. Perhaps Edmonton could use the revision of your keen eye?

Pembina is indeed a place name in Alberta, even if it's not a community. You'll find many references to it in the oil & gas industry. MarkRose 00:27, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Re AB Towns map

It's still a work in progress, and my approach when adding towns was rather chaotic (I added names so I can keep count). Thanks for noticing the gaps, and please let me know if you see any other error. --Qyd 10:22, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

{{Frequent flyer}} NavBox

Thanks a lot for your addition of Air Miles to the {{Frequent flyer}} NavBox. It's a very popular program in Canada, and should definitely be in there.

I don't know if you noticed, but the {{Frequent flyer}} NavBox has just been nominated in Templates for Deletion. If you have an opinion on the matter please make it known there.

History of Saskatchewan

I have altered the wording as pertains to the ethnic block settlements, as they did conglomerate all over the west...Thanks for the heads up. Best wishes with your projects. SriMeshSriMesh Julia 16:53, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh my goodness, thank you!!

Well I was sure surprised to see your note about my latest venture. Thank you very much, I still want to do more on this article, the day keeps running out. Thanks again for your very kind words regarding Agriculture in Canada SriMeshSriMesh

Battle of Alberta

Thank you for removing the 'only one' tag, but I would have to disagree about it being the only source of contention. I still believe that the article shows a definite Pro-Oiler bias (which really burns me beacuse I'm the onhe who started the article in the first place!). Any ways, Calling the Oiler players 'Legends' while not giving a similar tag to the Flames leaders, or saying the 1986 series win was a 'moral victory', it does a disservice to both the Flames and the rivalry in general.The Oilers won more Cups, but don't forget that almost every time they did so they had to go through the Flames. Really, what you had were two very evenly matched teams where Gretzky was the difference. Sbmcmull

I generally agree with what you said in your message to me Kevlar, we should let the stats speak for themselves. In the playoff series, it's the Oilers with 4 wins (83, 83, 88 and 91) and the Flames with 1 (86), while in the regular season (so far) it's Flames 77, Oilers 70 and 19 ties [1]. Other team records include 2 President's Trophies each (86 & 87 Oilers, 88 & 89 Flames). As for furthering the context of the rivalry, in 1986 the Oilers were the best team in the NHL while the Flames were up and comers living in their neighbour's shadow,and while the '86 playoffs are 'infamous' to Oilers' fans, game seven was tied 2-2 and could have gone either way before Smith's own-goal. In 1988, the Flames were the best team in the NHL and the Oilers the underdogs, which is why the sweep is such a shocker to Flames fans. Sbmcmull

French romanization of Ukrainian

I have no idea if it is official, but see the "French" column of Romanization of Ukrainian#Table of romanization systems. This information was copied from the Dutch article nl:Romanisering van het Oekraïens.

I think everything about French orthography is dictated by the Académie française, so I wouldn't be surprised if this was an official standard. If you do find an authoritative reference, please let me know, or add it to Romanization of Ukrainian. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mzajac (talkcontribs) 01:18, 8 December 2006 (UTC).

Cyrillization of English

There is an official version, but I don't have a reference. It's something I've been trying to research.

If you're interested in the details, there was a unified system established in 1928, which continued to be used by Galicians (in Western Ukraine, under Poland) and in the diaspora. The Soviets eliminated the Ukrainian letter ge (ґ) and Russified the cyrillization system after 1933. There was another Ukrainianizing orthographic reform under Glasnost in 1989, but I don't know how or if it affected cyrillization. There are still differences between the systems used in Ukraine and in the rest of the world—the former carrying the weight of authority, but the latter considered more purely Ukrainian by the diaspora and some writers in Ukraine.

For a quick fix, I suggest you use a google search to pick a suitable cyrillization—at least with words and phrases containing the Ukrainian letters і, ї, and ґ; others may skew the figures with Russian, Bulgarian, or other results. Come to think of it, і is the common conjunction "and", which will probably appear on most Ukrainian-language pages. Try this:

Hm, not too significant. But uk:Канада says "Стівен Гарпер". Good luck. Michael Z. 2006-12-08 01:57 Z

Funny, there's also uk:Жерар Кеннеді, whose first name is phonetically transcribed from French, but the last is transliterated with a double н. Michael Z. 2006-12-08 02:18 Z