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Caution with OR and CFORK articles

@Malikhpur: You have been cutting and pasting large parts of articles such as Holi, Raksha Bandhan etc into Punjab articles such as this and this. You added unreliable blogs/websites and such sources, which are problematic by themselves, but many times even they do not verify what you claim they verify. Please see WP:OR and WP:CFORK guidelines. If you find reliable sources, please consider summarizing the source into the relevant section of the main article. WP:CFORK and WP:SUMMARY explain when an article split is appropriate. When you do copy-paste within wikipedia, please mention in your edit summary which article you are copy pasting from. Thank you, Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 01:49, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Festival dates

@Malikhpur: The website drikpanchang.com or other commercial websites are not reliable for festival dates. If you change festival dates in any wiki article, please search and cite official calendars released by state/provincial or central/federal governments of South Asian countries, which would be reliable. For example, Indian holiday dates would be reliably sourced from ".gov.in", Nepalese from ".gov.np" etc for the specific year of interest. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 04:07, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I realised the issue and am working on it. Malikhpur(talk) 09:36, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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		Dear Ian Harte77, I award you The Christianity Barnstar for all your hard work in WikiProject Christianity-related articles, especially your edits to the article about souling. Keep up the good work! Your efforts are making a difference here! With regards, AnupamTalk 04:37, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

@Anupam: Many thanks for your support. Is the Barnstar for Ian? User talk:Malikhpur 10:06, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome! The Barnstar is for you my friend! With regards, Anupam^Talk 20:03, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

@Anupam: Thank you. User talk:Malikhpur21:24 12 November 2018 (UTC)

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The article on Dulla bhatti clearly mentions him as a Gurjar. Please change that as well if you think otherwise. For how long you people keep ascribing the Gurjar history to Rajpoots? The Rajput article itself says that this term wasn’t used for any caste until 17th century. The Real Rana (talk) 15:55, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

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Punjabi folk religion

Instead of edit warring to restore the article by citing absence of discussion in violation of WP:STONEWALLING you are supposed to prove how the subject meets WP:GNG. You must show multiple scholarly sources providing significant coverage to this subject of "Punjabi folk religion". Edit warring without fulfilling this requirement will be reported. LearnIndology (talk) 13:13, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@LearnIndology: Thank you for your message. I had added scholarly sources. I am sure there has to be a discussion on the Talk Page before an article is redirected. The article has been in existence since 2011 with a number of page views. Please restore the article so that it can be improved. Punjabi folk religion exists as a concept. (Malikhpur) 15:11, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Article's creation date is no excuse. You are supposed to establish WP:GNG by showing significant coverage in scholarly sources. How many followers are there belonging to this made up 'religion'? LearnIndology (talk) 14:40, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@LearnIndology: It is a concept in anthropology akin to the Dravidian folk religion article on Wikipedia. There are scholars who have discussed this such as Virinder Kalra, Farina Mir, Ian Talbot etc. In Punjabi, writers such as Vanjara Bedi and Dr Darya. However, as you have already redirected the article again, I will not be commenting further. (Malikhpur) 15:42, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

There can be no false equivalence between this yet unconfirmed subject and Dravidian folk religion which no longer exist. LearnIndology (talk) 14:50, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Okay.Malikhpur) 16.13, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

I note what you say but I always thought that when an article is in existence, there has to be discussion on the talk page to make major changes. You mention scholars. I had added another source. The introduction was taken from Bhatti and Michon who are scholars in this field What is the procedure for reinstatement? I

(Malikhpur) 18:07, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

It is unclear if they provide significant coverage to this subject or even make a mention of it except the Greenwood source which does not provide it significant coverage. Ancestor worship isn't a unique phenomenon and many Sikhs engage in such worship too. LearnIndology (talk) 05:24, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Would you be willing to move the page to Folk practices of Punjab which would then cover such practices including ancestor worship? That way, there will not be a specific title Punjabi folk religion and would be in line with the sister page on Punjabi Wikipedia. Further, Bhatti and Michon also refer to Folk Practices of Punjab. When I created the article in 2010, the criteria was different for creating articles and I accept there are more stringent rules now. However, I believe the article is relevant albeit in a renamed form. Once moved, we could put a tag requiring others to help improve it. This would also enable editors to research further. Seminal work in this field has been done by Bhatti (2000) Link https://books.google.co.uk/books?newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&redir_esc=y&id=FpjXAAAAMAAJ&dq=folk+beliefs+punjab&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=folk+religion

(Malikhpur) 24 June 2021 (UTC)

I have restored and renamed the article. You can further clean it up. LearnIndology (talk) 12:16, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. (Malikhpur) 13:29, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

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Hi Malikhpur, can you cast a quick vote in the ongoing discussion at Talk:Religion in the Punjab? Per our exchange there a few months ago and your assent, I have proposed a move back to the original title of the page, Folk religion in Punjab, after significantly expanding it a few weeks ago in regards to folk beliefs. We currently have 2 in support (including myself), and 2 opposing (including the original page mover). Your vote as the page creator would help break the current gridlock. Sapedder (talk) 16:04, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

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