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Hello Mufka. My only reason for trimming whitespace at article October 7, is that frequently, whenever someone edits the page, their edit gets tagged "Tag: excessive whitespace"... more or less alerting recent-change patrollers of a potential issue. The purpose of my edit was to help eliminate false alarms applied to good edits. Though it's nothing I'd argue about, I really don't see the point in preserving or maintaining strings of blank in-line whitespace that serves no purpose to the article. My edit did not alter any existing text, it just tightened up the source-page, and kept everything uniformly the same from top to bottom. The other 364 similar articles could perhaps use a bit of cleaning up as well, but fear not, I'll refrain from wasting time editing in ways deemed unproductive. Have a nice day :) -- WikHead (talk) 00:46, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I see your point about the abuse filter, but I watch all of the date pages and it doesn't happen frequently enough to be an annoyance. The reason for the spacing layout is so that the pages can be easily patrolled for anomalies. With everything lined up consistently, it is easy to see if things are overlinked, underlinked, or not in the correct format. For example, in the version that you edited, if I were looking to see that everything had an – instead of a hyphen, I'd get a headache real quick. It has no impact on the displayed page, but it helps immensely when editing it. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 11:43, 2 September 2009 (UTC)


I'm just adding some facts or latest information about Darna. please I'm editing Darna's page clean and fair! please don't warn me....— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbr999 (talkcontribs)

Now what, Impy is killed by Darna. that's latest! please bear with me. I'm not vandalize the whole Darna page.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbr999 (talkcontribs)

If these are facts, you must be getting them from somewhere. Add reliable sources or you will be blocked. You will not get another warning. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 12:58, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

How can I add resources? please don't block me. I'm editing Darna page fair and square then you are accusing me of vandalism which i didn't do it...

I'm not accusing you of vandalism, I'm accusing you of being disruptive by not adding sources. We can't build an encyclopedia on your original research. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 13:06, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

how can i be a mod?

please tell me how can i be a mod? I'm re-editing any articles clean and fair.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbr999 (talkcontribs)

You're a long way from that if you can't follow the rules. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 13:04, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

OK MUFKA! here is the additional info about the latest!

Here is what happened a while ago in Darna...

Darna stabs Impy to death while Roma is getting to die because of Impy and then her body has taken by Kobra.

so the adventures of Darna continues...



I have an info about the latest episode of Darna

Kobra has an ability to revive dead creatures and humans by biting using his fangs just like what he did to Valentina and Roma (Babaeng Impakta). That's the latest info I've ever seen. Please don't ban me. Just look at Darna's page.

You don't need to tell me a story, you need to provide sources for the content you are adding. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 13:14, 4 September 2009 (UTC)


Mufka, what is this dedicated list exclusionism that is taking place? I would like to hear your view. B9 hummingbird hovering (talkcontribs) 15:10, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

My view is clearly laid out in the talk page. Judging from the placement of your comment on that talk page, it seems that you might have read the wrong section. If my views are not clear, I'd be glad to elaborate. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 22:46, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Computer TakeBack Campaign

Somehow this discussion got orphaned. It wasn't transcluded on the log for the 15th and has been opened since then. It currently has 2 keeps and 2 deletes. I have relisted it onto the log for the 4th and have sorted it. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:19, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

That's odd. Looks like Twinkle screwed to pooch on that one. The related one got put in just fine right before this one. My fault nonetheless. Thanks for picking it up. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 21:27, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Just noticed that the related AFD was just closed "no consensus". It will be quite a mess if "Computer TakeBack Campaign" is closed "delete". --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:16, 6 September 2009 (UTC)


Yes, I know. I am an idiot. Good night :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by BSJWright (talkcontribs) 21:15, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Kristen McNamara

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An article that you have been involved in editing, Kristen McNamara, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kristen McNamara. Thank you.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 23:48, 18 September 2009 (UTC)


Dear Mufka, I have now changed the article's editor note to the following:

If this is not acceptable to you or others let us now please proceed to mediation. Thank you for your effort. Yours Mootros (talk) 18:13, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

June 27

As Jesus College, Oxford has been in and out of the list, I've opened discussion at Talk:June 27#Jesus College, Oxford. Regards, BencherliteTalk 09:23, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Blasphemy day

Try google.

Regards. (talk) 22:06, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. That's not how it works. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 22:14, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Apologies. I should have read that before I posted that edit. I saw the other page(s) which lack references and assumed that it was possible to add new events, but I should have checked the policy. Regards, (talk) 22:17, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

JLS Album

Could the protection status enabled for the creating of the JLS (album) page now be removed as the album title, album cover and track listing are now available on, therefore passing WP:NALBUMS RM-Taylor (talk) 23:28, 30 September 2009 (UTC) Note: Please also note that a rather poor basic page has been created at Jls (album) so could this be closed and deleted? RM-Taylor (talk) 23:28, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. It doesn't meet WP:NALBUMS. A track listing is not sufficient, it needs significant independent coverage in reliable sources which this does not have. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 10:27, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

You deleted my page before I had finished it.

I seem to find that with Wikipedia people delete my pages before I finish them. So could you be so kind as to help me in making sure that the article that has been repeatedly deleted which I have been asked to make stays up? Thank you. (Scepticide (talk) 23:33, 11 October 2009 (UTC))

In order to lower your frustration level, it would be best if you created your new articles in your user space (e.g. User:Scepticide/Metal_Safari). Then you can get them to the point where you think they meet requirements and ask for input from others by using the {{helpme}} tag on your talk page. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 23:38, 11 October 2009 (UTC)


you deleted my page for "Advertisement", however, the page only contain information about the site. There are no advertisement, the article is just like the accepted /Film and Google article. please reconsider (H3llo41 (talk) 20:29, 12 October 2009 (UTC))

You should read WP:WEB and then if you feel that this site meets the notability requirements, then create the page in your user space at User:H3llo41/Movieviral. Once you have it the way that you want it, use the {{helpme}} tag on your talk page asking for input. Then you can get input from others to see if the article is likely to get deleted. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 23:07, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Out of control robot and subsequent discussion.

You may like to look at this. Wikipedia:Bot_owners'_noticeboard#FoxBot_making_changes_to_date_pages_against_page_format

I can not find the discussion about using ndash rather than another form, although I know it was chosen to prevent inexperienced editors using a hyphen. You may wish to comment. --Drappel (talk) 14:53, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Witchy2006 IP socks

I've found a spitload of socks that he used. Most of their edits are just flaming in the Tayong Dalawa talk page. Just a heads-up. Thanks. --Eaglestorm (talk) 02:01, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

If they're more than just IP socks, let me know or make a SPI case. I haven't been blocking all of its IP because I've been busy elsewhere - but I've noticed them all. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 10:25, 17 October 2009 (UTC)


User:Oras ng paghihiganti just reported you to AIV, clearly another sock.--Giants27(c|s) 19:21, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Blocked as such. Thanks. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 19:23, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

What is your problem?

Stop deleting the Tahar article. Thanks, Starblueheather . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Starblueheather (talkcontribs) 00:47, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

STOP PLEASE. Thanks, Starblueheather.

I have attempted to fix my mistake. Thank you for your patience and understanding. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 01:33, 18 October 2009 (UTC)


Please please please undo the damage you have done. The history of Tahar Douis only goes back like 20 minutes. YOU HAVE NO GOOD REASON TO DELETE EVERYTHING FROM BEFORE THEN SO PLEASE GIVE THEM BACK. Thanks, Starblueheather. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Starblueheather (talkcontribs) 01:45, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

AAAAAAARGH what is your problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Starblueheather (talkcontribs) 01:47, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm looking at [1] where it looks like you deleted at least 21 versions of the Tahar Douis article I wrote. And it looks like you are claiming that your deletions of my work is just "routine (non-controversial) cleanup." I DISAGREE. I find what you are doing to be completely unnecessary and totally controversial. What is your problem that you keep deleting my stuff? PUT IT BACK PLEASE. Thanks, Starblueheather. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Starblueheather (talkcontribs) 02:05, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Deletion review for Tahar Douis

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Tahar Douis. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Starblueheather (talk) 06:16, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I just wanted to say that after just skimming through the comments and the review, you handled yourself very well and kept it cool. You deserve a cookie.--TParis00ap (talk) 20:24, 18 October 2009 (UTC)


i was trying to make a page and you deleted it before i could even finish it, would like to know what the difference is between a page about eric ervin who was in a band that is on wikipedia and every other member of that band has a page with their further accomplishments, which is what i was trying to do. so could you please explain..--Oldramon1 (talk) 00:25, 20 October 2009 (UTC)eric

The individual does not seem to meet notability requirements detailed in WP:BIO. If you have sources to support the individual's notability, feel free to recreate the article. If you need any help, please ask. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 00:33, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

the sources of notability are 4 articles on wikipedia

Morning Again The Cleanest War Hand of Hope Morning Again (album)

--Oldramon1 (talk) 00:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)eric

Unfortunately, you cannot use other articles as sources. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 10:21, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
And by signing your name as Eric, this indicates that you might be Eric Ervin. If so, you are strongly discouraged from writing about yourself. Please see WP:AUTOBIO. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 10:23, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Protection of your pages

I semi'ed your user and talk-pages to quench some trolling. Feel free to undo or adjust obviously. DMacks (talk) 04:51, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. That's just User:GMA Fan being a nuisance. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 10:20, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Deleted page

You deleted this page last month; I’ve re-created it, as I had a query. I don’t know if that causes a problem at all, so I thought I'd better let you know. Moonraker12 (talk) 13:21, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Kim Chiu‎

Thanks for declining the speedy. I was trying to nominate another article that had been previously deleted as a hoax (copy of this article with another name), the article was recreated as a redirect and I did not spot that. Have added a speedy to the original article as an implausible typo. noq (talk) 00:05, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Why do you keep removing JLS album?

There is no need to remove this page because the album will be released within 2 weeks and the page will be created nonetheless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Badapro (talkcontribs)

Consensus was formed to merge and redirect the article. If you disagree with consensus. make a case at WP:DRV. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 01:20, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Template:Time of day in words/doc

Yes, I did accidentally tag this for deletion instead of the redirect that is automatically created by the move. I marked to {{hangon}} pronto. Thanks for deleting the SPEEDY, I could of course have done it myself but, perhaps mistakenly, I thought it was not the done thing to remove one's own deletion requests?

Please advise if I made a mistake of process since obviously this makes work for you poor admins for a silly mistake, but in other areas also if I mistakenly add a deletion or similar (e.g. "this page has now been translated" at WP:PNT) I leave it for another to move or remove, as I think it gives better visibility to others that way, at the expense of making work for admins or peers for stuff I could as easily do myself.

Best wishes Si Trew (talk) 11:56, 31 October 2009 (UTC) (11:56 Proper English Time)

If you tag it for speedy deletion, you certainly can (and should) undo your mistake. It's more work for an admin to restore a page that was mistakenly deleted - not much, but a waste of time nonetheless. You just can't remove speedy deletion tags that other editors have placed on articles that you have created. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 12:00, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


Bit speedy with the delete I thought. It was under discussion and I was getting help. Any chance that I can contiue the improvements please.(Pete.sonderskov (talk)) —Preceding undated comment added 12:23, 31 October 2009 (UTC).

However - I can see that this advice is helpful. You siaid "In order to lower your frustration level, it would be best if you created your new articles in your user space (e.g. User:Scepticide/Metal_Safari). Then you can get them to the point where you think they meet requirements and ask for input from others by using the "helpme tag" on your talk page"

I'll give that a go and ask you to have a look at it when ready, if that's OK.(Pete.sonderskov (talk))

I was about to suggest that again to you, but I see you've found it. Good luck. Ask if you have any questions. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 12:34, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

ok sir Newsfuse (talk).. if u dont like i will remove it, :) —Preceding undated comment added 13:42, 31 October 2009 (UTC).

GMA Fan?

Just recreated List of GMA Network's Celebrities. What do you think? MuZemike 07:04, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Possible, but it seems odd that it wouldn't have been picked up in some of the previous checkusers. This account has been around since March. It would have to go through WP:SPI and a checkuser. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 11:20, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

You deleted simon foster

I feel sad, as you have deleted simon foster's wikipedia page. He does serve a purpose in the world ( he did the graphics for a very popular computer game (roller coster tycoon) followed by multiple other games by chris sawyer. I felt that his page did have a rightful place on wikipedia. could you please put it back? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickeox (talkcontribs) 02:27, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

An Endless Sporadic (band)

Can you please WP:SALT this article? It (along with An Endless Sporadic) have been created numerous times and have been deleted just as many times. An Endless Sporadic is already salted. Thanks! TheWeakWilled (T * G) 00:21, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Contribution on November 13

In order to learn... Why you considered my contribution (November 13th) as a potential conflict of interest? My information is 100% reliable, non-commercial, and the links provided are to a source ad-free non commercial...

Many thx in advance for your attention,

Daniel --Himajina (talk) 22:40, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Already replied at Talk:November 13. Let's keep the conversation there. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 22:42, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Dates pp

OK, thanks for letting me know! I'll read those guidelinesEugene-elgato (talk) 00:03, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry just noticed you wanted it all on my own talkpage; apologies ! Eugene-elgato (talk) 18:26, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Tim Curry

Hi, you left me a talk message saying "have not conformed to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and have been reverted." However, none of my edits have been reverted. The only page I could think of that I edited recently was the Tim Curry page when I put back in a credit. I stated why I put the credit back in. In this case it was a listing that Tim Curry was in the new SyFy Channel movie called "Alice" playing the character of "Dodo." This is fact, Alice commercials are being run continuously on the Syfy channel even including a special mention of Tim Curry- It's also listed on their official website and IMDB. None of the other credits on his page list sources, so I didn't think this one need to be listed either. Please let me know and I will do so. Thanks! Circleof05ths (talk) 02:48, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

If it is fact, please provide the source of the information in the article. It is true that many of the other credits do not have sources, but they all should. The newest entries always get attention first. If you get in the habit of providing the source with all of your edits, you won't have to worry about your edits being reverted. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 11:43, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

How about if I put something like "Below is a list of roles according to IMDB." I have never had a problem with previous edits and my edits on his page has NOT been reverted or deleted. So, I'm still only assuming that it's this page that is the problem. I can't comment on any of the other roles listed since I didn't put them there. It does seem a bit odd that each role is going to have to have a source. When do they move into the realm of common public knowledge? For example, if someone listed James Bond as a role for Sean Connery would that have to be sourced? Sorry to ask so many questions, I just want to make sure I have an understanding of this. Thanks. Circleof05ths (talk)

Keep in mind that IMDB is not a reliable source. Everything must be sourced. Everything. While you and I might think that you'd have to be living on Mars to not know that Sean Connery was James Bond, this is an encyclopedia, and everything must have a source. Even things that are common knowledge must be sourced. Something that seems common knowledge to you might not be so to another reader. This particular edit is relatively minor and these tend to slip by. It would help if the entry included a link to an existing article about the topic, but you must also know that you can't use another article as a source. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 23:06, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Kim Eng Holdings Limited

Hi Mufka, <br\> Please specify how do you think the article violates neutral point of view. The article is actually a short introduction and requires more work. There are sources given for the content included. It is not written in all-positive-tone. Its not trying to sell anything. It just consists basic facts like what the company does. Can you please remove your objections. (talk) 01:28, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Regardless of the content of the article, the community should know that it was written by a representative of the company. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 01:33, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi Mufka,<br\> Oh yes, I'm very much a representative of this company. What proof do I show you? I'm heading the Web 2.0 project in this company. (talk) 01:55, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I already know you are a representative of the company. You should let other, uninvolved editors edit the article about your company. If the company is notable, someone else will write about it. You have a conflict of interest and it would be very difficult for you to write objectively about the company. The fact that you are writing about it at all indicates that you want to promote the company and that is not allowed. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 02:03, 8 December 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for clarification. This is just a short introduction and as I said already nothing is written to promote the company. You can see it in the content yourself. More content can be added by "uninvolved editors" to this short introduction. You've tagged the article with a "cleanup" message, if you think there is any part of article which seems to be promoting the company, you and others can clean it up.

But, I still don't see it violating any of your rule. While creating this article, sombody already said that the article has a too-positive-tone and I have edited it to make it sound neutral. Now, there is no reason for you to object again. I appreciate your help. (talk) 02:14, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

It's not really a "violating rules" problem, the tag is going to stay there. This is because many of the people who read Wikipedia trust it as a neutral source that is not related to the company. They deserve to know that the main writer of the article is related to the company, whether the article is neutral or not.
No proof is needed, it's easy enough to tell from your IP address. And because you are new to Wikipedia and linked strongly with this company, your edits may be promotional without seeming like it.
The cleanup tag is there because having a whole list of sources is not what we need. We need each fact you put in the article, to be followed by a source, so we know what information came from where. Sources that are not used in the article are pointless. If you'd like more help with citing sources or any other issues feel free to ask me. Š¡nglî§h §Þëªk£r ♪♫ 08:52, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WBQK

Thanks for closing that. I tried, but was reverted. - Neutralhomer (talk) 12:32, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WBQK

Please change your closure of the AfD, as some are taking it as it is not. The AfD did not run the full amount of days, and was withdrawn, not kept.— dαlus Contribs 22:27, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Don't ask the admin to change the closure because you don't like it. I had originally "non-admin" closed it as a Keep, even after the withdraw because it was a clear snow keep regardless of your withdrawn. The AfD is over, it was a VERY bad AfD to begin with and should be forgotten about. Move on, Dude. - NeutralHomerTalk • 22:57, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Withdrawn is the correct result. Neutralhomer, take your own advice and move on. Your comments are not helpful. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 00:52, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

So, when I want something next time I just whine, edit war, and go to every admin to get my way and it will happen? Cool. I will keep that in mind. This isn't helpful, Daedalus969's behavior is undermining admin's authority. Plus this is the second really REALLY bad AfD he has created today (and according to another user just among several in past days). No admonishment to him, just caving. - NeutralHomerTalk • 04:36, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Please stop taking this so personally. First of all, I did not go to every admin. I went to the single one who closed it. Secondly, when an AfD is withdrawn, the result is never keep, it is withdrawn, always. So what, they were bad afds. Every user makes mistakes every now and then, I don't need you shoving it in my face like it isn't already apparent. Please, drop this.— dαlus Contribs 05:22, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
I take it personally because it is my work (I created WBQK) underfire and I don't like having users running all over God's creation to get something changes and edit-warring the whole way to get that "perfered outcome". It was a snow keep long before you marked it withdrawn. What the admin decides is up to that admin, not a user jumping up and down going "teacher, look at me". The admin decided "keep", hell I said "keep" (non-admin) but was reverted. So two people said keep regardless of the withdraw. Why it was so important that your withdraw was recorded for all to see, I am unsure, but that is what annoys and bothers me most. You jumped up and down until you got your way. What disturbs me is the poor AfDs. Yes, people make mistakes, but not 3 in the span of a couple days (2 just today). Those don't seem to be mistakes. Intentional, I honestly hope not, but it disturbs me. I think you need a Wikibreak to learn from your "mistakes" and come back with some fresh eyes, trust me, it does help. - NeutralHomerTalk • 05:29, 10 December 2009 (UTC)