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July 2006

Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Omicronpersei8! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. - Glen 07:50, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

PS: This'll help with the Ronnie Coleman vandal! :)


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This RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar has been awarded for your excellent work defending Wikipedia from vandalism. Gray Porpoise 21:40, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Counter-Vandalism Unit

as a new user of Vandalproof, does that make me a member of the Counter-Vandalism Unit? or is that something totally separate? Drmagic 23:54, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so, because that's just some title someone gave me a while back. There are no requirements for being in it -- you just put the proper userbox on your user page/talk page. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 23:57, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Material Girl (Hilary Duff cover)

Perfect! Thanks so much, I really appreciate the correction. I noticed what I had done and I wasn't sure what to do to change it, so it's great that you've made the changes. Thanks again! --Sergio Á. 13:56, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


For reverting my userpage. I had just reverted the same for two other people, so they decied that I would be a good target. ViridaeTalk 07:57, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem, they were after me too. Nothing new, right? Omicronpersei8 (talk) 07:58, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Nope - and it doesn't suprise me. AOL vandals are so irritating. ViridaeTalk 08:02, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Likewise for me—your vandalism reverts are much appreciated. -- Scientizzle 08:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome any time. Thanks for doing my reverts, too. Omicronpersei8 (talk) 08:34, 2 July 2006 (UTC)


your rejection of my revision and claiming it to be "nonsense" is unsupported and wrong. The derogatory term, "Spic" is a derivative of the older "Spig" which evolved from the stereotypical response from a Mexican immigrant-"No Spigga de English" ("No Speak the English" My revision of the (incorrect) entry that already exists is correct and should stand in the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 19:25, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

One supporting item:;_ylt=ArWu36BFIQN7H1zuxd21_.isgMMF —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 19:29, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, you appear to be right. agrees too. I apologize -- I really thought it was just a racist joke edit. Omicronpersei8 (talk) 19:33, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

thanks for catching the Vandal

Thanks for stopping the vandalism to my userpage. Betacommand 02:33, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Re-introducing copyright violations

G'day Omicronpersei8,

I appreciate you're a member of the Counter-Vandalism Unit, but this edit (reverting to a copyright violation) was rather silly, even for CVU. Please be more careful in future. Thanks, fuddlemark (befuddle me!) 09:32, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, judging by my talk page, I obviously do make mistakes. For some reason, I also have the dubious honor of being called out almost every time I do. I guess I figured, given that an IP blanking a page is usually a case of vandalism, and that errors like mine are easily reverted, that I would get some sort of understanding for not having gone back and checked three posts prior. Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:35, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Mate, I fixed a copyright violation on an article (then reverted when it was re-introduced). You reverted me, with the edit summary "rvv". I'm sure you can understand why that might cause concern. As for being called out almost every time you make a mistake, well, that's a good thing. Just think how quickly you're learning! :) fuddlemark (befuddle me!) 08:02, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the lesson! -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 23:34, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Unblank the Talkpage

I see you unblanked the talk page of the IP adress I am using now. It is an IP adress from a pool, here is the RIPE Whois:

You could also have checked yourself. You can see the pool in the listing. It is true that this IP was assigned to me for a long time, but this is because we share a router that is almost always online, plus this IP survived last few resets (like 3 per year I suspect). However, we didn't pay for a static IP adress and it also happened before that the IP changed and it can change anytime. Moreover, even this IP is shared by more individuals who are connected to the router. Any the comments left on the talk page would certainly be inappropriate, moreover, these were no warnings, just messages for me, and I have seen them and I don't need them anymore. Please don't unblank the talk page. 22:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

That's not how it works here. Talk pages are preserved, regardless of who is currently using them, so that vandalism from a certain provider can be tracked, among other reasons. If you don't like the messages being in your user talk space, then create your own account. It's also very suspicious to me that you are specifically blanking a version of your talk page that shows that your IP has been trying to "recruit" voters for a poll [1]. Furthermore, seeing that your IP has been blocked for said actions and also having seen your IP's POV vandalism to the Jimbo Wales/Statement of principles page makes one unsure about complying with you before some deliberation.
User page blanking is generally considered a form of vandalism, especially when something is being "covered up"; the correct thing to do with conversations you don't want is archive them. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 23:24, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
How does it work here?
Talk page vandalism
Deleting the comments of other users from article Talk pages, or deleting entire sections thereof,  
is generally considered vandalism. Removing personal attacks is often considered legitimate, and it 
is considered acceptable to archive an overly long Talk page to a separate file and then remove the 
text from the main Talk page. The above does not apply to the user's own Talk page, where users 
generally are permitted to remove and archive comments at their discretion, except in cases of 
warnings, which they are generally prohibited from removing, especially where the intention of the 
removal is to mislead other editors.
There were no warnings on my talkpage. The fact that the other users discussed the block with me doesn't matter - these were not the blocking admins, just people who watched this and encouraged me to get an account etc., these comments are no warnings. Per WP:VAN, I can remove the text at my discretion. The block log is sufficient for any user, and should someone really be interested in what happened to that IP, anyone can check the history of the talkpage.
However, to restore the {helpme} and {unblock} tags, not spending the time checking what you've restored and then spend ten minutes writing this "I am sooooo much better than you" comment on your talkpage is making me think that you are too zealous. You know that disrupting wikipedia {helpme} and {unblock} processes by maliciously placing these tags on someone else's talkpage should be considered vandalism? You even got someone to come and warn me about misusing {helpme}. Luckily, I didn't get blocked for your actions. I should place a warning on your talk page but I assume good faith and believe that you didn't want to do this. However, I will report you to AN/I and ask someone to calm you down in your zealousness. Greetings 06:40, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
They weren't warnings, but were clear indicators of questionable goings-on. Commander Keane's edit wasn't a warning, just a comment. I didn't tell anyone to go to your talk page. I've asked, and there appears to be no clear rule against me doing those reverts, as long as I don't exceed three. Some people did advise against it, after I followed the okay of the first post in my query to Village pump (policy). I won't bother reverting again, at any rate, and thanks for going the extra mile and archiving your talk page. Sorry if you're feeling cornered; I'll back off.
Regarding {{helpme}} and {{unblock}}, those were my fault, and I wasn't really thinking about it, but the person who replied afterwards didn't seem too troubled about it, and was just addressing some of your comments. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 06:52, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
OK, sorry, I already posted on AN/I because I thought you are gonna revert again, I will strike it out though.
I would rather you leave it. Maybe you're right about me being overzealous. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 06:57, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Crossposted from WP:ANI:

  • Omicronpersei8 is actually being noble. Omi asked for advice at the Village Pump to which I responded, and I believe the actions taken were based on my advice. To the best of my knowledge Omicronpersei8's hasn't actually violated any policy, or even guideline. --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 07:14, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I guess the moral of this story is: Free advice is worth exactly what you pay for it :) I'm pleased that things worked out well. Kudos to you both. --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 07:16, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the defense. I should probably have waited and deliberated longer before doing the edit. You certainly aren't implicit in any errors I've made here. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 07:18, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Quick Review

Hi Omi, I just pulled up your stats using Intertiot/Tool2 and quickly perused your contribs. I think your contributions and conduct fairly scream "Admin material!" and I'll be looking forward to voting "Support" on your RfA a few months from now :) --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 07:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

You are a swell guy/gal for saying that. I think I've proven I really need to review site guidelines quite a bit more before even thinking about something like that, though. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 07:53, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm a guy, and I often assume other editors are male unless some subtle clue (like the name "Linda123") suggests otherwise. As for the things you need to learn, that will come with time and it won't take long. Keep in mind that it's almost impossible to interact in this community without occassionaly getting involved in some minor controversy from time to time. The important part is how you handle yourself when the feces is hitting the fan. BTW - I actually had a somewhat similar incident recently: I had asked advice from an Admin with over 10K edits, and then I followed it. But another editor made a minor fuss so I reverted myself, we talked it over, and then we managed to reach a good consensus. It was definitely a learning experience, and I suspect you feel the same. Keep up the good work, and I hope to see you around :) --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 08:20, 8 July 2006 (UTC)


For diligence in fighting vandalism across Wikipedia, I award you the RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar. Thank you! Johntex

RE: User:

Whenever you have to revert an edit like what you had to do at article Omarosa Manigault, you should let the vandalizer know that vandalism isn't allowed so that the IP Anon would know that you would not tolerate it again. Just my 2 cents. — The Evil in Everyone (U * T/R * CTD) 22:00, 9 July 2006 (UTC) P.S. Generally in situations like this, it's best to act anonymously to the vandalizer to protect your reputation.

I usually give a leeway of two or three vandalisms before a warning, but thanks for the input. And why should I hide my identity? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 22:02, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
The reason why I recommended hiding your identity is because generally, whenever it's a vandal, it's to prevent the vandal from getting revenge against you.
In other words, I usually fight vandalism harshly, but should I just give the Vandalizer some chances to clean up before action needs to be taken? In addition, I usually use the {{subst:test1}} template for the first revert so that people can actually be aware that the sandbox is the place to do all of their tests.
But if you know how to combat vandalism, then I won't debate any longer, since I'm pretty sure you know what to do. — The Evil in Everyone (U * T/R * CTD) 22:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)


You might want to archive your talk page. It is getting a bit long. If you need help, I can show you how. Thanks. Heavy Metal Cellisttalkcontribs

I will probably do that at the end of this month. That cool with you? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 22:32, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind, I'll do it now. I'm getting messages more rapidly than I had anticipated. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 06:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

'nother Barnstar

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My first patrol and I see your name all over the place, figured you should have one more of these. Kedi the tramp 22:52, 9 July 2006 (UTC)


Thanks. I had it put in the front page, but then moved it in here after seeing that you keep these in here.

It's been fun to wander through Lupin's Recent IP Edits, got busted 12 dudes on first patrol. Either I'm fast... or just have way too much time on my hands. ;P

Thanks and I'll keep in my mind if I ever need anything. Good luck with those punks! Kedi the tramp 23:10, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

User should be deleted

User Andrewia frequently vandalizes under other IP's and even vandalized my own page.

He should be deleted from Wikipedia —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 03:37, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

All I know is that I'm seeing two people doing what looks like user page vandalism and I feel like I should intervene. If you have a problem with that person, take it to somewhere like WP:AN. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:39, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Are you Alegoo92? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:40, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


Well yes, my sons use that predominantly, but I may occasionally use it also. -- 04:00, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, well, I reverted the vandalism to that user page. I don't really understand what was going on between Alegoo92 and Andrewia, but it appears to have stopped. If I see what looks like vandalism to said user pages, I will likely revert them again unless I recognize the IP, so it may be best to log in while editing your user page. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:03, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
I warned Andrewia and according to him, he was joking. [2] - Gogo Dodo 04:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
It's just so hard to tell sometimes. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
No worries. I reacted the same way you did. -- Gogo Dodo 04:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
And thanks for the heads up, by the way. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Wake Forest Student Government Picture

What was wrong with the picture??? I didn't steal it from anyone. It was an original photo. No vandalism whatsoever. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 04:09, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

What happened was you accidentally put "thum" by itself on a line and I clicked the rollback button to remove it. I never expected vandalism or copyright infringement from you -- I was just trying to get that little error out of the way. This machine is slow, so when the rollback finally happened, it also overwrote your newer edit. However, it doesn't appear to have removed the image. Am I wrong about that?
Sorry for the confusion. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Okay, now I see what happened. The reversion went back to your previous edit, that had the JPG extension of the file in lowercase, which was an invalid link. My bad. I plead "mechanical failure". -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:17, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Bittorrent Trackers

I started adding a list of tracker scripts to the page and the sections were deleted. It would be one thing if I was adding a list of trackers, but as these are scripts to start a tracker, there is no reason to remove these. Please keep this in mind as I change the names to include the word "scripts". Also, I changed the word "indexes" to "indexers", as it is... wrong. Index reflects function, indexer reflects purpose. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 04:45, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I realize now that you are adding the titles of software trackers, but at first I thought you were going to list public tracker sites. That was my misunderstanding, but it's really a better idea to initialize a section with content, not placeholder messages. At any rate, as I said in my edit comment, I was only going to revert your edit once and then step back. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:48, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Link for reader reference. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. --expert01 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 05:54, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


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I award you this Barnstar in recognition of the tireless efforts you put in to patrol the Recent Changes. People like you keep Wikipedia prestine, and that's the way I like it. Keep the good work up! Killfest2 06:45, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Speedying a prodded page

If you want to speedy-delete a prodded page (like Kitten Huffing), please leave the prod tag there (so the page has both a prod and a speedy tag). That way, if the speedy-delete fails, the prod is still there. --ais523 09:38, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll replace it, but my train of thought is that there's no way it'll not be speedied, unless this is some big joke I'm not in on (and I think that's the case). If you noticed, I SD'd it and an admin removed it claiming it wasn't nonsense, switching to {{prod}}. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 09:40, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Did you notice that the redlink Category:Inside jokes was added at the bottom? This is a well-known Uncyclopedia article; like Kitten huffing, it should probably simply be a redirect to Uncyclopedia. However, given the page history, it seems unlikely that that'll happen for the time being; if it's still like that in a few days, AfD might be needed to kill it. --ais523 09:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
I figured as much; thanks for letting me in on it. Now I only feel halfway stupid! -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 09:45, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I've just marked it copyvio. Luckily, Uncyclopedia seems to be on a non-commercial licence... --ais523 09:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

AOL vandalbot

Hi. I range blocked for another 12 hours (comes back immediately after the block). Cheers TigerShark 09:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Excellent. Thank you. I don't suppose there's anything that can really be done except range blocking. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 09:57, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Why did you remove my changes?

Because you're a racist troll. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 12:20, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Do not edit or remove my postings. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 11:35, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

No. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 12:20, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Dear Omicronpersei8: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 13:41, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
But ...! Sorry. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 13:41, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

oh shush

I'll say what I want and to whom, that's free speech. Go look up a principal of America and the Internet and stop trying to censor others. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 19:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

You just don't like the message because your are ignorant

Please see my comments to TigerShark, they apply to you as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 19:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

The irony of what you just used as a heading really made me giggle. Also, I have referred you to WP:AIV. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 19:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


sorry but that piece of information on wikipedia is a lie. it should be taken off, it is absolutely a ridiculous attempt at degrading a religion based on opinions and false premises. please take it off and leave it off as it has no place in the pokemon wiki.

if i started saying that dogs are evil creatures from mars would that be enough to have an entry on wikipedia saying "man claims dogs are evil creatures from mars" no right? so why should a few whackjobs making far out claims about a cartoon get put on that wiki? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 01:53, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I won't argue whether that section should be removed or not, but you need to justify your removal of it with at least an edit comment. Otherwise, I can't tell if it's a case of vandalism or not. In this case, however, it seems a discussion on the talk page would be in order, if you haven't participated in one already. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 15:10, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
And please -- this isn't the way to get your point across. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 15:16, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

"Edit War"

It's fine. :) I have such a range of different articles on my watchlist but pages like that are major copyright problems, since it's a pain to get pictures within the GFDL. I hope everything goes fine with you, and I am certain our paths will cross again. Thanks! Yanksox 23:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Egg Snake

This page is about a little known culteral aspect of west coast tradition. Several coastal regions in British Columbia continue to keep the tradition alive by offering the egg snake in thier establishment's menu, and serve it in the same style as it once was served by the merchant sailers. If you have a problem with the writing of the page, please feel free to edit it. However, do not assume that it is immdeiatly a hoax. For example, there are many different animals in existance that lay eggs edible for human consumption; this statement was simply for clarification. (Charlieandeddie 23:15, 11 July 2006 (UTC))

You should argue this on the AfD page. Also, if you can provide some links or sources supporting the subject's existence and/or popularity, I'd be happy to vouch for you and try to get the deletion discussion closed. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 23:18, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Regarding my "egg comment" -- you're right. I don't know why I thought that sentence was so ridiculous when I saw it; I guess I just wasn't thinking straight. I have noted this as well as the gist of my last comment on the AfD page. Still, Google doesn't give me too many relevant results when I search for "egg snake", and I am still a bit skeptical about this being a popular form of food rather than a very localized tradition. If we can get past that question, I will consider your article solid. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 23:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

RE: Egg Snake

The tradition of the Egg snake has been enjoyed and continued on many establishments on the west coast, including, but not limited to, the South Western Coast of British Columbia. The page Egg Snake is an over-due attempt to bring light to this lesser-known West Coast marine history. Many coastal American establishments from Northern California and Oregon, including my own, still serve the traditional Egg Snake on the menu. The area's thriving most from Egg Snake popularity again seem to be located on the South Western Coast of British Columbia.

The Egg Snake is very much so a real and current standing piece of West Coast heritage. Although not well known, it is my intent through this page to educate marine history enthusiasts to some of the finer points of history on the West Coast. Noting that it is in-fact a relatively unknown piece of history, I failed to realize that Google is a reliable generator of credible sources and in the duty of determining fact from fiction. If this were the case, my very own restaurant from which I work daily (which has Egg Snake on the menu), would not exist according to Google.

My Goal is simple: To educate marine history enthusiasts to some of the finer points of history on the West Coast. I wish to know what verification is needed in order for the page Egg Snake to stand. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Charlieandeddie (talkcontribs) 02:55, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I see that you have crossposted this from the AfD page. Honestly, I wouldn't worry too much, as no one is opposing keeping your article (including myself at this point). I'm not totally sure of the notability of the subject, but I don't mind if it stays if no one else does. I hope I haven't discouraged you from editing -- I've just been trying to "tidy the house" a bit; I hope you can understand. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:55, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
No problem mate, thats your job. thank you for your interest in the pacific tradition of the egg snake, and hope you yourself get the oppritunity to enjoy an authentic plate in the future. (Charlieandeddie 06:17, 13 July 2006 (UTC))

The precise definition of race is under dispute..

I wrote this to help spread understanding, please make sure to read the definitions of outcrossing on the link.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 11:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:No original research. Q.E.D. Daniel.Bryant (aka Killfest2) 11:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Please stop harassing me with your nonsense. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 14:35, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


This user has started vandalising again, Konman72 07:55, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


Thanks. I couldn't figure out how to do it.You're quick! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Esmelk (talkcontribs) 17:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

The Opposition - relevant

they must be on some importance seeing they are an English band with a Netherlands website who features the information in French:

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by DJ HEAVEN (talkcontribs) 15:02, 14 July 2006.

I don't speak French, and I have not attempted to translate any of this (which, using a tool like Babelfish, would probably not be very enlightening anyway), but a post from their website isn't the best resource to prove notability. I see a few words such as "Manhattan/EMI" and "MTV", but my ignorant eyes still cannot determine their fame from that. And anyway, it's just a {{notability}} tag. You can argue notability on the band's talk page and then remove the tag, if you so desire. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 15:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


my friend gaz keeps writin stuff abt me —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jjcooper (talkcontribs) 16:56, 14 July 2006.


Geez man, wait a second before you seek to delete a new page the page was only created 4 minutes before you asked to eradicate it! I couldn't create the disambig. page and the surname page at the same time! Anyway, the surname page DOES exist now, and, as such, I've removed your consideration for deletion. Kind regards ... CPAScott 16:58, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Australian Derby (harness)

Hey man, this page isn't associated with the AJC derby is that is a thoroughbred race. I would appreciate it if you removed the speedy deletion. Cheers--Kearney6 17:02, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough. It was hard for me to tell from that description. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 17:03, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

List of biggest selling female rap albums

Waht? What was the point of putting that template on that page, because it is true, I worked really hard on the page. Thanks 19:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC) (talkcontribs)

Please, provide sources. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk)

yes me tooo —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hellur (talkcontribs) 19:21, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

why do i keep on getting deleted?

im a well known model/artist in my town and i think i shouldnt get deleted my page is perfectly fine —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hellur (talkcontribs) 19:19, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

well you said im deleted cause of blant vanity?? whats that about? and i dont see the harm in my page it just tellss about me my myspace account isnt delted and i have no copy written stuff if any things wrong why dont you change it im only new to this —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hellur (talkcontribs) 19:36, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for reporting the vandal who was making personal attacks on my talk page :). Fabricationary 06:32, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

No prob, sorry about all the false alarms with my three badly-timed/ill-conceived edits to your talk page. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 06:33, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


Dear feminist, you are using the system to impose censorship, I find that to be offensive as a citizen, give a search in about antifeminist and you will notice that the entire web is censored, this being because the females have taken over. Well no more. Long Live the Antifeminist Movement! We are here, real and to stay, and we will post every 2 minutes until you stop censorship on our freedom of speach. Have a good day, dear feminist censor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 07:30, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Keep spamming your website and you'll see how long you're here to stay. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 07:32, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

RE: User talk:

He most certainly is not me and is vandalising my page twice now. - Mike Beckham 15:20, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Indigenous peoples of the Americas

Why did you remove those articles that I had commended to merge? 16:47, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I removed the article name you struck out and your signature, the former because it looks bad and the second because it doesn't belong on an article. I didn't actually remove anything you wanted to be seen, did I? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 16:50, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes you did, unfortunatly for you. {{merge-to}} is different from {{merge-multiple}}; the First Nations blue link actually didn't show up. 17:08, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, yeah, that last title slipped by me. Honest mistake, which I'd fix, but you already seem to have.
Let's please avoid the strikeouts and signing on the article pages, though, okay? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 17:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Sure, but I just did it to inform...... 17:38, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Master craftsman

Why did you remove my tag!? People do NOT appreciate what you do, you can get on people's nerves! 17:12, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

First, it wasn't even a tag, it was "{delete}" and you didn't provide a reason. Second, what argument could you possibly have for speedy deleting master craftsman? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 17:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Update: Okay, you did fix the tag in the second edit, but because of your positioning, it didn't show there, either. My reversion didn't even affect what was displayed on the page, and you'd have to go back and fix it anyway.
Just a word of advice: There's no way that article is going to be deleted for "sexism". -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 17:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
The article has blatant sexism; we can all see that, hence blatant. Because you can't change the article title, you have to delete the page and start a new one; I hope you see my logic.......:-S-_- 17:46, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
What blatant sexism? It only has three "hes". If you don't like it, you could change it to "he or she", which would probably be anachronistic, as historically, men were craftsmen (this being intended only as a statement of fact from my admittedly small world view). This may have a little bearing on why I reverted your speedy deletion tag, but the main reason was just that it was added with a couple small errors that caused it not to display. In truth, the reason I did not simply fix the tag for you is because you initially gave no reason, and I could not see (and still do not see) a reason for it.
I do believe you are editing in good faith, though. Why not register an account? If you do that, and read up on speedy deletions a bit, I will try my hardest to not make tagging mistakes again. Deal? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 17:52, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry I'm too confused by ' added with a couple small errors that caused it not to display...'???:-S Huh, what do you mean? 18:00, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
The first error being two brackets instead of four ({delete} instead of {{delete}}), and the second being ... wait, now your second tag does show right for me. God, I hate browser caches sometimes. So yeah, I screwed up there, and will increment my error count appropriately. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:07, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
At any rate, here are the criteria for speedy deletion, for your reference. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:14, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I would've gladly made those changes; in all honesty, I think I made the same edits before, but somehow they were reverted, or someone changed them, god knows how. But because of the fact the title is sexist, & because the only way to solve that problem is to delete article, I didn't bother, so now you know why I tried this new [for me] approach. 18:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Regarding ==Welcome!==

Thank you for the message, I actually really apprciate it; I've considered getting an account, & said the next edit I'd make, I'd make with an account:-S You are truly inspiring. How come you sent that message to me anyways, though? Can I login now? Cause my IP address is a bluelink now. 17:50, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

It's a blue link because I accidentally put a {{welcome}} template on your user page at first (sorry; scroll through my talk pages and you will see I am not at all infallible). I sent you that message because I think you really are trying to making good edits, but you just need a quick read-over of some of the rules. I am just referring to not signing articles and making sure you have good reasons for speedy deletion. God knows I've made my share of mistakes, and please, if I do something like what I did with the improper {{merge-to}} tag, go ahead and fix it. I really meant no harm. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 17:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Regarding your question which I didn't fully answer: you can sign up here; you can't really "log in" with just an IP address. Oh, and to clarify, don't give me too much credit with that welcome message. It was pre-made ({{subst:anon}}). -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 17:58, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Well well...

Good patrols to you too, man. ;) Kedi the tramp (talkcontribscount) (Respond to me on my Talk.) 20:39, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Still having fun? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 20:40, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I've seen some top-quality spam today, so yeah. ;) Doing good, you? Kedi the tramp (talkcontribscount) (Respond to me on my Talk.) 20:54, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm actually on a fast machine for once and thus can use VandalProof semi-effectively, so yeah, it's working out pretty well. I'm not making everyone happy, though, obviously (see: almost every post on my talk page). -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 20:56, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
My wireless doesn't work, I'm stuck on a laptop with of antique value, and a 56k connection. Best I have is VandalFighter. =/ I don't either, I just remove those "Man **** you, you can't edit my pages, *******!" kind of stuff from obvious vandals. Still, their work continues to amuse me. :) Kedi the tramp (talkcontribscount) (Respond to me on my Talk.) 21:11, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
You are "fighting the good fight". And I feel for you with the wireless thing -- I use Linux, where every part of getting wireless working can be exhausting (or at least for me). -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 21:15, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Speaking of Linux, have you considered using Vandal Sniper? I'll test it on my Linux machine next week, looks good to me. Kedi the tramp (talkcontribscount) (Respond to me on my Talk.) 21:24, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Wow. Never heard of it, but I will definitely be installing it, thank you. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 21:25, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Theresa knott

Thanks for the welcome message that you put on my talk page but i'be been here for years. Still it was nice. Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 20:41, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I knew you'd been here a while, the welcome notice was an accidental VandalProof click. I was trying to revert the vandalism to your page (notice my facetious "I'm a genius" edit comment when I finally did). -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 20:42, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
LOL I figured out what you did, thought "Hey I'm a genius too" and came here to tell you to ignore my previos comment - but you are too quick for me! Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 20:45, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


feel free to follow me. 21:41, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

If you need help, let me know (and please don't think I'm trying to nose around your business, I'm just on recent changes patrol, so I have my annoying hand in everything sooner or later). -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 21:46, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


I'm not a vandal - it's just your imagination. 22:43, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, okay, thanks for setting me straight. Hey, great image you put on my user page, by the way. Thanks, Internet guy. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 22:44, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

A star for your barn

Barnstar of Reversion2.png The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Awarded for insane amounts of vandalism control around here, including reverts to my user page. Thanks! - Tapir Terrific 23:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, you're getting a lot of personal attacks. You can't be that bad at vandal fighting. -- Steel 23:19, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
That really made me chuckle -- thank you. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 23:20, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and thanks for reverting my user page, now that I noticed. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 23:43, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Edit Comments

Oddly enough, lack of edit comments never justify reverting an edit. Noah Webster, didn't die on April 15th - and the anonymous user who removed a reference to the 15th was correct in doing so. Either assume good faith, or do a bit of your own checking. Please set the example for the new kids. Rklawton 23:20, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I disagree with the first statement (unless there's an official rule I missed), but concede that I reverted that naively. However, I can't always do the research to ascertain whether edits are correct or not, and I feel, perhaps wrongly, that removing information requires more justification than adding it. Either way, I'll try to only revert bigger blankings. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 23:24, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
"Assume good faith" is an official rule as far as I know. Rklawton 23:50, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Jan Terri

Sorry for reverting you, I was a bit slow in deciding what the heck to do- very strange article over there, and not every day that you see such a long line of useless edits. Glad to see that you had reached the same conclusion that i did, either way! -Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 00:51, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem, I didn't realize you'd done it. I was at a loss myself, and if you feel I didn't revert far back enough/reverted too far/should just have deleted some parts, please feel free to make those edits or let me know how I can help. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 00:52, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Just wanted to let you know that User: reverted our changes to Jan Terri, calling it vandalism. I reverted it again, and left a message on their talk page as well as the article talk page. Since it is an anon user I dont suspect much will come of it, but since you were involved I thought it best to keep you aware. Cheers! -Lanoitarus (talk) .:. 07:39, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


That 4.xxxxxx ip guy ACTUALLY warned me. XD Kedi the tramp (talkcontribscount) (Respond to me on my Talk.) 00:52, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm in the process of checking his contributions to the last sock puppet I reported to AIV. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 00:53, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

In Regards To Anson Chan

Omicronpersei8, I come to you with a desperate plead for help.

Recently, a user called WangFeiHung has repeatedly added communist, POV comments on the Anson Chan pages, alleging that she, along with the British Administration of Hong Kong at the time, brutalizing Hong Kong people. When me and another user reverted the edits in accordance with the NPOV practices, he called me and the supporters of my actions "Nazis". I am extremely offended by these comments. As a person who lived in Hong Kong, and a person whose parents lived with the horrors of the leftist riots in Hong Kong during the 1960's, I am deeply offended by the action of WangFeiHung.

As far as I know, Wikipedia has not turned into Maoistpedia, so why are we tolerating these extremely POV comments? WangFeiHung's foisting of an extremist political agenda is counterproductive for Wikipedia and will ultimately harm Wikipedia's reputation permanently. As a loyal Wikipedian, I cannot even imagine the consequences. Wikipedia was established with a mission to "create and distribute a multilingual free encyclopedia of the highest possible quality". If we are to build Wikipedia into a respectable institution and allow it to serve its mission, we must prevent extremist edits, such as the ones made by WangFeiHung, from seeing the day of light.

Omicronpersei8, I hope you can help me defend Wikipedia's reputation and its mission by speaking with an admin, with the ultimate goal of banning WangFeiHung from editing for a certain period of time. Wikipedia is an institution, and it has great potentials. The potentials and aims of this institution is too great to be harmed by extremists. I beg of you to please help me in the defence of Wikipedia and the Wikipedian Aims. Thank you.

With Regards

--Arbiteroftruth 05:39, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


I WROTE GOOD COMMENTS!!! PMG LIEK WTF ETS LIEK PMG!!!1 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 03:54, 17 July 2006 (UTC) -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:55, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


YOU OLD PILE OF !@#$ING @^$&. I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL FOR TAKING MY &%^@ING THING OFF YOU &$#GOT!!! PMG NOOB! BLACK RETARD, GOT N0 LIFE!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 04:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your attempts to improve Wikipedia. However, I would like to remind you that Wikipedia is not censored for minors, not even for profanity or pornography. You are welcome to remove clearly offensive material or inappropriate obscenities, but please do not remove/censor profanities or remove/disclaim sexually explicit material or links that are relevant to the article. In the meantime, please be bold and continue contributing to Wikipedia. Thank you! -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:04, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I am sorry, matey.

I am sorry for being such a mother ----er. Just like you are every milisecond. I bet you do your own grandmother. I hope you burn in hell. Got no life. By the way, I CAN HACK. I CAN AND WILL HACK YOUR COMPUTER/S IF YOU REMOVE THIS MESSAGE, THAT GOES FOR THE REST OF YOU TOO. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 04:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey now...

John Kronic does, in fact, live in Yonkers, and does get repeatedly pwn3d by IW. Why do you insist that he doesn't? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 04:35, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Vlog edit

The concept of this wiki is to represent the accomplishments of videoblogging as a group. This wiki page should not be used a self promotion vehicle, if you feel the need to self promote please create your own page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Omnistar (talkcontribs) 19:47, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, what? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 19:49, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey Omicronpersei8

I signed up, but they blocked my ID: 100110100.

I have no idea what to do; do they need a reason for my choosing this? Its my alias, but if they want a more specific reason, I could mention it, but because its my intellectual property, I'd rather not. Sorry for putting this up here, I'm not very sure where to turn to.

Thanks. 05:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Most likely, it was blocked because it is too ambiguous. It would be hard to refer to you with that name, and completely numerical names are probably looked down upon as well. Maybe you could pick another pseudonym you use online, if you have one. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 06:45, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
No I don't. I don't think I'd be hard to refer to me by that name is that policy? It had better be changed, if it is, I should file a compliant eh? 21:19, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


Your application has been approved. Glad to see you got it working, and happy hunting!

I'm always open to suggestions, so if you have a feature request or bug report, the VS talk page is always open. --Chris (talk) 08:58, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


Many thanks for Rv the vadalism - I have put many hours into that page

Kerripaul 21:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


i hate you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 22:33, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I know your secret

I've heard numerous rumors that you're a sex offender and a pedophile. Do a google search for your username and you'll see what I mean. QUIT STALKING LITTLE KIDS! ----- 22:43, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for signing, at least. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 22:44, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your help reverting vandalism on Joe Francis. That user (and a few of his IPs I'm guessing) have been busy for a while and it's good to know I'm not alone (just look at the history! [3]) - Ouzo 23:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

about RSF7589

sorry bout that i didnt notice i was signed out thats actually my user name when im signed in 23:10, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I suspected as much, but the gap between the last post and the current blanking made me wonder. I'll revert it back. Happy editing -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 23:11, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

You beat me

Argh, you beat me so many times when I patrol the RC. Good job by the way. -ScotchMB 23:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I know how that feels, believe me. Thank you, and good job to you as well. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 23:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Pakistan Supreme Court

I would hope that you would not take out the Law of necessity from the Supreme court of Pakistan as it is factual and should be part of the history of this court.


Your edits to that article were quite biased. I hope you will reconsider them, as they violate Wikipedia's neutral point-of-view policies. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Because of people like you, the good name of Joseph McCarthy has been smeared. It is shameful for a bi partisan encyclopedia to be run by partisan revisionists. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 04:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Please try to listen this time. Your edits were reverted and you were warned not because of your opinions or preferences toward the content of the article, but because you kept placing diatribes about the article's inaccuracy into the middle of the encyclopedic content, even after I put up a {{disputed}} tag for you. If anything, you should accuse yourself of partisanship, and if you keep on as you're doing, you will soon be blocked from editing. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:02, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


I wanna know why you keep sending me insulting messages. I want an answer immedietly.--Qasqass 04:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't get the joke. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Yatsushiro page

Your deletions to the pranks done on the Yatsushiro page were welcome, however, you also deleted a number of concrete facts in the process, such as the unmarked graves of various Christian martyrs. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 6:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

You're right about that, sorry. I don't really see any other factoids that weren't left in, though, and I'm adding the one you spoke of back in. The rest of the facts seem to be pretty much intact.
I hope you can understand, this took a while for me to figure what to do. In the end, reverting to the point that I did seemed like the smallest headache. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 06:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh, also, stop vandalism please thanks. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 07:07, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Thank you for your attempts to improve Wikipedia. However, what you removed from the Carl Monday article is completely factual. Carl Monday is watching Ytny masturbate, and he could be watching you masturbate. I believe that Ytny will corroborate this fact, because he knows the truth about Carl Monday. In the future, please try to have some knowledge of what you are doing before you remove important information from pages. Thanks! -- 11:16, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Great job!

Nice job on reverting tons of vandalism - you've always seemed to be one step ahead of me today. east.718 18:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, and good job to you as well. Happy editing. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry if Hitler offends you

It's not my fault Hitler offends you, but I have to live with her at school everyday, deal with it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 18:31, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

That's funny

I'm not going to take advice from someone who has fucked up 8 times. Leave me alone, my edits are useful, that was a true change. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 19:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Your editing my stuff is a personal attack on me —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 19:15, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Please note:
* If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 19:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey idiot, no one cares what you think, stfu k-thx —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 02:09, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

And please, let me know. Who are you to have a say that I should be blocked? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 19:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


i am racoon - the invincible ! ! ! -- 20:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


I am a Genuine Seeker of spirituality and Reiki. I have learned many methods of healing and have also found that the US people have gracefully commercialised the divine things like Reiki. If you are not aware, I request you to look for the internet healing links and addresses as well as training costs of different teachers openly mentioned in many parts of articles. Yet My learned editor has not felt that it is promotional or commercial. May I know why? I will appreciate if you take trouble to let me know how to add real ang genuine information to enrich your site. In fact My Teacher has huge valuable information for many sections of healing related sites. You may please mail me on I am fed up of loading the matter again and again and finding that it is simply being deleted for no reason!

Please see Below: —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 20:27, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

What is improper in this matter?

Why is this genuine information deleted again and again?

Who is doing this and why? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 20:32, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Are you a fool??? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 20:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

First you deleted basically the all the previous content in the article, and then you made claims about healing, slipping in an advertisement for "Dr. Mikao Usui". It's obvious what you're up to -- please stop advertising. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 20:39, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


vandal my dick bitch —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 21:28, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

can you block my dick from going into your wife? Vandal. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 21:31, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

you cant block me bitch, if you do, i will find you, hunt you down, and have sex with your wife —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 21:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Blocked. OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. Hey, I never did thank you for my CVU userbox and greeting, both of which I appreciate a lot. The userbox is still up there. Have a good one -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 21:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
You're welcome. You certainly deserve the CVU box; you're one of the most prolific RC patrollers out there! Once you hit the six month mark or so, I think you'd make a good candidate for adminship. OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:48, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, I appreciate that. Maybe I'll even squeeze in my first real edit in the next four months! -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 21:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Yes, I noticed you changed it. And I decided to use GHz just for the sake of consistency. Less confusing that way. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 22:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Yeah, i DO think you shudn't have reverted MY OWN f'in userpage. first of all, it is MINE, 2nd it was a JOKE (what crawled up your rear, take a joke man), and 3rd, as you stated, it does not change it in the history, therefore no matter what i change it to, it will always remain the way it was, and the warning that was sent will still have been sent. Its also amazing how in 10 seconds flat you erased my comment and started acting like my online father. Once again, it was a joke, and i think you should change it back, and relax cus in no way did it hurt anyone or the "encyclopedia", and since the page is MY user talk, it didnt hurt me either. THANKS 22:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Omi, I didn't ask for your opinion--keep off my page unless you want me top cr@p on yours. 22:51, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not censored. And you will have an administrator's opinion soon if you continue your constant trolling. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 22:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Omi, you're not the law on Wikipedia. Mind your own business. Try finding somewhere useful to troll. From your page, it appears that others equally despise you. 22:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
It's now apparent you don't know the definition of trolling, because you exemplify it. Add something useful, or go take a walk and get some sunshine. Otherwise, an administrative referral is in your future for your numerous bad faith edits. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 22:55, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
ooooohhhhhhh nooooooooo, I'm scared!!!!!! :'-( You're the troll. 22:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Dude, get a girlfriend, or something. Just get a bloody life. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 02:17, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

High five! Nice one. -Some random IP address that Will probably get blocked again soon and have to move to another computer. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 18:28, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

You vandals put almost as much thought into your talk page snipes as you do into your article blankings. Mama would be proud! -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure yo momma is proud that you spend all day on the computer deleting crap from an online encyclopedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 18:32, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Blasphemous article

From User talk: "Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to Dinosaur, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. If you feel that the edit I reverted should not have been reverted, please contact me. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 02:10, 20 July 2006 (UTC)"

Yes I feel that my reverts should of not been reverted. The Dinosaur article is nothing but false lies to defame God and contradict THE BIBLE. Do you know what contradict means? Can you look it up? Can you not see that you and all the reverting fools will go to Hell just for printing nonsense lies against the True Creation to mock God Himself? Who do you think God favours little man? Me ---an instrument of His Truth--- or people like you censoring the Truth by reverting to this fictional nonsense about "dinosaurs". The world is not even that old. Fairytales about giant monsters and you sinful Godless idiots believe it all like brainless cows! WAKE UP. You will literally] go to Hell if you continue a hopeless struggle against the Light. We will be a Christian Republic and then you vile Satanic creatures will know what it means to fight for the side of Evil. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 02:28, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

If you continue to blank the article, you will be blocked from editing. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 02:29, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Can't you read a word I write!!!??! You didn't answer a single point! You can't because you know this rubbish about dinosaurs is all lies! But you won't take action because your a spineless cowardly little worm who would rather serve the Devil. How do you "people" look yourselves in the mirror? This is why America is a swamp of filth and immorality, people like you and all the cowards who won't stand up to the Devil. But I will. I will buy a hundred computers and get a hundred different connections to the internet if I have to. I will win this war against the false dinosaur article if it takes ten years of non-stop work and then I will move onto other disgusting and blasphemous deceitful pages on this so called wikipedia. Yes you can block my IP but you will ultimately go to Hell where you will writhe in total agony forever. Maggots and worms will devour you endlessly as fires hotter than blowtorches sear into the flesh of your immortal soul for all eternity. Even your eyes will be scorched out, you pathetic sinful filth. You make me sick. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 02:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Omicronpersei8/Archive 3
Can't you read a word I write!!!??! You didn't answer a single point! You can't because you know its all lies!
User talk:Omicronpersei8/Archive 3
Exactly his point... Killfest2 (Critique my new user page design please) 02:41, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Don't take this the wrong way, but have you had a nap lately? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 02:42, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't misquote me or mock me. It will be you burning and screaming forever, not me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 02:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

So be it, but you're the one who's going to be blocked. Killfest2 (Critique my new user page design please) 02:46, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

All I'm saying is, chill out, grab a glass of water, watch a little TV, maybe catch a few winks... I'm telling you, it does wonders! -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 02:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

am I still blocked!? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 03:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

No, it was only a thirty minute block. Have you calmed down now? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

You fail 03:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Calmed down? Like I was trying to say, I'm communicating (or trying to communicate) with smug smirking morons who don't even CARE if they putrify and immolate in Hell forever. This is what we are dealing with today. Half of the country is like you. You people are the reason America needs a theocracy. Do you know what that word means, little person? Look it up. Do you know what happens to smug little blasphemers like you in Iran? Hmm? You would not be so "clever" hung from your kneck for the crows to feed on. Not so clever when you realize the eternity before you, rotting and burning forever, with NO hope of escape.. Oh ha ha, tee-hee, oh clever we were. Will you be saying that when you are implaled through the rectum in Satan's pit, while carnivorous worms chew out your eyeballs? I wonder. Bush is a good man, the best thing that ever happened to this country, and he will see that people like you come to the right end. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 03:55, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

So you're not going to take that nap? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I say these things only because I love you. Our Lord, Jesus Christ, taught us to love everybody.. I don't want those things to happen to you. Can't you see I'm trying to warn you? Are you really that stupid and blinkered. Please stop doing this. Please revert the dinosaur article to my revert. I am not tired. I do not need any sleep. Please. Friend. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 04:05, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Hahaha! You are quite the mercurial proselytizer. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:06, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Why must you endlessly taunt and mock my conviction in the Truth? Can't you see the rewards God would give you in the next life? Hell averted, heaven granted. Accept the light instead of constantly ridiculing the truth. Nobody was born evil. There is a good person in you somewhere who can follow the Truth. If not for me, think of your own eternity. Heavenly bliss will be yours if you become as much an instrument of God as I am. Wouldn't it be good to surrender yourself completely, to a Higher Purpose? Imagine if your life had real meaning and conviction. Please, friend. Stop mocking me. Do this, and help to save many souls from these corrupt lies. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 04:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I do not believe God's 1 true purpose is dinosaurs or the lack thereof. 04:12, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
fool, I never said it was. I am doing my own bit in my own way. End this ridicule. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 04:15, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Okay, thanks, that's enough reason for me to report. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:18, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Your sermons are falling on deaf ears. Go away. Stop harassing me. If you destroy an article again, I will report you. If you make any more personal attacks, I will report you. I am not interested in a debate or in helping you with anything. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:16, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

And now he is extinct, much like the dinosaurs. Irony! 04:30, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

This is one reason I wouldn't want policy to prevent anonymous editors: they provide so much entertainment! Of course it's easy for me to laugh, I didn't have an incoherent and insulting rant posted on my page. If I'm ever going to attract any really interresting trolls I guess I'll have to get more involved in RC and Vandal Patrol. In the meantime, would someone add a link to the article in question, so I can watch the fun in person? --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 05:04, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
PS - Omi, I left a reply about WSN on my Talkpage for you. You do great work :) --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 05:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Absolutely! (vandal contribs)
And yeah, I saw it. Thanks for the kind words -- just didn't want to bug you with too many talk popups. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 05:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, and Wow! What a great article; I've got it Watchlisted now, and I'll be watching it too. crossposted from my page, plus: I enjoy getting messages because most of the ones I get are rational and largely positive. I can understand you might not be having that same reaction though, it seems like all kinds of intellectual riff-raff post here :) --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 05:24, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I think my policy of keeping most of the comments I get intact could be construed as "feeding the trolls" (in reality, it's just my obsessiveness). It does make for an entertaining read in the end, though, I guess. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 05:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I hope Satan rips yout your lungs, shits in them, and makes you eat them while you suffocate in Hell you bottom-feeding Godless puddle of vomit. You probably eat your own excrement anyway, you diseased God-hating pervert. Think well on your fate. Universal eternal justice awaits you and everybody like you. God will win. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 14:07, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


You are like a man who has a very large amount of cheese in the plastic wrapper.

There is much anger on this page. It makes me giggle. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 03:30, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, after all, I've gotta stack cheese; I've gotta stack cheese, I need at least two G's. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I do not have a special name. 03:33, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

It's who you are on the inside that matters. Or the outside. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:34, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Edit on Talk page


Just noticed this edit. The better way would have been to blank the whole talk page vandalism. I wonder if you should count it in your "Screw ups" though. Anyway, thanks for removing the offensive image. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 16:19, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I actually left that message there so the vandal would be held accountable, but deliberately removed the image link. I think blanking the talk page would be counterproductive in the end as far as stopping vandalism goes, and I also didn't feel qualified to just delete all the text on your talk page. At any rate, since it's what you prefer, if I see vandalism to your talk again, I'll just remove it. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 16:24, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

why must you do that

let me have my page back and let me make it more wiki. --Wizzler2 18:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

No one "took the page away", and it's not "your" page. It was riddled with non-notable bios and advertising language, so I tried my best to neutralize it. You are more than welcome to continue adding to it, but please, please do not try to steer the article back in the vanity direction. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:06, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

serious? vanity? are you kidding me? why are facts vanity? why is the list of editors vanity? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wizzler2 (talkcontribs) 18:36, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Why can't facts be vanity? A list of editors is not necessarily vanity (but is pushing it); what you had were extended bios about everyone related to the site, a complete history of the comings and goings of editors, and several non-neutral statements. Please read WP:NPOV and WP:N before adding those sections back again. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

why do you get to decided the notability of people?

just a thought, over 30,000 people know me

over 30,000 people hate you, does it mean anything, probably. --Wizzler2 02:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I believe you, because I had to remove over 30,000 Internet nicknames from that page.
I shouldn't have to explain to you why people whose only claims to fame are being a part of that site should not have half-page biographies, and I especially shouldn't have to explain why it's not okay to make endless lists of Internet nicknames for people who can post on a message board. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 02:57, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

so instead of anwering anything you just delete it.

if i made a time magazine page could i list the editors of it, or would that be vanity?--Wizzler2 02:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

What am I supposed to be answering? The people on the list are very clearly not notable. They would not have articles of their own on Wikipedia.
Please don't try to compare the editors of that website to Time Magazine editors. That's another fallacy I shouldn't have to explain. And I never removed the list of editors, only their "biographies", so I don't know what you're complaining about. I could have just put the article up for deletion, but decided to make several edits to it so it might not be tagged thusly. I am now starting to regret that gesture. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

so no reply???--Wizzler2 03:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

No reply to what? The Time Magazine question? The answer is no -- that's not vanity, because a Time Magazine editor is notable. They have at least national recognition. They would have their own Wikipedia pages. The editors of that site probably don't. Listing them would be borderline vanity, but I won't argue it. However, they don't deserve lengthy biographies, in that article or in one devoted just to their names, until their notability is established. No one knows who a bunch of random fake names made up for message board use are, and they add absolutely nothing to the article, so they shouldn't be in either.
Let me explain something else to you: If I hadn't neutered your article of advertisements and vanity text, either someone else would have or would have requested the page to be deleted. If you could just be bothered to read the rules of Wikipedia, starting with WP:5P, for example, you would understand that it's not just me trying to be a jerk, it's policy. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:14, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

mark up 9-1038 times you were wrong.

i would wait for your reply, but i have things to do, its called having a life try it.--Wizzler2 03:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Is that the reason you can't read the rules? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:14, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Here's my input. If I were to read an article about a sports network website, I wouldn't want to read a list of tons of nicknames of people who posted a lot on it. I'd skip over it immediately. Info like that should be put on the talk page for it, it's not actually that important. I'd rather have an article up about my site rather than have it deleted due to too much useless info. He's doing you a favor whether you realize it or not. -- MaxDuo 03:31, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
I tried to get the ball rolling (or bouncing as the case may be) on Talk:Wisconsin Sports Network. Good luck and happy editing :) --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 04:14, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, that sounds like a good idea. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


get a life —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 18:52, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

sorry —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 19:00, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


I really like the vandalism counter you have on your page, and like you I surf the RC wasting away reverting vandalism and other nonsense, I was wondering if I could have your approval to use that code-ing for your "mistaken reverts". If not, no problem, just thought I would ask! --Sopranosmob781 18:54, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Sure, no problem, have at it. I don't know if you use VandalProof, but it has an error counter built-in that can post to your talk page, and I believe it gives extended statistics as well. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:56, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
And change the text in your copy of my "error box" all you want; I like to use strongly self-critical language sometimes. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:58, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Omni. I'll see you floating around the R.C!

--Sopranosmob781 19:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Adam Kaufman

sorry, i didn't know what to do when i went here:
can you fix it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 23:46, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

You just got redirected to another page that contains all the minor characters in 24. Adam Kaufman is listed on that page; is this the link you wanted? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 00:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Archive necromancy

These are continuations of old posts I missed because they were made in my talk archives after they were filed away. Please leave comments for me on this page, not in the archives, even if part of the previous conversation has been moved off of the main talk page. Thank you. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 06:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Master craftsman

Hey, sorry forgot to mention, yea your right, I thought about the fact that in the past there WERE only craftsMEN. But then, I thought, that's probably not true, but please, correct me if I'm wrong. 04:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'm sure men weren't the only craftsmen, but were probably the main ones. This, of course, depends on things like the definition of "craftsman" or even "craft". I am not knowledgeable enough to speculate any further, but at any rate, I really don't think that article is guilty of sexist language just because it uses a term ending in "-man". -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 06:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

The Opposition - relevant

However looking at the notibilty article it seem that this band (as The Opposition and as So) tick more of the boxes than some other of the band's profile i have been on. For instance the Courduroy entry was very brief (i updated it to mention Boys Wonder) and I wondered why this too was not bless with the nob box?DJ HEAVEN 11:41, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

FYI Courduroy - their entry was: Corduroy (band)

Corduroy were a 4-piece acid jazz outfit based in London, Corduroy released three eclectic albums on Acid Jazz Records and then moved over to Big Cat Records. Several singles from their 1993 album High Havok charted in the U.K. Top Ten. (they'ver never had a top ten hit in the main chart)DJ HEAVEN 12:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar

WikiDefender Barnstar.png The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
I award you this wiki-armor because you clearly need it, having "taken one for the team", again, and again...and nauseum

Just try to keep smiling : ) Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 06:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

You've earned this; seperating the wheat from the chaff is not a thankful job. So...Thanks! --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 06:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Awesome! I haven't seen this one before. Thanks for all the kind gestures. It helps with the motivation thing. I owe you at least a user page vandalism revert or two (not that anyone would dare sully it, I would think). -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 06:18, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm even going to shamelessly put this on my user page. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 06:27, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
LOL, no vandalism yet, but I have a habit of late-night sarcasm (see "intellectual riff-raff", above), so it's probably inevitable. I'm just hoping for something interesting :) --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 06:30, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar

Barnstar of Reversion2.png The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
I award you this barnstar for your tireless efforts against vandalism. JFace-grin.svgrcoga! 07:13, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Thats OK. You deserve it. JFace-grin.svgrcoga! 07:17, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


YOU YUPPOIE —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 06:44, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Am I doing this right?

I see absolutely NOTHING wrong with my excerpt of Canada. This is all factual information, besides the little joke about the wall at the end. Regardless, this little bit gives very crucial information needed to non-Canadians seeking answers about Canada and it's inhabitants.

With Love, Scott —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 07:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

another error

you need a life —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 18:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

sorry —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 19:00, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Edit Warning Problems

I have received several messages warning me about Edits that I made to Playstation 3 pages. I actually made one of the edits to the List of Playstation 3 games page in a sarcastic way to send a message to the person who originally created the list, because the list has a ton of flaws! Here are some examples:

Conclusion: Please remove the warnings I have against me that would potentially prevent me from editing this nice website. I also request that you remove the "untitled" and "unspecified" games from the List of Playstation 3 games page. In order for a game to be mentioned in a list, it should at least have an official working title. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mike mgoblue (talkcontribs) 21:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

That's no excuse for flooding the page with useless data, which you have just confirmed to be vandalism. If this is who I think it is, and I don't have the prior IP still on record, then I want to point out that there's a difference between some ill-conceived "untitleds" in a list and deliberately making the page unreadable, "to prove a point" or otherwise. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 21:13, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
This editor account is obviously the sockpuppet of another account/registered user of a vandalising IP, as per his/her contributions (none excl. this page), and how they are defending actions in the style of writing which indicates they made the original edit. Killfest2 (Talk) 02:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Good job

Hi Omnicronpersei8. I've seen your name popping up a lot recently, on WP:AIV and on general RC patrol. Just wanted to say: keep up the good work. Your efforts are helping improve Wikipedia and they are greatly appreciated. Best, Gwernol 21:21, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, that means a lot. Keep up the good work yourself. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 21:21, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


Is there a way to change an IP to your name and have it under your contributions? I edited something in a car article earlier and wikipedia decided to log me out somewhere in there so now the credit is under my IP instead... Annoys me. MaxDuo (talk) 23:18, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

And what the heck is going on with my signature? I've put in the same thing as you. MaxDuo (talk) 23:19, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Make sure you click the "Raw Signature" box underneath where you put in your signature on your preferences page. See WP:SIG for more help. Killfest2 (Talk) 02:10, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don't think there's a way to do that. I've done logged-out edits before accidentally as well, but it doesn't really matter for me since I hardly ever add content.
Killfest2, thanks for the help -- I wouldn't have known what to tell him. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 02:26, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

No problems...I can't remember why I came here in the first place, but I'm glad to help out wherever I can :P Killfest2 (Talk) 02:47, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
You came here because this is the happiest talk page on Wikipedia! -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:07, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Test -- MaxDuo (talk) 04:05, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Jennifer Hawkins

Thank you for your concern, Omicronpersei8- however I can assure that upon browsing said page, I discovered the vulgarities and took it upon myself to delete them. As I am not a registered user of Wikipedia, I can only assume that the computer gave me the same IP address as the imbecile who put them on in the first place.


Matt. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 03:18, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Whoops! My bad. I don't know why I warned you. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:21, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Howards' Way

Not vandalising, removing content that doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Back off. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 04:12, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Same user has just done a similar deletion of a large slab of text from Prisoner (TV series). Apparently s/he believes anything he edited is owned by him/her, and having decided to leave wikipedia now believes s/he can delete anything s/he edited. I reverted the Prisoner (TV series) deletion. S/He left me a sarcastic message on that's pages discussion page too. Asa01 04:20, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
I have reported this user to WP:AIV. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:21, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi there!

You're quite fast, mate! It seems that we often do RC patrolling at the same time and you are usually one step ahead of me in reverting test edits and vandalism. I just wanted to drop you a line and let you know that your good works are not going unnoticed! Cheers! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hoopydink (talkcontribs) 04:29, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

And your goodwill is very appreciated. Thanks for the kind sentiment, and keep up the good work yourself. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

A happy barnstar

Working Man's Barnstar.png The Working Man's Barnstar
Awarded because of the number of times I see your name pop up on articles or user pages that I am monitoring, reverting vandalism and warning users. Also, because I get a kick out of your user name every time I see it. Soundbite: "Awarded for tireless work reverting vandalism and for having a great user name." --Yamla 16:44, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Gasp, why did you revert the article in Ben 10 about Gayneright, its not Wayernight, and he wasn't using Grey Matter to give to an Organization, it was stolen after he used it as a dildo to try and get attention. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 18:21, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, Yamla is much worse than you, he or she, I'm not sure, is a total douche. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 18:25, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

You're doing a great job so far of establishing your legitimacy. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:26, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Yup, sure am. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 18:27, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

You know what the fun thing about Wikipedia is? You can act like your a mod, no matter who you are, so if you get your IP blocked, who cares, just go to another computer! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 18:31, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
I hear there are fun things out there for people who have lives and aspirations and things to do, also. I wouldn't know, I'm just saying, I've heard. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:32, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Carlos Mencia

Just thought I'd let you know that Carlos Mencia was born with the name Ned Arnel Mencia. It's on his birth certificate, so that is his birth name. However, after birth his parents thought it would be fitting to use his father's last name, so he was known as Ned Holness.

--Nishkid64 19:14, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I'd never heard that, and I didn't see the edit explained anywhere. Sorry -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 19:15, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


why are you trying to bias the entries on the big brother uk pages?i —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Timdew (talkcontribs) 21:07, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Geeze, you reverted that last bit of vandalism ("fag") before I had time to comment on it. I wanted a chance to let the editor know just how much we appreciate such...valuable... contributions, especially from Anon IPs :) --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 01:35, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Intelligent design vandal

Hi. You might want to keep an eye on User:BG66. Take a look at the history of Intelligent Design: [4]. Note that anon vandal made a POV edit which was followed six minutes later by the very first edit of a new user which concealed the fact that a change had occurred (at least, from the perspective of a "most recent change" diff.

I hate to assume bad faith, but I've seen this sort of thing happen before on Wikipedia too many times. Hopefully BG66 is just a new editor, but my guess is that he is If he reinserts the unattributed "reverse the stifling dominance of the materialist worldview" verbiage, we'll know. Cheers, Kasreyn 23:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

what did i say?

i thought i told you to stay out of my talk box? what dont u understand? idiot —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 01:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I really think you should go and read WP:UP and WP:OWN. Killfest2|Daniel.Bryant (Talk) 06:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

starfox 2

It isnt nonsense. i have the starfox 2 game and some ppl havent gotten the chance to play it since it was unreleased. you dont even know what nonsense means, you just paste that message on anything i edit. what i said had to do with the article so get your head checked. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 05:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for reverting the non-funny and very out of season joke on my Talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 06:33, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem. I keep hoping the vandals will get more clever, but it's all in vain. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 06:34, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

The GW Troubadors Projects

Lonely Hearts, Inkblots do not belong on Wikipedia. They are internal projects of a message board, and is only notable there —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 06:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

You're talking to the guy who just put a {{prod}} on The GW Troubadours. However, you are not allowed to vandalize articles, no matter how much you may disapprove of them. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 07:01, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah well, I mean the projects under it. They should be gone as well —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 07:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Regarding New Super Mario Brothers

You cannot assume I am advertising, for your own information Total Gamer Zone is not my site but a site I frequent quite regularly. They were one of the first review sites to have a New Super Mario Brothers review up and felt it should be added to the list of reviews. Is it not advertising for Gamespot? IGN? Gamepro? etc? To me it sounds like double standards. And on top of that it is a NON profit gaming site unlike the others which I listed that are allowed to remain. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 07:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Access Control List

Why did you revert the removal of the paragraph starting "ACLs are an abstract way to model and thus discuss the protection of resources in general." in Access Control List? (It is explained on the talk page why this paragraph is inaccurate.) DavidHopwood 20:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Because I didn't read the talk page and I didn't see an edit comment. That's fine, I'll put it back in if you want, if you haven't already. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 20:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Also, it was deleted by an IP, which put up a red flag since it didn't have a comment. Thank you for contacting me and setting me straight on the reasoning. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 20:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Ah, OK. I had just forgotten to log in. DavidHopwood 21:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism Accusations

I've gotten a message saying that I vandalized a page about "Jason Lewis". It certainly wasn't me, but I do share an IP address with several other people via wireless. I'm not a big Wikipedia editor and generally only stick to fixing grammatical or spelling errors, so the banning of my IP won't be a big loss. I'd just like to apologize on behalf of my group of users and let you know that I'll attempt to put a stop to it, provided I can find out who's been vandalizing pages.

-Robert Johnson —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 03:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your politeness and understanding. I certainly realize that one bad apple can cast dispersion over a whole group, and that you are not at fault. You really don't need to worry, because simple vandalism usually only carries short ban times, and are usually enacted while the vandalism is in effect, so this probably won't affect you. I also notice that this IP has no contributions other than the vandalism (see your IP's contributions) -- you probably have a dynamic IP, so this makes a "collateral damage" ban less likely.
Please, don't worry about finding out who the vandal was. It's not your job, not your fault, and certainly not a reason for you to apologize. Let the administrators of Wikipedia take care of that person, if they come back. We understand the difference between an IP address and a user, and just because one person on your network decided to be stupid, it doesn't automatically make you a partner in crime.
P.S. Wanna create an account? This would probably avoid this problem altogether. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:47, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Mairehau High School

The stuff I wrote about is 100% accurate and I would like if you put it back on the page.

Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 04:34, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


you reveted my vandalism to Islam. This is a mistake because i was trying to call them dirty arab terrorists —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 05:44, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


blah!!!!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 06:10, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

youre an asshole you know that. you're like hitler only worse. a fat liar and a sadist. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 06:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

YOU'RE THE SPITTING IMAGE OF HITLER. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 06:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


jive turkey!!!!!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 07:03, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


Hi Omicronpersei !

I honestly fell the article like being "unbalanced" and overly commendatory I am telling you this because I am italian and I can really tell you that what is written in there does not reflect the present feelings of Italian people nowadays in my country about the guy.

Why for example the chapter abouth the (many ) international trials involving mr.berlusconi is only included as a link ?

And also please update the picture .. it is very old Berlusconi is 70 y.o that pictures is possibly older of more that two decades ..

The article in my opinion is unbalanced in the present form and try to depict him in a "pink" alla roses way ..unrealistically.

Best greetings :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 07:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi !

I just wrote you a about the berlusconi article.

In my opinion it is unbalanced and some info are also not updated.. to be honest in it present way seems written by the political office of Mr.Berlusconi.

If the goal is to have an encyclopedia style article it should be written in a more balanced way and not in a celebratory way.

Thanks for your kind attention. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 08:16, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Re "alumin(i)um" in Recycling

Hya, apparently either spelling is valid, though I had to look that up as well. With the extra "i" is the British version and as the article uses British English, that's what we've been trying to stick to, despite frequent good faith edits to "correct it" ;-) --jwandersTalk 01:11, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I looked it up as well, and have already switched it back. Thanks for the heads up. Happy editing! -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 01:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


This user Kaustuv continually vandalizes the page of Jerome Armstrong. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 01:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


Hi. Thanks for reverting the (I hate the term, but) vandalism to my user page. Sincerely appreciated. Kaustuv Chaudhuri 02:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Venu Thomas

Again. Fan-1967 18:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

He has been reported and I am watching him closely. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
He's recreated it again. Please block him. But if you do, can you archive his talk page and put a big pretty picture with an explanation of why? I don't think he gets it (WP:AGF). - CobaltBlueTony 18:49, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not an admin, but I've reported him to WP:AIV. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
And again at VenuThomas Fan-1967 19:29, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Personal attacks

Please read Wikipedia's policy on personal attacks before making such comments in the future, as you may be blocked if you continue. And for the record, I'm not trying to cause trouble, only figure out what this Wiki stuff is all about. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 19:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Telling you to "stop being a troublemaker" when you're making trouble isn't a personal attack. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 19:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for reverting the Vandalism on my user page --Mikedk9109 19:32, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


Im a tad perplexed about the edit you reverted —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 20:04, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I'm totally perplexed as well. Please, omic, explain these confusing actions that you undertook, especially how you reverted the use of the descriptive noun "asshole" on a biographical page. (/sarcasm) Killfest2Daniel.Bryant 02:38, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Sometimes I wake up in strange computer labs, like the public one at the local university. I quickly log in to Wikipedia and check my contributions, only to find long strings of unfamiliar edits, sometimes with no rhyme or reason behind them. After the initial bewilderment, I inevitably accept the grim truth -- I've been sleep-reverting again. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 02:39, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Happens to me all the time. I can't say you're alone. αChimp laudare 02:47, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
This phenomenon would seem to merit further study; I suggest we write a grant proposal, or possibly apply for a Federal subsidy. --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 16:41, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


Kevin loves you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 29 July 2006 (UTC)


Before, that page (Chris Scullion)was pending deletion, and I did it as a joke. It is part of a little forum war between fans of different writers for the magazine, so it wasn't meant in a malicious way, but in a form of good humour. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 16:24, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


That was awfully tempting... =) Had my cursor over the revert link. -- Gogo Dodo 01:43, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I consider myself very lucky right now. Seriously though, we're two idiots who think that kind of thing is funny. If he objects (and I'll talk to him later on tonight), I'll blank it and warn myself. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 01:44, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
It's a rather odd edit, not knowing the reference. I probably would have blanked it should you have not made the note in the edit summary and I had not known about your vandal fighting history. It looks like everybody else didn't seem to mind since nobody else blanked it or mentioned it. -- Gogo Dodo 03:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Although I know it means nothing coming from me, the user in question pretty much stated he didn't mind. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 04:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
It's all good. To quote Wesley Willis, "It CAN break a glass." What that has to do with it is not for me to say. -- AquinasProtocol 04:58, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Glad that's settled. =) You know, one of these days you'll have to let me revert a vandal. For the past dozen or so reverts, I've tried to do, you've jumped ahead of me. =) Nice work. -- Gogo Dodo 07:53, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Sorry about that! I know the feeling. I'm actually using an anti-vandal tool (VandalSniper) which lets me track edits as they're made, so I'm kind of "cheating", I guess. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 07:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
No worries. =) It didn't bother me any, just thought it was rather funny. The odd ones are where I succeed in making the revert, but then find out somebody else has warned the user for the revert I did. Not sure how that comes about. Oh, well, as long as everything gets done, doesn't matter who is doing it. Again, nice work. =) -- Gogo Dodo 07:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)


As you have requested I have responded concerning the article about Kurt Russel. I don't believe I have made any inappropriate changes. Thus I do not understand the reason for your hostility. Please give me a response as soon as possible. -- 04:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)


I noticed that you kept reverting the edits I made to these talk pages. I am the user that is being accused of sockpuppeting (Ericsaindon2). You see, there was this user a month or so ago that went on this rampage to make me miserable, and made a bunch of pages that claimed to be my sockpuppets. I am just finishing the reverts, and I would appreciate it if you would remove the unverified and unsourced claims that you keep reverting. Thank you, and I beg you to put all 15 of those pages back to blank for what that user did was pure vandalism, and it nneds to be removed until a checkuser is completed. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 06:19, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Perchance, it is not dead but sleepeth

Hi, thanks for pointing out the possible transgression re. this item, however I am fairly certain that this use of templates is permitted. I have expanded the explanation on the talk page, and once you are happy that this is in order, I trust you will revert your previous edit. Regards, Lynbarn 10:07, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm... Yes, I can see what you mean about appearing to be an advertisement - the intention was to link the historical information from several related articles with what is being done now - I will revise the content to make that point more succinctly, and perhaps with less of a marketing slant!
Many thanks for pointing this out - and also for your other comments! Regards, Lynbarn 08:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Have another barnstar...

Minor Barnstar.png The Minor Barnstar
I award Omicronpersei8 this minor barnstar for his tireless efforts to help me get VS working. Keep up the great work! alphaChimp laudare 15:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I've been meaning to give this to you. You never had to help me with VandalSniper, but you've done such a nice job and put in such good effort. Right now I'm assuming it's just a router issue. Anyway, you've earned it. Hang in there! alphaChimp laudare 15:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment. I actually haven't done anything with the CIA thing yet, because I don't have bot approval for the task yet. My main issue with posting logs from knoppix is that I have to type them manually...there isn't really a way for me to copy and paste if I don't have internet access on the affected machine. For the time being, I'm going to hold off. I might replace my router in a few weeks, and I'll try to get something newer that might not have the same issues. So yeah, alphaChimp laudare 17:58, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Which reminds me, CrazyComputers, who made VandalSniper, just posted an RFA. I'm not encouraging you to vote either way, but you would probably be interested in checking it out. alphaChimp laudare 18:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I think I'm going to have to withhold a vote on that since I haven't been here long, but thanks for pointing that out -- I'll keep that page on my watchlist.
So, when do we see your RFA? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:15, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Hahaha. Soon. Probably before the end of August. =D alphaChimp laudare 18:20, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Totally Lost

I have absolutely no idea what this warning is about or why. I simply was looking for a definition on widow mites and had this message appear that I had a message. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 19:25, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

It's probably not your fault. Don't worry about it; it was presumably someone else on AOL before you. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 22:36, 30 July 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for reverting my user and talk pages. E Asterion u talking to me? 00:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


Sorry about that. I always check it out because it seems to never be completely 100% up to date all the time. There is actually only one confirmed cast member, and two people still undecided if they will or will not say yes to the picture. Sometimes it seems that no one actually goes to the link to check out the cast so far as the older cast members names have popped up on the Cast section. I do appologize for the inconvienience (spelling?) but it would be nice if it was always 100% right so far. Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 04:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


...for reverting the vandalism to my userpage. A little belated perhaps, but nonetheless. Cheers. Lectonar 05:31, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

RC mistakes userbox

Can I use the mistakes userbox you use? Is there a template for it?--Gdo01 05:37, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Sure you can. No template, I scratched it out myself. You're welcome to use it and change it as you like.
Just a word of note: If you use VandalProof or think you might be interested in it, it already has a function that tallies up your edits and lets you mark mistakes. It can also post a ratio of good edits to bad edits on your user page. Just letting you know in case you don't want to go the manual route. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 05:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
P.S. Think I should make a template for it? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 05:52, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
I've actually already applied for VandalProof but GIen seems to be busy. Anyway thanks, I didn't know VandalProof did that and from my current viewpoint VandalProof seems too good to be true.
Yes I think you should--Gdo01 14:32, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
How's this? I changed it a little; critiques are welcome.
Report a mistake on the talk page This user makes mistakes on RC patrol. (Report one)
-- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm using it right now. Thanks--Gdo01 17:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Uh to report a mistake I'm supposed to know the Id number of my edit. Where do I find that?--Gdo01 17:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
To find that, you can look at your contributions list and find your edit entry. You can just click on the diff of an edit, and then the line that begins with "Revision as of" above your username.
For example, I clicked on the 'diff' link for your last edit in this page's history, then the revision line above your nickname. The url in my location box is now, so the edit ID is 67076638. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:06, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks again.--Gdo01 19:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)


MeatballWiki is neither a commercial nor private website. It is a public online community about wikis and online communities. I was sharing this resource with User talk:Andicat as that user researches wikis. -- 05:43, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

What about the several other users whose talk pages you placed the same subject matter on? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 05:50, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Read their posts and userpages. Each user either researches wikis or asked on a talk page about wanting to learn how to create wiki communities. I didn't know that sharing a public resource with those interested was a crime, especially about wiki communities on Wikipedia! -- 05:52, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I will certainly take this into consideration. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 06:19, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Knoppix Issues

It's no problem. I'm glad you're willing to take a look. I'm running Knoppix 5.01 DVD on a HP TC1100 tablet PC. I'm at work right now and I'm having similar issues, although with a static IP.

I'll explain my work problem now, and go into the home issue later if need be. I go into Network Settings. My eth0 device is there (I assume that's my network card). I enable the interface, enter my ip and netmask, default gateway, etc. I copied the settings from a working computer, so they should work. The computer shows up on the network, and the ethernet lights are on, with the green blinking occasionally.

Trouble is, whenever I try to open firefox or konqueror, nothing will load. It always times out. I seem to be able to pull the header from the official knoppix site. I appreciate any help you can provide =). Let me know if you need any further info. Alphachimp talk 18:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Has /etc/resolv.conf been updated? To diagnose whether you're communicating with the nameserver, try host at the terminal.
I suspect the problem is either with the static routes, the nameserver configuration, or the device interface could simply not be "up". Let me know if you couldn't resolve with host.
I am actually downloading Knoppix 5.0.1 right now (my latest version was 3.9), and I'll see if I can get VandalSniper working on that. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 18:17, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
"connection timed out. no servers could be reached." Seems like that's the problem. I'm pretty sure that I got our DNS servers entered correctly, though.
What's the equivalent of the "broadcast ip" in windows or os x? (I've actually got both right here.) Alphachimp talk 19:00, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Should just be x.x.x.255. Could you please paste the terminal output of the following three commands for me?

$ cat /etc/resolv.conf; route -n; ifconfig eth0;

If you don't want to make this data public, I have a way for you to send it to me without either of us having to post e-mail addresses here. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 19:10, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh, you're asking what the broadcast IP is called. I don't exactly remember. I thought it was just "broadcast address". Windows usually fills that in for you, I believe. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 19:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Enable email. I'll send you my results (I'd rather not post the ip here.) Alphachimp talk 19:26, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Sure. Leave it here (link removed) -- only I'll be able to see it on my site's admin page. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 19:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind, I just enabled e-mail. I forgot about that feature. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 19:44, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Haha, no worries. I actually got the internet working here (at work, no DHCP, static IP). It turns out I was requesting an unallocated (although it was on my table) ip address. I still can't get the DHCP working off my router at home. I'm going to try running VS right now. Alphachimp talk 19:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
I got the program downloaded, but clicking on it doesn't seem to don anything. Am I missing something? Alphachimp talk 19:58, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Glad to hear you got networking up. Did you install the .NET framework et al yet? If so, try running vs.exe from the terminal to see the error output. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 20:01, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Alright, I'm home. I didn't have time to install those packages at work. Anyway, the network situation is really strange here. When I use the host (or any domain for that matter), it provides me with a complete breakdown of the site information (ip, mailservers). The computer shows up on my router. I still timeout everytime I attempt to access a website. Alphachimp talk 01:14, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
That's either a distribution-specific or version-specific configuration for host -- my setups' versions of the utility show the MX records and everything too.
Okay, I'm going to have to just brainstorm and throw out some ideas for your browsing problems. Do you have an unworking proxy address set up in preferences (also check the http_proxy environment variable)? Is your router rejecting port 80 requests for some crazy reason, or only forwarding UDP packets? Is it performing erroneous NAT? Is iptables running on your Linux box with a bad ruleset (iptables -L to check)? If you need help with any of these checks, let me know. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 02:53, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
One more thing: I've seen erratic behavior by nForce ethernet devices in Knoppix (lsmod|grep forcedeth). That's probably a longshot, though. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:00, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
I'll check those out in the morning. One of my computers has an nForce 3 device, but the problems are consistent across both. Thanks so much for your help. I'll get back to you in the morning. By the way, did you finish getting knoppix? Alphachimp talk 04:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
I got it at work but had some CD-RW issues, and I just got it a short while ago at home but totally forgot about it. I will get it burnt soon and see if I can get VS working. I'll post here if I do. You have a good night. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 05:00, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks so much. I don't think it should matter, but I downloaded the DVD version. I think it just has a few more (read, a ton, including games, it's sort of ridiculous) apps installed. Alphachimp talk 05:04, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me. I suspect all the important system stuff is the same between both versions. I would give the DVD version a try but I have no DVD-RW drives or discs here at the moment.
I'm exhausted, so I might have to continue this in the morning as well, if you don't mind. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 05:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Alpha, thanks for being so patient. I finally did what I said I'd do and try installing VS in Knoppix 5.0.1.
First, regarding network access: everything worked for me after setting up my static route (completely non-DHCP network). All I did was the following:


ifconfig eth0 up
route add default gw
echo nameserver > /etc/resolv.conf


And I was resolving fine. So, I unfortunately will have to just refer you to my above ideas for why your network access isn't working, since it doesn't seem that the new Knoppix version has a particularly weird networking setup -- sorry.

I am now working on getting VandalSniper working. I will update soon. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 00:31, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I just did exactly what you did. I reconfigured my router to disable DHCP. I still can't connect to websites, but it is still providing domain information (like I said before). Alphachimp talk 00:46, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
But everything works fine in Windows?
This is a really odd problem to me. You may need to get a second opinion, as you may have some crucial Windows settings that I've never heard of, and I don't use Windows all that much nowadays. See if you can download something at the terminal using wget or whatever you prefer (to make sure it's not a problem with Konqueror/Firefox). -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 01:00, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

VandalSniper installation on Knoppix 5.0.1

I now have VandalSniper working perfectly in Knoppix 5.0.1. Here is a rundown of the steps I used. I am simply going to type out the exact series of terminal commands you can use to duplicate my actions, which proved successful. Again, I am using the regular CD version of Knoppix, not the DVD version you have, but I suspect the same procedure may work for you.

  1. cd ~/Desktop; su
  2. wget
  3. Set up /etc/apt/sources.list. You need a working stable source and a working testing source. There are a number of servers you could use, but is consistently fast for me, so you might just want to use what I did. Here are the copy-and-paste-friendly contents of my /etc/apt/sources.list:

    deb stable main contrib non-free
    deb testing main contrib non-free

    Note: Yes, I skipped the security updates lines.
  4. apt-get update
  5. apt-get install libnspr4 mozilla-browser
  6. During the next part, I ran out of space on my RAMdisk, so to be on the safe side, run:

    rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb

  7. apt-get install mono libmono1.0-cil libgtk2.0-cil libglade2.0-cil libgecko2.0-cil
    (Copied directly from the the VandalSniper page.)
  8. dpkg -i libgecko2.0-cil_0.11-2_all.deb
    (Also from the VandalSniper page; do let libgecko2.0-cil version 0.11-3 install first and then use this command line to downgrade it, as I'm not sure dpkg alone will fetch the needed dependencies.)
  9. tar xjf vandalsniper-39.tar.bz2
  10. ln -s /etc /ramdisk/usr
    (This corrects a missing path startup error.)
  11. cp vandalsniper-39/*dll* /usr/lib
    (Makes needed libraries accessible system-wide.)

That should do it as far as making it work. Now you can just open the vandalsniper-39 directory on your desktop and click on vs.exe. If you have problems, let me know where you got hung up. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 02:29, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Back to the network problems

I still haven't been able to establish a connection. This whole problem seems really strange to me. Windows networking works, btw. My local router (microsoft mn-500) ip is The DHCP assigned ip for the linux box is
Here's something strange. When I do the wget thing like you suggest, it says:
Connecting to||:80...connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response.... 
And then it response. I get a similar response when I start going through the steps you outlined so clearly above.
While trying to remove DHCP and screw around with my settings, I messed up my connection and had to call my ISP, Verizon Avenue to get a password reset. I asked the tech about the Linux issue and she told me that "we do not support Linux". I think that's total BS, and I'm not sure whether that means that they don't offer any help for Linux users or don't allow Linux to connect. This whole thing is just really confusing me. Alphachimp talk 05:53, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Ugh, sorry about leading you into messing up your connection. Password? This could be relevant. Do you have to log in every time you get online? Is there a login agent that runs in the background at Windows startup? (I don't know anything about Verizon Avenue.) Regarding the Linux support, I'm pretty sure she just meant they don't offer help with Linux, which is a pretty common ISP practice. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 09:31, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
No, the connection to the isp is over dhcp. I wouldn't allow any bs password manager to run in the background. You have to register the mac addy's of the individual computers that connect, but I only have to register my router. I suspect that the issue is the DHCP between my MS router and the linux box. Alphachimp talk 16:26, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree, it could be that the DHCP server isn't passing all the settings over. Have you rechecked your routing setup with cat /etc/resolv.conf and route -n after acquiring a DHCP lease? -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 21:13, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I just wanted to say I'm really sorry for not posting in the last day or so. I'm not allowed access to the internet at work and was kind of frustrated by the problem (and hence didn't work on it) on Sunday. My router is a discontinued MN-500 microsoft wireless (802.11b) router. It's running A DHCP connection with Verizon Avenue (registered via DHCP) and connects to my MS Windows computers (4) via DHCP. My 4 computers are running 3 copies of XP Pro and 1 copy of XP Tablet PC edition (which is the same as XP pro). They all work flawlessly (plug and play). VZ Avenue requires that I register the MAC of each computer connecting, so I registered the router. It's never been an issue since then.

I'm just incredibly confused by how I get an error whenever I click the little knoppix penguin and go to netcardconfig and select DHCP (yes). It says:

Sending DHCP broadcast from device eth0Operation failed.
Hit return to exit.

As for your suggested steps above, I've followed them, but I'm going to have to put off more work until tomorrow around this time.

That's pretty much the same thing that happened on one of my other computers (another failed to load knoppix). I assume it's some issue with my router here. Microsoft obviously hates you think they would try to block it with their router?

Anyway, thanks so, so much for trying to help me. It really means a lot to me. Perhaps you should post your tutorial along with VS as a possible work-around for Windows Users. I'm sure a lot would be interested. I have been able to connect from work (static ip), so I could probably config VS from there (of course I'm very apprehensive to do that for obvious reasons).

VS looks amazing because it seems to pick up everywhere Amidaniel has failed to update in VP (e.g. IRC feed, swear word filter, etc.). Even though I can revert a ton of vandalism with VP, I'm not getting anywhere near the efficiency I would be getting with VS.

Regards, Alphachimp talk 05:16, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem at all; I certainly don't require consistent updates from you, as it's obvious you're busy, and I know how trying Linux can be. Sorry I haven't helped you break through the barrier yet. I want to help, it's just that it could be a simple problem, like a misconfigured DHCP setup, or a complex one, like bad Linux wireless drivers. The second situation could certainly be it, because wireless drivers in Linux are mostly just buggy hacks.
I know I've gotten into the bad habit of hurling vague advice at you when I get stumped, but try looking at dmesg output for anything relevant. In addition to this and examining the network setup as listed above, you could run the wmwave desklet to make sure it's not just an issue of your wireless connection going out (which I doubt). Sooner or later, I know your problem will get figured out. I hope at least a small tidbit of my advice might help you get there. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 17:33, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
And thanks for your suggestion of spreading the installation setups I posted. I was actually giving that a little thought, but I guess I need to recheck the steps several times first. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 17:35, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

This is sort of random, but I just linked another guy up with this tutorial. Once he's been approved for AWB, I told him to check here. alphaChimp laudare 03:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. -- Omicronpersei8 (talk) 03:36, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

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