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Paulina Longworth Sturm's father[edit]

We've a conflict here. I edited in that Paulina Longworth Sturm was William Borah daughter, at his infobox. But was reverted by Wehwalt. With that, I made edits to the related bio articles & got reverted by you, the other way. Which of you is correct? GoodDay (talk) 15:25, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

As far as I know, Borah was her father. Snuggums (talk / edits) 15:27, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps you & Wehwalt can work it out. It's best to have all these articles consistent, one way or the other. GoodDay (talk) 15:36, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
Do you (SNUGGUMS) have a ref on that? All I know of is the Longworth biographer who said so. Biographers say all sorts of things and I am reluctant to be definite without DNA (not likely) or an admission by Borah or Alice.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:02, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
According to NPR, and The New York Times, and The Washington Post, Borah was Paulina's father. There is also Founders and Famous Families of Cincinnati by Wendy Beckman, saying "In her diary, Alice Longworth admitted that Paulina was the result of a long-term affair with Senator William Borah from Idaho" on page 51, and Princess Alice: The Life and Times of Alice Roosevelt Longworth by Carol Felsenthal, which says "Alice shared a perverse intimacy with her daughter. She told Paulina that Nick Longworth was not her father." on page 217 (which might be the biography you were referring to). Snuggums (talk / edits) 00:44, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Precious anniversary[edit]

Two years ago ...
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Katy Perry
... you were recipient
no. 1016 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

The GT/FT box for AHS in WP:GAGA[edit]

Sorry I did not feel I made myself clear here? Let me know. —IB [ Poke ] 13:33, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

If you said so before that edit, then my bad; must've missed or forgotten about it. I figured that all the season's episodes would be included in GT/FT boxes for just the AHS WikiProject in this case. Snuggums (talk / edits) 15:41, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Robin Williams Infobox[edit]

Hey Snugguns, I was wondering if your can fix the Infobox of Robin Williams? The box says "{{Infobox comedian" can you change it too "{{Infobox person", because "{{Infobox comedian" and his comedy career stuff is already listed below the Infobox and the box shouldn't say "{{Infobox comedian" twice in a row, I would appreciate it if you did. I couldn't do it because the article is protected. And please fix his occupations as "Stand-up comedian and actor" while your at it too please. Thanks! 😁2600:1000:B077:A675:D0D3:A8FD:FBFE:E163 (talk) 14:06, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

No problem, and I'm glad you pointed that out. Snuggums (talk / edits) 17:03, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, also can u fix the occupations in there too, as "Stand-up comedian, actor". 2600:1000:B03F:D7CF:349E:2FCF:CAE5:93DE (talk) 17:36, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done they now match the opening sentence and aren't inflated Snuggums (talk / edits) 17:55, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you!, just looked at it just now and it looks much better now. But the "S" for "stand-up comedian" in his occupations section should be a capital letter as well. Sorry, I'm not trying to boss you around about it. I just wanted to make sure there were no more mistakes and errors on the article, that's all. And that's the only last thing I found. 2600:1000:B02A:66C3:EDEF:B029:742E:EB25 (talk) 22:32, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Nothing to worry about. I also changed it to just "comedian" for infobox and opening sentence since those should be for general descriptions and more specific details tend to come in subsequent text. If you have any further requests, feel free to raise them on the article's talk page. Snuggums (talk / edits) 23:02, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

RfC: ADM[edit]

Howdy. As a member of WP:ALBUMS, if you have a position on whether AnyDecentMusic should be kept as an option in the album ratings template, please share it by weighing in on this RfC. Thank you. Dan56 (talk) 20:08, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

I'll have a look. Snuggums (talk / edits) 23:02, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles's 2016-2017 GA Cup[edit]

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Don't understand you[edit]

[1] What ambiguity? What "stylistic concern"? Please explain. IHTS (talk) 06:04, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

And what "consensus"? (From WP:DATERANGE: Two-digit ending years (1881–82, but never 1881–882 or 1881–2) may be used [...] in infoboxes and tables where space is limited (using a single format consistently in any given table column). IHTS (talk) 06:08, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Look at the top of the WP:DATERANGE section, which says A change from a preference for two digits, to a preference for four digits, on the right side of year–year ranges was implemented in July 2016 per the thread I linked. As the initiator of that thread stated, two-year dates can be vague compared to four-year digits and less professional looking. A possible ambiguity concern is over what century a two digit year is referring to. Snuggums (talk / edits) 06:12, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
What century Trump was a member of any particular political party?!? And don't you think "less professional looking" is subjective opinion? And by adding four digit ending years, your change pushed the data in infobox into multiple lines, rather than single lines. (If we're making subjective calls, then I'd say that is messier, harder to assimilate, and explodes/exaggerates the space needed to contain the info. But I guess you don't weigh that as well, under "stylistic points"?) It's a minor thing, I don't plan to revert, just letting you know someone disagrees and why. IHTS (talk) 08:50, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
It is indeed minor, but I was really just making a general point with regard to centuries. As I stated before, the RFC linked indicates that four digits are overall preferred over two. Snuggums (talk / edits) 13:27, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
But that is not a basis for the change you made, which was a minor disimprovement IMO. (The new MoS allows two-digit years, if "overall" killed allowable exceptions, then there would never be any need for MoS making allowable exceptions, would there?) IHTS (talk) 17:43, 5 November 2016 (UTC)


What are you talking about? Please give difflinks if you had a problem. That dubious statement does not help anybody. --SamWinchester000 (talk) 16:46, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

See this, and remember to always use an edit summary for your contributions so people can sense what your intent is. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:38, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but that edit was absolutely self-explanatory. The written sentence in the article said everything. Moreover, if e. g. the The Trevor Project award is listed just because The Trevor Project (but not the award itself) has its own article and informates about that award, listing the red! Star-Award from de:red! Stars, Lifestyle & More would be pretty much the same. --SamWinchester000 (talk) 00:15, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

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Trump birthplace[edit]

Re [2], "New York City" is the product of about 8 days of discussion. I can't revert you without violating 1RR. Yesterday I removed the hidden comment protecting that field as unnecessary, do you think I should put it back? ―Mandruss  20:43, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

No; as I said in my edit, having only a city listed in infobox is incomplete. At the very least include the state. The flaw with the suggestion that NYC by itself is enough is how it's overly US-centric as it presumes the readers are American or know its geography. There are people who don't fit into either field, and we shouldn't ignore that. I'm also fine with using "Queens, New York". In any case, it's hard to believe such detail led to a massive thread! Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:26, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Mandruss, I do appreciate the notice, and hope that thread doesn't become outright disastrous! Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:30, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
You're an experienced editor, and I've known you to be a reasonable one. So I'm very surprised to see you state that your judgment, no matter how strongly you feel about it, should supersede 8 days of discussion including perhaps 5 experienced editors. I doubt your edit will stand very long, but as I said I can't revert it. Please observe WP:CONSENSUS. Thanks. ―Mandruss  22:08, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Why should Trump's birthplace be listed differently from e. g. John Jay's, Albert Gallatin's or that of any other person in Wikipedia? --SamWinchester000 (talk) 00:02, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

I hadn't noticed the thread beforehand (to be fair, there are many threads on that talk page right now), and agree with Sam that his parameter shouldn't have its own special form. Even when looking through after reading your comments here, there also didn't exactly seem to be any definite consensus. Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:42, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
What editors have decided at John Jay, Albert Gallatin, Benito Mussolini, or Britney Spears is immaterial to Donald Trump. That is not the way we make these decisions. If the community felt we needed a consistent format for that field across articles, we would have a guideline. We do not. There is as much consensus as we are likely to ever get on something like this, but you are free to comment there as an equal participant, reviving a discussion that I felt was finally resolved. In an article that is under ArbCom restrictions, you are not free to act unilaterally outside that discussion because you don't see a consensus. You didn't know about the discussion at the time of your edit, but you do now. ―Mandruss  03:39, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
It is true that what one page decides on doesn't really affect what other pages decide on. Regarding guidelines on format, it probably would help to establish something so the community doesn't have to go through such discussions like the one you linked. Left my thoughts on the talk page. Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:59, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Damian Sanders-Baron listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


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Uploading images from Creative Commons videos[edit]

This image and all other images I uploaded were taken from YouTube videos uploaded with a Creative Commons Attribution licence, meaning that the frames of the video have been published under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported licence. Please do not remove them. Neegzistuoja (talk) 00:39, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

It would've helped if that link was included in the file to avoid copyright concerns. Snuggums (talk / edits) 00:48, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
Fair enough. Turns out there is a YouTube CC-BY tag that should help. Neegzistuoja (talk) 06:14, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:A Christmas Melody.jpg[edit]

Thanks for uploading File:A Christmas Melody.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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I've restored the pic since that removal came from an IP blanking parts of an infobox without explaining why (potentially a vandal). Snuggums (talk / edits) 13:33, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

J-Law GAN[edit]

I have also included you as one of the nominators for Jennifer Lawrence's GAN. You did not expand the article but I think that you have been around the page for a while now. Also, be ready for your second (possible) FAC. – FrB.TG (talk) 12:44, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

I might not have done recent expansions, FrB.TG, but definitely have worked on her page for quite a while. Thanks for the inclusion! Snuggums (talk / edits) 14:42, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

4th Annual GA Cup - Round 1[edit]

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Submitted a response. Snuggums (talk / edits) 16:40, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy Birthday![edit]

Thank you Lepricavark! I just hope that Blink-182 was wrong when said "nobody likes you when you're 23" :P. Snuggums (talk / edits) 05:12, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Happy birthday![edit]

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Wish you a very Happy Birthday, Snuggums! Have a great one. Face-smile.svg FrB.TG (talk) 08:08, 7 December 2016 (UTC)