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June 27

Why is the town of Lantana, Florida relying on a Census reading of 12 years old?

Its population stats are WAYYYYY off in regard of stats...and when its changed to what its should be, its reverts back to what it was....totally inaccurate! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.151.175.153 (talk) 00:01, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

It says its using 2010 census data. What makes you think the information is 12 years old? RudolfRed (talk) 00:09, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

This editor keeps changing the figures with no apparent source or edit summary and wonders why they keep being reverted. Britmax (talk) 00:14, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I've updated a new corporate logo file, but I cannot link the new logo file to the corporate web page

I've uploaded a new corporate logo file, which was designed and created in January 2012 by an in-house design team. However, I cannot figure out how to link the new logo file to the corporate webpage. Here is the URL of the corporate web page in question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certify_Data_Systems.

Dtakegami (talk) 00:43, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Images always link to the image page. Also, there is already a link to the company website in the infobox. RudolfRed (talk)

External links may not be used that way: see WP:EXT for Wikipedia's policy on external links. --ColinFine (talk) 08:54, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Colleges in Hawaii - incorrect Info on Remington College

To Whom It May Concern -

I noticed an error in listing Remington College as a For-Profit institution on this web page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_Hawaii

Can you please change the listing to Private, non-profit Institutions? Here is a link to Remington College's website where you will see the correct Private, Non-Profit status: http://www.remingtoncollege.edu/

Thank you for your assistance. 67.53.48.178 (talk) 00:47, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. The article for Remington already shows that it's non-profit, so I moved it to the right section in the list. Thanks for pointing it out. Also, next time you see an error, you can fix it yourself: be bold. RudolfRed (talk) 00:56, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Huh?

On player-coach, there is this weird link on the top right that says "last updated [time] minutes/seconds ago." No other page has it. Is this a feature being tested, or...? CyanGardevoir ^{(used EDIT!)} 03:11, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

That's bizarre. I figured it would be part of the "approved revisions" test we did a little while ago, but it looks like it refers just to the last edit in the page history. A helpful feature for editors to see how up-to-date the article is, I would say. I would like to see the feature on all pages, at least for logged-in users. CaseyPenk (talk) 03:45, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I see a "This page was last modified on [date]" at the bottom of all pages. I've never seen anything at the top, including in the linked article. Maybe it depends on what skin you're using? RudolfRed (talk) 03:57, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

You don't see it, really? I'm using the standard skin and a few add-ons. Perhaps some other people can share their feedback as to whether or not they see the given text. CaseyPenk (talk) 04:38, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't see it logged out (Vector) or in (Monobook) using both Firefox and Safari.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:50, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I see it in Chrome + Safari + Opera, but not Firefox. I'm using Mac OS X.6.8 CaseyPenk (talk) 04:59, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

That's weird, I only see it in Firefox. Does not appear in IE, Safari (iPad 3 version) or Chrome. CyanGardevoir ^{(used EDIT!)} 05:55, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I just downloaded Google Chrome just to check. Nope, nothing.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I am genuinely bizzare-d out. Hmm. CaseyPenk (talk) 05:15, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 100#New feature experiment. I'm seeing the extra message at player-coach (Firefox), but it goes away if I tick "Exclude me from feature experiments" in "My preferences". If there's some A/B testing going on then it is quite possible that different users are being shown different versions of the message. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:26, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. I hope to see this implemented site-wide! Very helpful. 24.19.209.126 (talk) 06:28, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Aha! Thanks John. I do indeed have that ticked, which is why I am not seeing it and some of you are (though it's still a bit weird that I'm not seeing it when logged out).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 06:31, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 100#New feature experiment says: "For one week, we're going to try presenting the new timestamp to 50% of viewers on a random sample of just under 3,000 articles." (That was posted June 7 but such experiments tend to last longer than announced). The 50% are chosen in a way where a logged in user may be included in one browser and excluded in another. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:56, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Problem seems to have fixed itself *confused* CyanGardevoir ^{(used EDIT!)} 05:55, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

It has been turned off.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 10:13, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Israel Jiménez

I try to translate the article on Israel Jiménez Danish. I have encountered problems when I tried to translate the section on statistics, as there is no similar templates in Danish wiki. It would help me greatly if I could get the table surrounding his career statistics in a standard table format without templates. In advance, thank you for your help.--89.249.2.53 (talk) 10:30, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

You can copy the wiki source to Special:ExpandTemplates but the resulting code may not be pretty. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:11, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

spare parts

kindly furnish me with how i can purchase spare parts for the swaraj which here in zimbabwe we call the mazda T 35 THANK U.

FIONA PFUKWA FROM ZIMBABWE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.246.55.142 (talk) 12:45, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:18, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Unable to undo edit to Library (computing)

I attempted to add the updated text

In computer science, a library is a collection of resources used by programs on a computer, often to develop software. These may include pre-written code and subroutines, classes, values, documentation, help data, message templates or type specifications. In some systems there are referred to as, e.g., partitioned data sets.

to Library (computing). The editing window came up blank after preview instead of retaining the text and markup for the article. The undo button also brought up an empty editing window. The browser was FireFox 11.0. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 13:34, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Library (computing) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Somehow you managed to blank the article, but this was repaired shortly afterwards. I don't know what happened. If it happens again it may be worth posting here with your browser name and version. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:05, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

new article creation

I have created article for my dad Bashir Mujavar.But it was cancelled by wikipedia.resob I do not know. he is well known writer in marathi.He has 8 marathi books published in Marathi language. And all the books are there in market.He has won so many awards for his writting in marathi.Which resources you are refering to find truth.The other marathi writers who are not upto his levels also got there artices published on wikipedia.I want proper resoning for cancellation of article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daharengg (talk • contribs) 15:28, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I can see that the reason for the article was deleted was because there were no sources. Try to restore the article, with the same content and add some sources.--109.232.72.49 (talk) 19:23, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Before you try again, please read WP:BLP, WP:CITE and WP:COI. --ColinFine (talk) 21:23, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Adding more than one extra column to Template:Track listing

Hi, I would like to add TWO extra columns to Template:Track listing. If you look at FabricLive.59, I'd like to use it like that, but with the Writer(s) column renamed Artist. The problem is that the 'extra' column has already been used up as Label, which I also want to keep. Is the solution to add a second extra column? If so, how do I do it? Thanks. — sparklism ^hey! 15:45, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Try asking at WP:VPT.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:44, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Done, thanks for the suggestion. — sparklism ^hey! 20:39, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

How to make pages live

Hi. I did a page for Jesus Papoleto Melendez and would like to know when it will go live, or do I have to do something for it to go live? Cheers and thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gdavid01 (talk • contribs) 16:08, 27 June 2012 (UTC)--Gdavid01 (talk) 16:10, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

It seems that your page is already 'live' at Jesús Papoleto Meléndez. (You don't have to do anything to make pages live - editing Wiki is instantaneous). Happy editing! — sparklism ^hey! 18:15, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Jesús Papoleto Meléndez has been live since the moment you created it three days ago. If your concern is that external search engines like Google may not have added it to their search index yet then it's not controlled by Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:15, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Do, however, take a look at the tags I've place on it as pointers towards ways in which the article can be improved. I've already has a start, by fixing the various places where he was referred to by his nickname instead of by his last name; and by deleting the material which duplicated the content of Nuyorican Movement. We need more and better sources than his own publishers' websites, which are after all basically advertisements for their publications. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:18, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Help with changes to Jack Welch article

Hi, I'm interested in improving Jack Welch's article and have been proposing suggested changes on the Talk page there, and I'd like to ask if anyone here is able to help with these changes. The reason I'm suggesting the changes on the Talk page rather than making them myself is that I work for Strayer University, which runs the Jack Welch Management Institute, so I believe I may have a conflict of interest with Jack Welch as a subject, although I do not work for him personally. The most recent changes I've suggested are focused on:

• moving details about his career after GE under the appropriate heading

• potentially removing or moving details about his opinion on shareholder value to a more appropriate section

• removing criticisms that are unsourced or not supported by sources provided (or any source I can find)

I have also asked for assistance at the BLP noticeboard, and the Paid Editor Help page but so far only one editor has replied. Although they agree to the changes they looked at, they'd prefer if other editors also commented before making any changes. I'd be very grateful if any editors here could look at my requests and make the edits if they agree with them. Thanks, Hamilton83 (talk) 16:09, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

This is not really the best place to ask this question. This page is intended for clearing up questions regarding how to use Wikipedia, not for making requests. To begin with, it looks like you've made the right moves by bringing your suggestions to the talk page and by asking for assistance at the BLP noticeboard at Paid Editor Help. I also can't stress enough how mature and considerate you are for abiding by Wikipedia's COI rules. The only further advice I would give you is to try posting requests for assistance at the talk pages of the various WikiProjects that are associated with the Jack Welch article. Specifically, you can post requests at the following:

• WikiProject Biography talk page
• WikiProject Connecticut talk page
• WikiProject United States talk page
• Wikiproject Cape Cod and the Islands talk page
• WikiProject University of Massachussetts talk page
• WikiProject Business talk page

I hope that helps. -Thibbs (talk) 14:29, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Editing Information that is already present

I am having difficulty updating information; Logo, etc. about our Port, found on Wikipedia. I have created an account. Whenever I go in to make changes it looks like I should be able to edit but it does not accept any changes? Can someone give me suggestions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.220.248.18 (talk) 16:41, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

This is about Port of Skagit County. You have made two edits, both to delete material. Both were effective, the material remains deleted. Maproom (talk) 17:21, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/74.220.248.18 shows two edits from your IP address 9 June 2010. I doubt it's this you refer to. What is your username, which page are you trying to edit and what exactly happens when you try it? Do you click "Save page" without getting a message? PrimeHunter (talk) 18:08, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Toolbar issues

When I set my preferences to RefToolbar 2.0b, it works for a while, but if I edit too many user or Wikipedia-space pages at a time, the "cite" dropdown menu disappears and I have to go to RefToolbar 2.0a for a while before switching back to get it to work again. How do I fix this without having to stop editing userspace or Wikipedia-space pages? Brambleberry of RiverClan ^{Chat ♠ Watch} 17:38, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Try asking at WP:VPT.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:42, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Set-up stock portfolios

I was referred to your web site by Forbes as a place to set-up stock portfolios.

Please let me know where this can be done and/or link me to it.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacqued (talk • contribs) 17:46, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Your issue has nothing to do with mine. Therefore, because you have a new question, please press the "new section" button at the top of the page or add double equal signs on either side of a topic name. Thank you. Brambleberry of RiverClan ^{Chat ♠ Watch} 17:55, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:01, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

block/ban related question

Hi, I have a quetion: are blocked or banned users also prohibited using wikipedia's content under CC-BY-SA license? Puramyun31 (talk) 18:49, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

As long as they comply with the terms of the license, I don't see any way they would be prohibited, whatever I might think of their sheer gall in so doing. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:56, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I cannot see how that could work. The terms of the license do not allow for selectively excluding individuals from using the work. Plus even if Wikipedia decides to end free licensing right now, all previous revisions and article versions up to now would still be available for use under the license. --Kinkykitteh (talk) 09:44, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism I don't know how to revert

I noticed on my user page vandalism relating to the picture of the day, and I can see it here: Wikipedia:Picture_of_the_day, but I don't know how to revert it. Template:POTD looks stable. Biosthmors (talk) 18:57, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm not seeing anything untoward on either page - can you be more specific? Yunshui 雲‍水 19:11, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

It's gone now, but it would be nice to know where it was inserted. Biosthmors (talk) 19:24, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Was it this? —{|Retro00064|☎talk|✍contribs|} 19:28, 27 June 2012 (UTC).

That was it, thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 20:06, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

deleted text

I am new at editing and finally figured out how to add two sentences to the Food Choice Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_choice) yesterday. I referenced two research articles to support the statements and included a link to a webpage with more information on the topic. These were all deleted as "apparent self promotion" How should I go about editing the page with information on the topic that is currently missing? MegJastran (talk) 19:19, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

You should ask this question on the article's talk page, to understand the concern of the editor who deleted your change. See WP:BRD. RudolfRed (talk) 19:45, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Re-enabling mobile redirection?

I inadvertently disabled the mobile version of wikipedia and am no longer redirected to the mobile version when I click links to Wikipedia pages on my iPhone 4 (iOS 5.0). Deleting the browser's Wikipedia data and going to the mobile homepage, as suggested elsewhere, didn't work and I can find no other viable solutions. How can I re-enable the mobile view redirection? Is this a bug in the wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidyorke (talk • contribs) 19:53, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

There's another method at WP:MOBILE (seach for "activation page") but it says it doesn't work on iPhone. You might need to just bookmark the mobile version, which is at http://en.m.wikipedia.org/. RudolfRed (talk) 20:31, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

WP:MOBILE didn't help but it had a link to the "Enable Mobile Version" talk page that gave a roundabout way to re-enable the mobile site. After much wailing and gnashing of teeth, I got it re-enabled. Is there somewhere I can file a big against the permanent disabling of the mobile site? Davidyorke (talk) 21:21, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

IPv6 is now enabled but broken

Wikipedia has started to be terribly slow (30 seconds for each request - IPv6 timeout of my Squid). This is because en.wikipedia.org has AAAA record now but its connectivity does not work:

$ tcptraceroute6 -q1 en.wikipedia.org

traceroute to wikipedia-lb.esams.wikimedia.org (2620:0:862:ed1a::1) from 2a02:2b88:2:1::270:2, port 80, from port 42569, 30 hops max, 60 bytes packets

1  vps.jankratochvil.net (2a02:2b88:2:1::270:0)  68.706 ms

2  rv2-gw-ipv6.wedos.net (2a02:2b88:2:1::1)  74.828 ms

3  r4-b.wedos.net (2a02:2b88:0:2::10)  90.764 ms

4  gw-wedos.kaora.cz (2a00:1790:0:f034::1)  77.829 ms

5  10gigabitethernet1-3.core1.prg1.he.net (2001:7f8:14::6e:1)  115.619 ms

6  10gigabitethernet5-2.core1.fra1.he.net (2001:470:0:213::1)  83.468 ms

7  10gigabitethernet1-4.core1.ams1.he.net (2001:470:0:47::1)  68.247 ms

8  xe-1-1-0.cr2-knams.wikimedia.org (2001:7f8:1::a504:3821:1)  115.254 ms

9  *

Normal traceroute6 (UDP6) behaves the same (it is also broken). Other IPv6 connectivity incl. http://ipv6.google.com works for me great. IPv4 for Wikipedia works for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jankratochvil (talk • contribs) 20:50, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

You should raise this issue at the Village Pump: WP:VPT RudolfRed (talk) 20:54, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jankratochvil (talk • contribs) 21:08, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Photo on article infobox

Hoping someone could help me re-size the lower infobox picture on the Liverpool gay quarter article...I was hoping to make it 240px in line with the rest of the images on the article. Just to clarify, the image I want to re-size is the one with the caption 'Rainbow street sign at Liverpool gay quarter' on the upper right of article page. Many thanks. Richie wright1980 (talk) 21:58, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Done in [2] with image_size = 240px. I looked at the source code of Template:Infobox street and saw the undocumented image_size parameter. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:10, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Silly me :) That seems such a simple tweak now that I look at it, but I've learned something new anyhow. Thanks a lot. Richie wright1980 (talk) 22:16, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Disable individual section editing

I am trying to disable the [edit] button for individual sections. I know about __NOEDITSECTION__, but I don't want to disable all sections, just some. I'm trying to transclude a template with a section header in it. I have a separate button to go directly to the transcluded page and edit that, but clicking the [edit] button on the main page with the transclusion leads to editing of the substituted template, rather than the nice one with the parameters listed. For an example, on the DYK nominations page, you can't edit the section headers for individual nominations, as the buttons are gone; you have to click the "Review or comment" button. But the [edit] buttons are still there for other sections. I'd greatly appreciate help with this. This is all for things I'm doing in the WP space, btw, not in mainspace. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 23:20, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I have run into this before, and am not aware of any method to create a real header without the edit link. I use {{fake heading}}, but it does not create a TOC link. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 01:16, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I figured out how to do this. Create a page called, for example Template:DummyParameter. All that needs to be is something like:

{{{1|}}}

Then create another page, e.g. Template:NoEditHeader. That one will contain:

{{DummyParameter

|1=

=={{{name}}}==

}}

Then you just write it up:

{{NoEditHeader|name=MyHeader}}

Hope this helps someone else someday. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 03:26, 28 June 2012 (UTC)