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May 21

Is there a way to reset default preferences

I can't see the button to reset my default preferences. One of them is breaking elements of the site, so I wish to revert the preferences to fix it. Lordseriouspig (talk) 00:46, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

@Lordseriouspig: There should be a "Restore all default preferences" link in Preferences → User profile. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:59, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I don't know how I didn't see that lmao. Lordseriouspig (talk) 01:03, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

User:Thebas1

I recently received a WikiLove message from a new user Thebas1. The message was random gibberish. Checking their global account, they've made eight similar edits on Wikimedia Commons, and also vandalized the talk page of a picture of Winston Churchill.

I do not know how to approach this issue, and what actions should be done; and is there a better place to report this? Roasted (talk) 02:13, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

If you are certain that the user is a Vandalism-only account, you can make a request at Wikimedia steward request for global blocks/locks. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 11:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Château de Jouy-en-Josas

Dear all. I hope you are doing well. Please may I kindly request your help for the following article : Draft:Château de Jouy-en-Josas. It is a French castle and the article is a translation of the French one : fr:Château de Jouy (Jouy-en-Josas). Please do not hesitate to modify directly the article. Thanks a lot in advance. Kind Regards and have a nice day. 2A01:CB01:101C:5CF5:A402:D189:D2B4:C1AE (talk) 06:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

It has been declined because of sourcing problems. Also, there are way too many images. These may look nice, but per WP:NOTGALLERY there should not be multiple images just for the sake of it. Images should be integrated with the text.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:25, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

"Canal" is not the right word for that body of water. Maybe "lake" or "pond"? Maproom (talk) 07:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

One of the references is to a PDF, seemingly publicity material for a school. But the PDF is at some family's website. This is rather surprising. -- Hoary (talk) 12:22, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

I now realise that several of the images in the article are not genuine photographs, nor reproductions of paintings, but machine-generated. Those are works of fiction, and as such have no place in an encyclopedia. Maproom (talk) 14:37, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Wrong information given in article of religious violence in India

In it was written that Hindu activities start violence in India but the truth is that Hindu activities just motivate people to follow their religion and rituals. It is depicted wrong in article of religious violence in India. The truth is that Muslim activities, politician, priest motivate Muslims of India to increase their population and follow to Muslim Emperors' ideology of Gazwa-e-Hind means conversation of all Hindus to Muslim and capture the territory, wealth, etc. through violence. 2409:40D4:2008:3242:7E:69FF:FEB0:29F8 (talk) 08:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

If you have concerns about a particular article's content, you should raise those concerns on the article talk page(seems to be Talk:Religious violence in India). Articles summarize what independent reliable sources say about a topic. If those sources are not accurately summarized, please detail the specific errors. If the sources are accurately summarized, but in error themselves, you will need to raise that with the sources, or offer more current sources. Be aware that transferring a religious conflict to Wikipedia won't be tolerated. We all must work together. 331dot (talk) 08:29, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

I want my company to be added to wikipedia

We are seeking a skilled and experienced Wikipedia content writer to create a comprehensive and well-referenced Wikipedia page for our company, Gamateks. The ideal candidate will have a proven track record of writing and editing Wikipedia articles, a deep understanding of Wikipedia’s guidelines, and the ability to produce high-quality, neutral, and verifiable content. Korkutaydinli (talk) 13:11, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Read Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:19, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

I don't have time to do it myself I was looking for some one to do it for me Korkutaydinli (talk) 13:22, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Nobody is going to do anything unless it can be established that your company meets our notability criteria. READ IT. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:26, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

I have read it and I believe that it does meet your notability criteria Korkutaydinli (talk) 13:36, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm not seeing English-language sources that would attest to Gamateks' notability. You'll probably to find someone who can read Turkish. But please be aware that most people offering to create a Wikipedia article for payment are scammers. Maproom (talk) 14:22, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

There is some useful advice here Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Scam warning. Theroadislong (talk) 14:32, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

One option is to create a Draft article and source it according to Wikipedia standards then request that it be reviewed for inclusion in the encyclopedia. I think that is the best option for you. Now, you should ALSO be sure that editing Wikipedia about your company is consistent with your company's internet contributions policy; I at one time edited my own company's article here and elicited a chain of events that led to revisions to the company's contributions policy. Be careful with this; it can come back to bite you if you are not careful (or lucky or very valued at your firm). --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Reset password/assign email address to account using previous password?

Hello - it looks like my password was changed, and I don't remember changing it (but I probably did per Occam). Assuming I did it, my browser password manager either didn't save the password properly, or it went to the wrong account, and I've not been able to find the new one. I still have access to my old password, and I'm signed in on one specific computer, but I can't find a way to reset my password or bind an email address (I could have sworn this was tied to my old personal email, but I appear to have never set that up...).

I've only gotten back into editing recently as a way to keep my research skills sharp; I could just make a new account, but I'm a bit attached to this one since it's a chance to redeem some of my teenage idiocy from when I first made it back in the noughts.

Is there a way to attach an email address or to use my old password to set up a new one? Thanks! Fishsicles (talk) 13:23, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

@Fishsicles: There should be a section in your preferences called Preferences → User profile → Email options, which should have a button that allows you to change an email address; presumably it'd also allow you to add one. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:35, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

I'd already tried this; unfortunately it requires my current password. Fishsicles (talk) 13:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

@Fishsicles Try with the 'committed identity' method in here Help:Logging_in#What_if_I_forget_the_password if you still have access to the account. – robertsky (talk) 16:41, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you - I've set that up now, and I'll get in touch on that route once I have the time to figure out all the process (and are logged in to the right email accounts). Should probably set up a PGP key as well... Fishsicles (talk) 17:32, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Dollar sign in section header

In the article Jet Lag: The Game, the section header Season 10 reads "Au$tralia" but renders as "Au\$tralia" in the table of contents for me. Apparently this isn't universal (LouisOrr27 said it looked fine on their end), so I'm not exactly sure what can cause this sort of glitch to occur. Any help would be appreciated. Cerebral726 (talk) 13:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

@Cerebral726 It certainly looked like a $ to me, so I changed it. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:06, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

The intent is that it is supposed to be a "$". The problem is that it renders as "/$". So I guess I'm the only one who sees it as "/$" which is odd. Cerebral726 (talk) 14:12, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Why is it supposed to be a $? I would have thought that the name of the season would be the same as the name of the country it was set in. However, you are welcome to revert my edit if there is some reason it is intentional: it was added on 8 May in this edit by User:SnowyNix. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:19, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

The season is titled Au$tralia because it is a gambling themed season. Cerebral726 (talk) 14:27, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

OK, after your revert I see the TOC correctly in the current default WP:VECTOR22 skin. Which skin are you using? Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:32, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm using the Vector Legacy (2010) skin. Swapped to Vector22 and it looks fine in the sidebar TOC, swapped back to Vector2010, looks wrong in the box TOC. Cerebral726 (talk) 14:39, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

It's an issue with the Vector Legacy (2010) skin, I use Vector 2022 and it is fine but when I switched to Legacy (2010) it appeared as "/$". LouisOrr27 (talk) 14:44, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Someone's already written a bug report: phab:T365413. Rummskartoffel 15:23, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks for the link. Cerebral726 (talk) 15:34, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

New Zealand Law Society

•  Courtesy link: New Zealand Law Society

Their are a number of other wikipedia.org web pages too that need to be included I'm asking that you check what I say is true first - Their are no gift cards sold in New Zealand for the purpose of presenting identity and lawyers registration with the government enables them to witness identity of New Zealand citizens passports for over sea's banks to use. I'm asking that be included on relevant web pages please some how by the correct person to do that. 115.189.135.164 (talk) 15:30, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello there IP! If you think that a page needs something added, but don't want to do it yourself, try posting it on the talk page for that article. Sage or something (talk) 15:37, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi IP editor. I am afraid I do not understand the question - could you try re-phrasing it? Qcne (talk) 15:37, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

It sounds as if you are trying to add a "How to" item, or perhaps a "righting wrongs" item to Wikipedia articles. However virtuous or useful the information may be, that is not what Wikipedia is for.

If you can find a reliable independent source discussing the issue - not just giving advice, but discussing why this is an issue - discuss this on the article's talk page and get consensus to add the information to the article. ColinFine (talk) 17:06, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Threatening me

Hi, a user has threatened to ban me due to an edit war, however he broke the rules he said to me and is refusing to talk to me properly and is only giving me links, but the links are only reiterating that you need to discuss and he is not discussing with me at all. This genuinely worries me because I don't want him to use his power to ban me and I feel it is unjust at the same time. What can I do? Because the way he is threatening me with a ban feels discriminatory because he has a higher position on the Wikipedia ladder. I'm autistic and have fun editing a lot. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 23:25, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

You and 98Tigerius should discuss this on Talk:2024 FIVB Volleyball Women's Nations League (rather than on your user talk page) and attempt to reach agreement. Other editors may or may not join the discussion. (Incidentally, 98Tigerius has mentioned the possibility of a block. You have talked about a ban. A block isn't a ban: if you're interested, see the third paragraph of Wikipedia:Banning policy. 98Tigerius cannot either block you or ban you; you cannot either block 98Tigerius or ban them.) Meanwhile, it's good to hear that you enjoy editing Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 02:33, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

ILoveSport2006, nearly 15 years ago when I was a new editor, a more experienced editor warned me about edit warring, and ever since, I have been very careful to avoid edit warring. So, my advice to you is to be very careful to avoid edit warring. Also, article talk pages are the best places by far to discuss article content. Help: Edit summary says that edit summaries are for a brief explanation of an edit and that edit summaries are not for explaining every detail, writing essays about "the truth", or long-winded arguments with fellow editors. Please follow that advice. Cullen328 (talk) 04:55, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for replying, I appreciate it. However, one of the main problems I have had is that he is not responding to me properly. Personally, I wouldn't even call it a conversation since he is only responding in already made words. He called my table unnecessary and irrelevant and when I replied saying I thought it was rude, I got nothing back, only auto generated links. He hasn't explained why he doesn't think the table isn't useful at all, just links. I think he is trying to scare me away with these links and it bothers me because I have never encountered someone like this. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 11:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

ILoveSport2006, no one is trying to scare you away. We all value productive colleagues. Sometimes when an argument has already been made and a decision reached, we'll just point people at the conversation or guideline rather than rehashing the whole thing.

If you've read through all the pages you've been given links to, and still have questions about why they might apply to your particular situation, then you'll be able to ask the kind of informed questions that are more likely to elicit a thought out response. If it seems like you're not reading and understanding the information you've been given, then why would the other person choose to invest their time in explaining things you could have learnt by reading the pages they've already pointed you towards? Folly Mox (talk) 11:52, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

No decision has been reached over the table. That's false. He called the table unnecessary and irrelevant and I am taking offence because it is not constructive criticism and I think differently. So people on Wikipedia did not point him to this conversation, he chose to make an unconstructive comment with no evidence and no decision was reached. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 14:01, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Have you read through those links? – robertsky (talk) 14:24, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Is anyone listening to me? He IS NOT discussing with me. Plus he is not following WP:BRD nor WP:STATUSQUO, which both talks about dialogue and getting a better understanding of why it was reverted, and I am trying to follow these rules, but HE isn't. He deleted my table with no constructive dialogue and has not told how the table could be improved. He BROKE the WP:3RR rule, I didn't. Why are you not telling him he broke the rules. @Folly Mox @Robertsky, I could be wrong, but both your comments both come across as if I am in the wrong. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 14:44, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

@Hoary I brought back the table but added a Disputed Inclusion tag. Is this okay? ILoveSport2006 (talk) 14:58, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Might be worth taking it to WT:VBALL, but I'm pretty sure Round by Round tables like this are deprecated. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:37, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Nope. Just trying to get a baseline of your understanding of the WP:MOS. But if you are already clear about the MOS, then it is just right to clarify which part of the MOS you are not in line with.

As for WP:BRD, if this was the first edit Special:Diff/1224836970 that was being reverted, the onus is on you to open the discussion with the editor who reverted your edit and not restoring the content in the reverted edit until a discussion is concluded or there is no response to the discussion for a while. You tried with a response on your talk page. However, there is no evidence that they saw the message unfortunately, not especially if they had just been dropping messages via a semi automated tool. (I don't use that tool, so I am not sure if they had the settings to add your talk page to the watch list or had that settings enabled. And if one is a frequent vandalism patroller, one's watchlist can be overwhelmingly large to the point that your reply to your talk page may have not been noticed by them.) At the very least, pinging them in your message on your talk page via {{re}} or similar template/mechanism would have notified them.

What I am seeing here is likely that some messages are not being crossed on the same frequency on both sides, and from now on, nudge the other party to engage with you on the article's talk page. They have been pinged here earlier, but unsure if they are aware of the message you place on the article's talk page. To be certain, drop a friendly message on their talk page to remind them to check the article's talk page. Messages on their talk page are typically should not be missed. – robertsky (talk) 15:39, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

@Robertsky I understand your point, it is only because in the past, I have tried to be civil with people in the past and they would say rude comments like I don't really care about that concerning a Floorball article and another account made a personal attack on me. So that's why I get touchy with asking people about things relating to disputes on article, because at times, I have had comments that have been borderline nasty. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 21:44, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

ILoveSport2006, I'm sorry I made you feel like I thought you were in the wrong. I'm actually almost entirely ignorant of style guidelines regarding sport articles. I just wanted to try to reassure you that no one is trying to drive you away or threatening to block your account. The words you opened this thread with seemed to indicate an unfamiliarity with the standard user warning templates and I was just trying to explain what might be going on in a way that would help you feel less attacked. My apologies if that backfired. Folly Mox (talk) 18:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

It's fine.

Although can I ask, I put a dispute tag on the table and asked for opinions regarding the table on the talk page, and 98Tigerius just deleted the table again without me even getting other people's opinions on the table. He has reverted 4 times. Was adding the dispute tag above the table a reasonable idea and was he wrong to delete the table without me even getting other people's opinions? I am just wondering. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 21:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Hoary, Cullen328, Folly Mox, Robertsky, and Lee Vilenski for explaining things to ILoveSport2006. We discussed it on the talk page but it's not going anywhere as there's no other pov involve. I already reach out to related WikiProjects so active members can join but see ILoveSport2006's reply here and here. Why the user already has a final say on a dispute that haven't resolve yet? 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 14:20, 23 May 2024 (UTC)