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The result of the debate was delete. --Aude (talk) 21:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Harmony Airways (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Looks like an attempt to implement the contents of Template:Infobox Airline for Harmony Airways. Not used on the airline's article. — Hawaiian717 23:57, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was No consensus, defaulting to keep. ^demon[omg plz] 06:33, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Three other uses (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Very redundant: "three other uses" means high time for the disambiguation page instead of littering the valuable space on top of the article. — `'mikka 21:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • See also would have been more appropriate than see for the historical entity. The article Quebec does have some coverage of that period, but does not cover any areas outside Quebec's current boundaries which were added by the Quebec Act in 1774. The article Quebec covers facts about the historical entity, but only where they are relevant to present-day Quebec. A person interested solely in the history of Ohio or Illinois might well be interested in Province of Quebec (1763-1791) in a completely different perspective, and they need to be told that that perspective is not covered in the article Quebec. What we are dealing with here is a subject that coincides partially with that of Quebec, but not completely. You say that disambiguation is only for totally different topics. Editors should have the flexibility to tell readers what the division is between articles, and this division will sometimes involve subjects that are closely related but not identical. Also, Quebec City is a completely different meaning of Quebec, though Quebec City is not in a different region. Joeldl 20:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC) To respond to the suggestion about Canada as a part of New France, the history of that region is entirely subsumed by the history of what is now Canada. The same is not true of Quebec from 1774 to the American War of Independence. Joeldl 01:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is interesting that the same situation does not apply for other terms that refer to older parts of Quebec, such as New France, Lower Canada, and Canada East. Not only because their names do not include the word 'Quebec', but I think also because regions are expected to shift borders and change names. Province of Quebec is only one of them, and yet here it looks like its part of the history is made more important than all the other parts. To me, it is sort of like linking History of X at the top of article X, which also coincide partially. I admit this analogy is not accurate, and I'm unlikely to pursue the argument with much force. If this is the right idea, Northwest Territories should have a dablink to North-Western Territory.
The Province of Quebec has either been neglected, or is not very important to note: None of the articles Ohio, Illinois, History of Ohio, or History of Illinois mention the name Quebec at all, only that they were occupied by the French. If a person is interested in those histories, how can they tell to search for Quebec? (I don't know it well enough to insert content.) As another example, Oklahoma Territory has no mention of Oklahoma even though the Territory consists of a subsection of the present state (History of Oklahoma makes only a brief mention). If you'd like, let's take this discussion elsewhere, say Talk:Quebec. –Pomte 02:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete If an article has this template on it, then there are at least four meanings for the term, and users should just be directed to a disambig page. Tompw (talk) 11:32, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • The problem arises when the other meanings are closely related to the one in the article, so the reader may think they're already on the right page and not bother looking at the disambiguation page. Joeldl 11:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, at least for now. Given the large number (looks like about two dozen) of pages which refer to this template, there is signficant work in cleaning up each one, and deleting the template (or even just proposing it, which clutters up those pages) is an awkward way to go about this. That Quebec needs this template seems relatively convincing to me, although most of the other uses seem to be better solved other ways. Deleting the template may also encourage authors to just do without templates, whereas keeping the template with documentation saying "here's why this is probably a bad idea" provides a way to promote best practices. Kingdon 15:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete not because of the nominated reason of redundancy but because it over-complexifies what is essentially indented and italicized text Cburnett 02:57, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment: It's indented and italicized now, but what if we want to change that in the future? What if someone's printing a bound edition of Wikipedia and wants to automatically insert page numbers? What if a blind person wants their text-to-speech engine to read it differently? Maybe those aren't great examples, but it's always a good idea to separate semantic content ("disambiguation links") from concrete formatting ("indented and italicized"). —Keenan Pepper 23:34, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, the resulting link is too long and would be better listed on a disambiguation page. AEMoreira042281 16:21, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep most of the objections are style-related. Style questions are up to each editor's discretion. Nardman1 00:56, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have to note that this is incorrect. We have style guidelines that are decided by consensus, and this can be resolved the same way. Superm401 - Talk 11:53, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, as the resulting three links are too long and would be better covered by a link to a disambiguation page. C0N6R355 12:22, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, This template is cretainly useful in articles such as the Troll article. Many words have other two other meaning similar but not the same to each other and the timplate in question is very helpful with those. Af648 04:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete More than two alternate meanings means it should have a dabpage. We have enough dablink excesses as it is. The idea that reducing two dozen instances of usage would be overly taxing on editors seems mildly ridiculous. If anything, it would be just as easy to (God forbid) simply use plain text. Peter Isotalo 11:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Links to three other pages at the top of an article is clutter. At this point it is best to just link to the disambiguation page. Sjakkalle (Check!) 12:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Link to disambig is by far enough. --Tone 21:09, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. WoohookittyWoohoo! 07:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:No-swear-words (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This seems like a completely unnecessary userbox, as only one editor links to it. AniMate 19:58, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Delete ^demon[omg plz] 06:35, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Universities in Scotland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Duplicate of {{Scottish Universities}}. Kanaye 16:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Previous TfD including both templates: February 17, 2007 (Universities in the United Kingdom navigational templates) (no consensus)
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The result of the discussion was Delete ^demon[omg plz] 06:33, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Tagwar (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This is an unecessarily antangonistic template given its wording. Talk pages are to be used instead of such tags. The only qualification for keeping this would be for usage on Wikipedia:Humor pages. I would go so far as to say that this tag should be speedy deleted per WP:CSD#T1. (Netscott) 15:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)}[reply]

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The result of the debate was Delete ^demon[omg plz] 05:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Ttnw (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete for two reasons:

  • Template is not used. (What links here)
  • Template is marked by author: Don't use this!.

Author has been notified. — Kevinkor2 01:46, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Speedy Delete, CSD G6. ^demon[omg plz] 22:27, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox North East England place (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Orphaned infobox, superceded by the UK place infobox. Falls into one of several former infoboxes set to be deleted once conversion was complete (see here) — Jhamez84 00:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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