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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template(s) or module(s) below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:16, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Infobox former subdivision with Template:Infobox settlement.
A former settlement just has a couple extra parameters that a current settlement doesn't have. No need to have them as separate templates, per this discussion. PK2 (talk) 06:08, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

per Uanfala, merging would take a large amount of work compared to the benefit of having one fewer template. The combined template would be gigantic. — hike395 (talk) 22:23, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The numbers alone are misleading; there are a great deal of reundant parameters, with synonymous names (for example |leader_name1=/|leader1=; |leader_name2=/|leader2= etc.). A comparison table is at Template:Infobox former subdivision/Parameters. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:25, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Testcases
Testcase 1
{{Infobox settlement}}{{Infobox former subdivision}}
name
native_name
other_name
settlement_type
official_name
translit_lang1 transcription(s)
 • translit_lang1_typetranslit_lang1_info
 • translit_lang1_type1translit_lang1_info1
 • translit_lang1_type2translit_lang1_info2
translit_lang2 transcription(s)
 • translit_lang2_typetranslit_lang2_info
 • translit_lang2_type1translit_lang2_info1
 • translit_lang2_type2translit_lang2_info2
image_alt
image_caption
Etymology: etymology
Nickname: 
nickname
Motto: 
motto
Anthem: anthem
map_alt
map_caption
map_alt1
map_caption1
Countrysubdivision_name
subdivision_type1subdivision_name1
subdivision_type2subdivision_name2
established_titleestablished_date
established_title1established_date1
established_title2established_date2
established_title3established_date3
established_title4established_date4
established_title5established_date5
established_title6established_date6
established_title7established_date7
extinct_titleextinct_date
Founded byfounder
Named fornamed_for
seat_typeseat
seat1_typeseat1
parts_type
parts
  • p1
  • p2
Government
g_fn
 • Typegovernment_type
 • Bodygoverning_body
 • leader_titleleader_name (leader_party)
 • leader_title1leader_name1
Area
a_fn
 • total_type1 km2 (0.4 sq mi)
 • Land1 km2 (0.4 sq mi)
 • Water1 km2 (0.4 sq mi)  area_water_percent%
 • Urban
a_u_fn
1 km2 (0.4 sq mi)
 • Rural
a_r_f
1 km2 (0.4 sq mi)
 • Metro
a_m_f
1 km2 (0.4 sq mi)
 • Rankarea_rank
 • area_blank1_title1 km2 (0.4 sq mi)
 • area_blank2_title1 km2 (0.4 sq mi)
 area_note
Dimensions
d_f
 • Length1 km (0.6 mi)
Elevation
e_f (elevation_point)
1 m (3 ft)
Highest elevation
e_max_f (elevation_max_point)
1 m (3 ft)
 • Rankelevation_max_rank
Lowest elevation
e_min_f (elevation_min_point)
1 m (3 ft)
 • Rankelevation_min_rank
Population
 (population_as_of)p_f
 • total_typepopulation_total
 • Estimate 
(pop_est_as_of)p_e_f
population_est
 • Rankpopulation_rank
 • Density1/km2 (3/sq mi)
  • Rankpopulation_density_rank
 • Urban
p_u_f
population_urban
 • Urban density1/km2 (3/sq mi)
 • Rural
p_r_f
population_rural
 • Rural density2/km2 (5/sq mi)
 • Metro
p_m_f
population_metro
 • Metro density1/km2 (3/sq mi)
 • population_blank1_title
population_blank1
 • population_blank1_title density1/km2 (3/sq mi)
 • population_blank2_title
population_blank2
 • population_blank2_title density1/km2 (3/sq mi)
 population_note
Demonympopulation_demonym
demographics_type1
d1_f
 • demographics1_title1demographics1_info1
demographics_type2
d2_f
 • demographics2_title1demographics2_info1
Time zones
timezone1_locationUTCutc_offset1 (timezone1)
 • Summer (DST)UTCutc_offset1_DST (timezone1_DST)
timezone2_locationUTCutc_offset2 (timezone2)
 • Summer (DST)UTCutc_offset2_DST (timezone2_DST)
timezone3_locationUTCutc_offset3 (timezone3)
 • Summer (DST)UTCutc_offset3_DST (timezone3_DST)
timezone4_locationUTCutc_offset4 (timezone4)
 • Summer (DST)UTCutc_offset4_DST (timezone4_DST)
timezone5_locationUTCutc_offset5 (timezone5)
 • Summer (DST)UTCutc_offset5_DST (timezone5_DST)
postal_code_type
postal_code
postal2_code_type
postal2_code
area_code_typearea_code
Geocodegeocode
ISO 3166 codeiso_code
registration_plate_typeregistration_plate
code1_namecode1_info
code2_namecode2_info
blank_name_sec1blank_info_sec1
blank1_name_sec1blank1_info_sec1
blank2_name_sec1blank2_info_sec1
blank_name_sec2blank_info_sec2
blank1_name_sec2blank1_info_sec2
blank2_name_sec2blank2_info_sec2
Websitewebsite
module
footnotes
native_name
Country
flag_alt
Flag

map_caption
Anthem
anthem
Government
 • Typegovernment_type
 • Mottomotto
Preceded by
p1
p2
footnotes
Testcase 2
{{Infobox former subdivision}}{{Infobox settlement}}
conventional_long_name
native_name
status_text
life_span

image_map_caption
Anthem
anthem
Capitalcapital
Demonymdemonym
Area 
Area transferred
 • area_gained_year1area_gained1 from gained_from1
 • area_lost_year1area_lost1 to lost_to1
• stat_year1
[convert: invalid number]
Population 
• stat_year1
stat_pop1
StatusStatus
CodeNameCode
GovernmentGovernment
 • Typegovernment_type
 • HQHQ
 • Mottomotto
title_leader 
• year_leader1
leader1
title_deputy 
• year_deputy1
deputy1
Arms
arms_caption
Civic
civic_caption
Legislaturelegislature
• type_house1
house1
• type_house2
house2
Historical eraera
• event_pre
date_pre
• event_start
date_start year_start
• event1
date_event1
• event2
date_event2
• event3
date_event3
• event4
date_event4
• event5
date_event5
• event_end
date_end year_end
• event_post
date_post
Contained within
 • membership_title1membership1
 • membership_title2membership2
 • membership_title3membership3
 • membership_title4membership4
 • membership_title5membership5
Subdivisions
 • TypeDivisions
 • UnitsDivisionsNames
Missing map.svg
divisions_map_caption
Political subdivisionspolitical_subdiv
Preceded by
Succeeded by
p1
s1
Today part oftoday
footnotes
Templates for discussion/Log/2021 September 4
native_name
Motto: 
motto
Anthem: anthem
Location of Templates for discussion/Log/2021 September 4
Boroughs
List
  • p1
Government
 • Typegovernment_type
footnotes
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 September 13. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:17, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:18, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused after I merged the table into the Statewide opinion polling for the 2016 Democratic Party presidential primaries article. Was the only one created as a separate template. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:18, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 04:44, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 September 13. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:18, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 September 13. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:18, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by Materialscientist (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 15:13, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if this is really necessary to take to TfD, but better safe than sorry. Page was created blank but seemingly meant as a redirect to {{Infobox military installation}}, but it doesn't make sense there as it's from a foreign language not particularly associated with the concept of a military installation (so fails WP:RFOREIGN). Would've taken to RfD if this was actually a redirect, but feels wrong to edit a page only to be able nominate it for deletion via a different venue. Elli (talk | contribs) 03:11, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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