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84.100.121.194 (talk) 23:47, 24 July 2018 (UTC) I undeserved but I can use IMD for source ?

For what ? - FlightTime (open channel) 23:48, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

RFPP

@Yamla and C.Fred: My watchlist shows you're currently active, Would one of you consider actioning this request for Brad Dourif IP hopping troll keeps removing content without references or explaination. Thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 19:23, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Will do immediately. --Yamla (talk) 19:36, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you :) - FlightTime (open channel) 19:41, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

A message from Rightinforead

Dear FlightTime,

Thank you for your message. I am a student studying at St. Martinus University. It seems that people from other school are targeting our University and hurting the image to recruit students. Our parents get worried when they see negative things about the school when we know that the school is doing well, our graduates are scoring really high in the licensing exams in USA and becoming practicing physicians. Is there a way to report those users or IP addresses to Wikipedia so they don't do it again? Some editor(s) has made our page semi-protected so that people just can't put stuff on it and I thank you for that.

Any suggestion from your side would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Rightinforead (talk) 19:44, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

@Rightinforead: Well, the best I can do is add the page to my watchlist. There is also this discussion about that page, I'm sure those editors are also watching the page. - FlightTime (open channel) 20:00, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

OTRS

Many thanks for your message. I don't want to make mistakes: as someone who has been editing for quite a few years but only occasionally, in short bursts, it has been hard to keep up with the ever-changing protocols for adding images. I'm grateful for any assistance you can offer as basically all I do is follow by rote the last advice I was given by those more experienced. AnOpenMedium (talk) 10:15, 27 July 2018 (UTC) AnOpenMedium (talk) 10:15, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Royal Orleans

I’m off to bed in a mo; I have tried to explain policy to the IP but if he sticks his fingers in his ears, feel free to go to ANEW. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:55, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

July

Hi @FlightTime:, please check my edit again. I alphabetized the Categories on Steven Tyler's page. That is all. I added no biographical content or references to the article.

Please leave your message on the page of the person who is actually responsible for the edits you incorrectly attributed to me. --Serenesage (talk) 22:06, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Seriously...

This discussion/section is closed per WP:DENY

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Removing an occupation is not a threat, let users remove and add what they want. You don't own the articles you know. Please, stop making such a big deal out of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1000:B032:1799:904C:81BC:6900:EA14 (talk) 19:37, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes, Seriously. I didn't asy "threat". Unless you have reliable sources saying those are not his professions, then leave it alone. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:42, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Your the one that needs to leave users alone, let them add and remove what they want. No need for you to threaten them with block messages just because of one small edit they added or removed, I mean come on. 2600:1000:B032:1799:E9D0:D6FA:D441:3C41 (talk) 19:56, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

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A message from Launchballer re: Little Richard

From Little Richard#Later years (2000-present): "On September 6, 2017, Richard participated in a long television interview, for the Christian Three Angels Broadcasting Network, dressed conservatively and unrecognizable from his stage personae." Launchballer 17:20, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

@Launchballer: NP, thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 17:25, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

A message from 108.160.25.254

The reference regarding Little Richard influencing Malcolm's playing is derived from a reputable source - and an interview with Malcolm himself. It was very significant information. What do you have against Little Richard to deny him of such recognition? 108.160.25.254 (talk) 17:23, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

No, but you need to cite a reliable source. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:28, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Will Arnett

Um hey, again. Just so you know I just looked on his IMDb page and it actually does say he is also a prouder, 10 credits as a producer it says. Even though it's protected, I'm really sorry about the misunderstanding... 2600:1000:B039:2667:8930:333D:163A:5995 (talk) 21:11, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Facepalm. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:12, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

No problem :) - FlightTime (open channel) 21:14, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

P.S. Thanks, and I'm also really sorry for what I said to your before as well. 2600:1000:B039:2667:8930:333D:163A:5995 (talk) 21:23, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

New York City Education

If i add some sources(arwu link and list of universities in new york, which shows they number, which is bigger than london , LA etc.), can i go back with my changes? Please tell me if in these changes were language mistakes, because I'm not native english speaker. Szymioza (talk) 22:17, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

@Szymioza: You did not cite any reliable third party sources to support your claim, see Help:Referencing for beginners. Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 22:21, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

I will try later with more reliable sources. Thanks for advises! :) Szymioza (talk) 22:28, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Can a source be a wikipedia's article, which has third party sources? Szymioza (talk) 22:41, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

@Szymioza: No, Wikipedia does not cite itself. - FlightTime (open channel) 20:03, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Will the change "Over 600,000 students are enrolled in New York City's over 120 higher education institutions, the highest number of any city in the United States and higher than major global cities like London or Tokyo, including over half million in the City University of New York (CUNY) system alone in 2014." be okay for now? Szymioza (talk) 23:38, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

References

@Szymioza: You need to bring these type of questions up on the article's talk page I'm not that familiar with the article subject. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:44, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

I will try to change it, if it wouldnt be ok they will change it back. Thanks Szymioza (talk) 00:11, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Motörhead

The source has already been quoted.

"Their sound was a raw hard rock brew peppered with punk aggression."

References

Please seek consensus first. - FlightTime (open channel)

User talk:Strand

Hi. Can I suggest that it might be better for you to leave it now - I'm happy to engage with him about my actions myself. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:25, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

@Boing! said Zebedee: I am not defending your comments, I'm giving that SPA my opinion. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:27, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I realise that, and I thank you for your input - I'm just not sure it's helpful to have multiple people responding to him at the moment. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:29, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

 Done - FlightTime (open channel) 17:34, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

A message from Xaypay

Lil Peep's music videos were listed, why were they deleted from his page? How did they break a rule? Xaypay (talk) 00:25, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

@Xaypay: You did not provide a reliable source that supports you edit and you did not leave an edit summary explaining the addition. - FlightTime (open channel) 00:28, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

A message from Blewit

Blewit (talk) 02:55, 26 August 2018 (UTC) Dozens of American composers have won a Pulitzer Prize in Music before George T. Walker (See Wikipedia Article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulitzer_Prize_for_Music#Winners). He was the first AFRICAN American to win, followed by Wynton Marsalis' controversial win the next year. By omitting the word "African", the statement is factually incorrect. Please change it back. Thank you. You may also refer to this obituary: http://www.iowapublicradio.org/post/george-walker-trailblazing-american-composer-dies-96#stream/0

@Blewit: I'm not saying your edit is incorrect, you're changing American to African American that requires a source to support that claim. The reference needs to be with you edit, not here. - FlightTime (open channel) 03:04, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		This is for your valuable efforts for reverting and protecting enwiki from Vandalism PATH SLOPU (Talk) 07:58, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

@Path slopu: Thank you :) - FlightTime (open channel) 12:04, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

A message from Monstarules

Hi FlightTime. I feel as if my warning was given in error, as the warning was given for "unsourced or poorly sourced defamatory content" on David Hogg's talk page. I didn't post any unsourced suggestions for additions to the page, and the only "poor" source was noted as such, and I only wanted to reference the tweets that were stored on it. If you look at it closely, as well as the comments I made, I didn't say anything biased or opinionated, I was purely pointing out things that he has said. The only thing considered "opinionated" was the article regarding a fellow activist from the Parkland high school.

We're supposed to be an informative website, right? Pointing out the important events, good and bad, is extremely important. Monstarules (talk) 17:06, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

@Monstarules: Sorry you feel that way, but you did violate the BLP guidelines. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:09, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I did...But did I really? I've yet to see where exactly. Let's look at the sources I posted, for a start. The 1st source is an opinion not of my own, but regarding a fellow student from Parkland, hosted on a website that is not only politically neutral, but actually tries to stick to the facts. It's relevant because the student, Kyle Kashuv, has been trying to talk to many of the other activists, especially David Hogg, and has been outright refused when he requested a debate. That's a fact that has been mentioned in the news before too. The 2nd source may have been Louder with Crowder's website, but it showcased a very relevant tweet that David Hogg made, and compared it with a Tweet (from Kyle Kashuv) that showcased a much more accurate statistic (checked the data myself, ran the calcs, etc, checked statistics as well) and in the Tweet's comments, David Hogg admits that he didn't separate the information in the bar graph which is a textbook biased graph. I've seen us use sources like that before due to relevant data on the page. The 3rd source was Snopes, and it includes an accurate transcript of audio from an interview regarding the "clear backpacks" issue at Parkland. David Hogg claims that his 1st Ammendment was violated, but the 1st Ammendment pertains to freedom of speech, religion, the right to peacefully congregate and protest, and has nothing to do with school dress codes (which allow for religious exemptions). The fourth source is an article in regards to a controversial action by Publix, and the controversial response of David Hogg, which has stopped Publix from donating to anyone or anything for the time being. It was published by a reputable local Florida newspaper, and contains a lot of information including the response of Publix as well as David Hogg's initial response. The 5th and final source I mentioned was a videotaped interview, where he made several unfounded comments against people he considered to be incompetent. None of that is opinionated, and that's all fact.Monstarules (talk) 17:31, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes you did. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:32, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

AC/DC

What do you mean by being in the project. I am in it, aren’t I? ~SML • TP 21:29, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Well if you're not you should discuss before removing a project label is all I'm saying. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:31, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

I am in WP:METAL. But it’ll be better for me to keep it because I don’t really like the band.. so bye I guess. 21:35, 26 August 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sixty Minute Limit (talk • contribs)

Sixty Minute Limit, Flight Time - There's no requirement of being in a WikiProject to remove a WikiProject tag on the talk page, and per WP:BOLD, there isn't really even a requirement to discuss before removing it either, as long as they stop at the first revert, which SML did. That being said, I can see Flight Time's good-faith concern about the removal as well - the opening sentences of the article mention that they have a controversial connection to the genre, and metal comes up like 15+ times for various reasons over the course of an article. I would think that would be enough to at least be tied to the WikiProject in some capacity. They're tied to the metal world, even if they're not usually considered a metal band overall, and that would generally be good enough when it comes to something like WikiProject tags. Sergecross73 msg me 12:39, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

@Sergecross73: There's no requirement of being in a WikiProject to remove a WikiProject tag on the talk page, Well in my opinion there should be. It seems logical that project members should be the only ones adding, removing project tags rating articles ect... casual editors (and most experienced ones) have no idea what the banners and ratings are about, but that's just my opinion and thank you for taking the time to post an explanation, it's appreciated. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 12:54, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

A message from GinsuVictim

@FlightTime: About the Metallica "And Justice for All" release date...

Aside from Metallica.com listing September 5th, 1988 as the release date, here are two vintage posters advertising the release date https://tshirtslayer.com/other-collectable/metallica-and-justice-all-poster https://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=527791

These sources come directly from the band in the form of their own website and promotional materials.

Thank you.

GinsuVictim (talk) 19:51, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

@GinsuVictim: I am aware, however there is a discussion on the talk page asking which source are we going to use. I think that discussion should run its course before we change the article, consensus would be best. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:56, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

RE:National varieties

Thanks, that happened to be one of the regional differences I didn't know about. ToThAc (talk) 02:25, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

@ToThAc: You're welcome :) - FlightTime (open channel) 17:50, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

A message from 2605:E000:90CB:6500:C1B1:6CBB:1121:8D6B

I don't understand why my change was undone. It was a correction. California Dreamin' was not the #1 song of 1966 on Billboard. It was #10. Confirmed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_1966

2605:E000:90CB:6500:C1B1:6CBB:1121:8D6B (talk) 17:48, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Because it was unsourced. Wikipedia does not cite itself. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:50, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

A message from Sarkarankur

How to add a website link and also a new citation no. in the REFLIST. i will try to fix my mistake Sarkarankur Sarkarankur (talk) 13:39, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

@Sarkarankur: I do not understand your question/issue. Sorry, - FlightTime (open channel) 13:44, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I am sorry for editing an article titled Hakim Khan Suri without proper references or website links.

How to add a website link and also a new citation no. in the REFLIST. i will try to fix my mistake Sarkarankur (talk) 13:51, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

@Sarkarankur: Please see Wikipedia:External links and {{Reflist}} Hope this helps. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 13:57, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for watching the Sexual intercourse article. Regarding Sharif Uddin, he is likely to revert me on this, but his addition disrupts the template. And the sexual intercourse listing clearly is not needed there. The Human sexual activity (behavior) article is obviously more fitting since it is specifically about human sexual behavior. It also obviously broaches the topic of sexual intercourse. So if you don't mind keeping a lookout for Sharif Uddin on that likely revert, please do. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:22, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

@Flyer22 Reborn: Not a problem, I'll keep an eye :P Thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 17:37, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

A message from Indubitably58

Indubitably58 (talk) 01:52, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

How is it a personal attack? He keeps reverting my edits. All I’m trying to do is keep Australian football players up to date but people like him constantly hounding us down makes it impossible and frankly not worthwhile. I take time out of my day in order make the contributions and edits and I’d love to keep doing it but if everyone time I do it it just gets reverted back then I don’t see the point.

@Indubitably58: Calling someone a "dickhead" is a personal attack, period. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:57, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Don’t be so pedantic dude. I wonder why he has so many complaints left on his page? Cause he can come off as a dickhead. Just cop it and don’t complain about “personal attacks” — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indubitably58 (talk • contribs) 02:04, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

A message from Tetizeraz

Hi FlightTime, just a question, which template is better in this case? You see, a fire has started on National Museum of Brazil. I only have that source in Portuguese at the moment. User:Tetizeraz. Send me a ✉️ ! 00:17, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

@Tetizeraz: No special template is needed, just add the incoming information, well sourced as it comes in. - FlightTime (open channel) 00:19, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Will do FlightTime. Thanks for stepping in! User:Tetizeraz. Send me a ✉️ ! 00:31, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

A message from Tyreemondesir

Tyreemondesir (talk) 15:56, 8 September 2018 (UTC)To whom it may concern I'm very sorry for editing the page without permission and never happen again.

A message from Whippdog

FlightTime, I recently changed the photo for singer/guitarist Miles Kennedy. It was quickly reverted back. My reasoning for the photo change was that the old photo was a picture of his face, while the new one was a photo of him singing with his guitar, better reflecting him as a musician. I did not submit any sources for this change, as no sources are needed. the photo is my own work, and was submitted via wiki commons. Let me know if you have any questions!

@FlightTime: Whippdog (talk) 23:19, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

@Whippdog: Please voice your concerns on the article talk page. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:21, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

CSD template on an image

hi there, not sure why you would remove the CSD template here Just wanted to make sure that it was a mistake. cheers.--DBigXrayᗙ 22:24, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

• I replaced the tempate that you removed and the image has now been deleted. in future, if you want to remove the CSD templates, please do check with the editor who placed it on the reason for the CSD template, if it is not obvious to you in the first place. --DBigXrayᗙ 22:24, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Rush

You may want to see this before reverting me. An anonymous user deleted with no reason, presumably because the person doesn’t believe in the existence of light metal. ~SML • TP 00:25, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

@Sixty Minute Limit: If you would of explained this in an edit summary, we wouldn't be here. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:18, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I know, I was planning to in my head (planing what I was going to write) but I accedently hit the “Publish changes” button instead of the edit summary. ~SML • TP 01:21, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Could you show me a guideline that says I need to put and edit summary when exercising guidelines. You obviously know about WP:OVERLINKING, so reverting is unhelpful. ~SML • TP 00:13, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

@Sixty Minute Limit: It doesn't matter what anyone knows, it's common courtesy to let fellow editors know what the fuck you're doing. Is this asking too much ? - FlightTime (open channel) 00:17, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Diary of a Madman

Hello. I wanted to let you know that in your recent contributions to Diary of a Madman (album), you seemed to act as if you were the owner of the page. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. This means that editors do not own articles, including ones they create, and should respect the work of their fellow contributors. If you create or edit an article, remember that others are free to change its content. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. SolarFlash (talk) 21:58, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

@SolarFlash: Oh, yes I'm new around here and your experiance is mindblowing. You might want to review WP:3RR. - FlightTime (open channel) 22:06, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

My "experiance is mindblowing"? You might want to review WP:NPA. SolarFlash (talk) 22:20, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Personal attack ? really ? Well you enjoy Wikipedia and happy editing. - FlightTime (open channel) 22:25, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

I'm trying to enjoy Wikipedia, but... sometimes it's easier said than done. Happy editing to you as well. SolarFlash (talk) 23:24, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

A message from Martha.Savage

Hi, I already declared my conflict of interest. And it was evaluated. Martha.Savage (talk) 22:10, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 22:34, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Where was this declaration made, Martha? --Orange Mike | Talk 23:31, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Re: Editorial changes to Medal of Honor - see the talk page section on Samuel Adler

Hello FlightTime: Just a quick thanks for your help on the talk page for the article Medal of Honor - Just a quick request --- If you have some time kindly take a look at the Talk:Medal of Honor section of the article Medal of Honor (See the Samuel Adler section on the talk page). Apparently a question has arisen as to the quality and/or suitability of references which have been cited to support the inclusion of the German/American composer Samuel Adler (composer) as a recipient of an unusual Medal of Honor for services to Music (as opposed to combat services) as directed by General Dweight D. Eisenhower circa 1953 in post World War II Germany. Perhaps as an experienced Master Editor III you might be able to share your expertise in the discussion in order to determine whether the references which have been cited are suitable to support the reference to Adler in the article. Many thanks in advance for your kind assistance and as always best wishes for your continued success on Wikipedia. Repsectfully, 104.207.219.150 (talk) 16:50, 18 September 2018 (UTC)PS @FlightTime:

No thanks, I'll let editors with more knowledge on the subject discuss the issue. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 17:03, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

The anon

In view of the anon's threats to just use another IP address, I'm of a mind to protect any pages that s/he might be thinking of interfering with. I've already done this with Rush (Rush album). If you see any more pages with suspicious anon edits, let me know. Deb (talk) 07:36, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

@Deb: Thank you, will do. Maybe once we get a couple of addy's you can range block, if the range is not too large. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 13:45, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Recent removal

FYI, regarding my recent removal, I also emailed the Wikimedia Foundation per Wikipedia:Responding to threats of harm. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 16:18, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

@Erik: I already did that, but was leaving the removal to them. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 16:20, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

A message from Henry.Ewood

Hello FlightTime, sorry about those incidents, they are with good intent. I was wondering if you could help me post an article I have written about an aristocratic family I am currently studying. The family is that of Jean de Suarez d’Aulan, the article I have written is about the family itself. My main goal on Wikipedia is to post historical content, especially that of European nobility as I have recently come across a record of some families belonging to the Jockey Club of Paris and some of these families history fascinated me and I am sure it will fascinate others. Henry.Ewood (talk) 18:49, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

I just wanted to also let you know that I cannot as any internet sources as my sources only come from a private Jockey Club document found in an attic of a Castle (Chateaux d’Hebertot) in Normandy. Henry.Ewood (talk) 18:53, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

@Henry.Ewood: You can post your new article for review by clicking here and follow the instructions. As for your document, it obviously can not be used due to it's not verifiable, all I can suggest is to keep searching. Hope this helps, - FlightTime (open channel) 19:09, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Just wondering

Why you fixed the infobox at User talk:Shadowzpaev, a blocked sockpuppet? Doug Weller talk 16:37, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: IDK :P just saw a broken template and fixed it :P I can revert if its a big deal. - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 16:56, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Nah, I've deleted it, it doesn't belong on his talk page. Doug Weller talk 13:44, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

A message from Pokkeballs17

Hi, I have since added a source to the Bear Behaving Badly article on Wikipedia regarding the theme music. Hope that is okay and everything looks good. If not, feel free to message me again on my talk page.

Many thanks, Pokkeballs.

Pokkeballs17 (talk) 19:43, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

A message from 2A02:C7D:9ED8:8A00:1921:FCAA:4F31:4645

2A02:C7D:9ED8:8A00:1921:FCAA:4F31:4645 (talk) 16:36, 24 September 2018 (UTC) David Bowie was Born in London england this is true information.

I did not say it wasn't true, I said it wasn't sourced. - FlightTime (open channel) 16:38, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Prince's posthumous projects

@FlightTime: I saw you reverted my deletion because of unexplained content removal. But I explained the removal in the edit summary by saying: "Auction removed. This section is about his posthumous musical legacy, not about auctions and the such." How and/or where could I have explained it better? By reverting my contribution you (accidentally?) also removed my additions 'Anthology: 1995–2010' and 'Piano and a Microphone 1983'. I will take the deletion of the paragraph about the auction to the talk page and I again added the above mentioned additions.DJ FunkFunk 19:47, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

A message from 78.151.159.81

Hello FightTime, I am sorry about the insert I made re the wayne king thing. Life is too short to worry or make enemies so please forgive me. I won't put anything else in as I realise the nature of this website now. All the best. Mike 78.151.159.81 (talk) 15:25, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

A message from TRBoyle

@FlightTime:, I edited the Night Ranger article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Ranger) because in the first paragraph, it states that the song "Sister Christian" was written by Evan Adams (I don't know who that is). However, if you navigate to the "Sister Christian" article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_Christian), it states, "It was written and sung by the band's drummer, Kelly Keagy, for his sister." Also in the infobox for the song, the songwriter is listed as "Kelly Keagy". I feel like the information on the Night Ranger page should not contradict the song's page, so I removed the name "Evan Adams" - especially since there is no reference source to back it up. Thank you, TRBoyle TRBoyle (talk) 17:51, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

@TRBoyle: Then please add this reference to your change . Thank you, - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 18:01, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

References

A message from Couillaud

You have twice in 10 minutes made a change to the page Larry Lester without explanation, except that it used Twinkle the second time. user "BulletRogan" actually IS the subject of the article (he's a prominent Negro Leagues baseball researcher and writer), and was making a couple of minor changes, and you've twice changed the section header "As an editor/writer" to "As an editor". Is there a specific reason why that is wrong? I've been editing on WP for over 10 years, and there are still things that catch me. It's the second time since I created this article that I've been "twinkled". -- Couillaud 18:40, 26 September 2018 (UTC) Couillaud 18:40, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

@Couillaud: Well, if you've been here for ten years, then you should know that if BulletRogan is the article subject then they have a COI and shouldn't be editing the article at all. - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 18:46, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Didn't say I've been doing 10 years constantly, but I do recall that I've seen a few professional musicians add material to their own articles, making corrections, or adding information about their body of work. I was under the impression that they couldn't INITIATE their own articles, and that they couldn't do massive updates for self-promotion. I also heard stories of several politicians who were caught editing out unflattering (but true) information from their own articles, but I did not know that was a hard and fast rule now. If that is true, I will inform him, and do the edits myself.

BTW, you did not answer my question why the "As an editor/writer" got dinged twice. --- Couillaud 19:03, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

@Couillaud: Please review Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#COI editing, also if you know BulletRogan personally as you seem to infer, you also have a conflict of interest. - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 15:23, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

FlightTime, I have read the COI rules.

He is sort of a colleague, as we both do Negro Leagues research and both share our work with a pool of other researchers. I do know him personally, having bought eight of his nine books, and have met him a few times at {Society for American Baseball Research|SABR]] conventions over the years, a couple of events at the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum, and we're on a couple of the same e-lists (our prime form of contact), but I am unsure that in and of itself, that constitutes a COI; I would hope that infrequent contacts does not define meet a definition of "friend", at least by Wiki standards. You will have to tell me whether it does or not.

I was asked to do this by another entity, not because I know the subject particularly, but simply because I have some writing experience, and am probably the best-versed among my researching brethren in doing Wikipedia (most of my editing work has been in Negro Leagues baseball, and I've used some of his books as a source).

Does my association with the subject constitute a "friends" COI? Is there still a problem, and can it be ameliorated? I can cease making further edits, and inform him that he cannot; but is there a way to save the article itself from deletion? The Venn diagram of reasonably competent Wikipedia editors and serious students of Negro Leagues baseball has a pretty small intersection; I was asked to do this because I'm part of said intersection. While I agreed that he should be considered is as notable many other baseball writers with bio pages, there are few outside my background who would think to create the article without being approached first.

Should I submit it to "Articles for Creation", a process of which I know little? Should I approach one of the handful of other baseball editors on WP to submit it? How is this resolved? --- Couillaud 18:06, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Reverted edit on Alexa Bliss

This discussion/section is closed. I'm not putting up with you again.

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In the future, please consult me on my talk page before reverting my edits. I am not some IP nobody or inexperienced editor and won't be equated to such. If you felt that a source was required for the small change I made, all you had to do was make a request and I would've provided one. I am quite sure your discourtesy was an oversight and I harbor no resentment. ☧Catholic Laitinen ☧ (talk) 17:47, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Ah...No Quit adding unsourced content to BLP's and you won't be reverted. If you edit like a "some IP nobody or inexperienced editor" get use to being reverted. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:10, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

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Templates

Just as a request: if you are going to continue the fight against the "genre warriors", would you mind actually explaining to them why you are reverting them: I've created a template for myself at User:TonyBallioni/Genre warning that I plan on using whenever someone raises an issue, and you're free to tweak it if you want (it's a bit specific to me since I can block if they don't listen). If you did something like this, where it was actually explained to new users what your concerns were with their edits and how to get involved in the dispute resolution process, people like Ritchie333, RoySmith, and myself would be probably be much more likely to block when things get out of hand. I'm pretty sure Ritchie and I have told you this before, but I wanted to show you an example of what is more likely to get action at ANI. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:17, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni: I have User:FlightTime/Uw-genre1. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:21, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

@Swarm: thank you so very much. If they cannot get "the message" that something they're doing is wrong by reading those standard warnings templates or mine linked above, then it's in the WP:CIR area. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:25, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Maybe it's that my work here started in AfC and NPP, but citing content, especially for new users and IPs is really hard, and this might be a shock, but many of them don't even know how to click Wikilinks. It is not at all intuitive, and when we advertise ourselves as the encyclopedia anyone can edit, people are naturally going to think "Hey, this band I like is Grunge Rock but it doesn't say this, let me help it out!" Like I replied to Swarm, there is literally no other area of the encyclopedia where we enforce WP:V this strictly with blocks, even on BLPs (and I'll be the first to make a quick BLP block when needed.)

I respect Swarm a lot and appreciate his views on it, but I know there are other admins who don't like being involved in drama who ignore these reports that they would otherwise decline because they're afraid of getting yelled at (I've had several tell me this off-wiki). Our ideal here should be educating new users on how to edit constructively, and if that doesn't work, blocking them. I think there is a point where blocks are needed, but I also think we should give people a chance first. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:40, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

• Also, we edit conflicted, but maybe consider explaining to new users how to cite sources in your first warning? That's the big thing here: you'd really be surprised how many people simply don't get the technical aspects of that. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:44, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni: Well, along your lines of Afc & NPP I deal with RC's (I don't monitor Special:RecentChanges) on my watchlist and 99.5% of that and the same percentage of genre changes are drive by changes, those editors (really not editors just visitors) don't give a shit about references, disruptive editing and wiki rules. I understand and respect your views, but the changes I daily deal with are people I just described. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:10, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

I think we have a strong philosophical disagreement on the "visitor" vs. "editor" distinction (my general view is that the vandalizing IP today can be an admin in 12 months, if that frames it), but nothing where there can't be a practical middle ground found. Anyway, if you've seen Swarm's suggestions, the easiest thing here is just to update the templates to explain to these users how to actually cite stuff. If they don't care, it'll make bleeding hearts like me say "Damn, FlightTime, how could we have been so dumb. You're right." and if my assumption of good faith here (or, better explained, remembering how hard learning Wikimarkup can be) is right, then we gain new contributors. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:15, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni: If you're referring to User talk:TonyBallioni/Test1 I haven't read it completely, but I agree that the templates might need re-wording and would support such a project. As you suggested I might add (and adapt) your template User:TonyBallioni/Genre warning to my Twinkle custom warnings. See User:FlightTime/TB genre notice I'll make some changes tomorrow, I'm kinda done thinking for today. Have a great night. cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 00:19, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

A message from BuckRogers25

Hi FlightTime. You reverted an edit I did today, Se28, in the Neil Armstrong article in the "personal life" section. Can you please tell me your reason for your deletion of my sourced edit. Can you restore my edit? Thank you.

I had brought up this issue on the Neil Armstrong article Talk page earlier today.

@FlightTime:BuckRogers25 (talk) 01:51, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

A message from Colesa123 Concerning Questions about Sources and Citations

Hi! Hello! You recently reverted my changes on the Billy Redden wiki page, which is totally fine. I did not cite any of those things. I am very new to Wikipedia. I tried to check out the help pages to figure out just what is and is not a credible source to cite when making such changes, but there is no real good definition I could find in the help section. Does a web page for our movie work? An IMDB page? A review of the film? Only an academic journal? A transcript of the movie? Photos of Redden at the LA premier? What would you need?

And I also do not really understand the weird language that is used in many of these pages for editing. Is there a help page for that, too?

Thanks!

@FlightTime:

Colesa123 (talk) 17:07, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Colesa123 (talk) 17:07, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

A message from Bieco blu Ronnie James Dio

Hello, could you please explain me your message? Why "Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy"? It is true, there is a single by Ronnie Dio in italian language, you can hear it on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmYbIv74NQ --Bieco blu (talk) 16:15, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

And on Discography page you can find record data: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_James_Dio_discography#Singles --Bieco blu (talk) 16:17, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

@Bieco blu: Your sources need to be included with your changes, not here. - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 16:18, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Ok, but where is the source on discography page?--Bieco blu (talk) 16:29, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

A message from 76.108.135.147

You “corrected” the Stevie young page, but that info is incorrect 76.108.135.147 (talk) 21:19, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Well, read this. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:22, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, regarding the Yes members' participation section, I don't see that any of the other entries in that section are sourced, per se. So I have a reliable and confirmed course but I am not sure how to properly cite it given the aforementioned phenomenon. Thank you for whatever you can do to help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.139.154.132 (talk) 03:50, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Twinkle problems

Hiya, I've been having problems with Twinkle a lot recently, need to restart my browser a lot. I was wondering if you're able to help at all, I have twinkle installed the old way User:Govvy/monobook.js, and not selected on preferences. Govvy (talk) 18:15, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

@Govvy: I'm not very good at debugging, the best advice I can give is use the preference option or seek help here: WT:Twinkle. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:23, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

A message from MattySadMan788

Discuss your wanted changes on the article talk page here Talk:Charles Manson

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@FlightTime:

Where do I submit sources that something is inaccurate?

MattySadMan788 (talk) 12:47, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

@MattySadMan788: You start a discussion on the article's talk page. - FlightTime (open channel) 12:48, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

@FlightTime: To submit sources or to continue this discussion?

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A message from 108.160.125.102

Reverted good faith edit. Phoebe is not a large moon of Saturn - it's barely larger than 200 km in diameter. It's not even round. I could hardly call it a large moon of Saturn, when Hyperion also doesn't count, and it's larger. 108.160.125.102 (talk) 23:36, 20 October 2018 (UTC) 108.160.125.102 (talk) 23:36, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

You need to provide a reliable source that explicitly supports your claim, or seek consensus on the article's talk page. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:41, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Mimas, Enceladus, Tethys, Dione, Rhea, Titan, and Iapetus are the only rounded moons of Saturn, and this is indicated in the article. All are larger. Phoebe is not even the largest moon that comes next - that would be Hyperion. And no one refers to Hyperion as a large moon. And although Phoebe is larger than the other irregular moons of Saturn (Siarnaq is next at 40 km), Phoebe is still small enough to not be considered a large moon. 108.160.125.102 (talk) 00:00, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Not here, you need to open a discussion on the article's talk page and discuss with the editors who normally watch that page. - FlightTime (open channel) 00:05, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

It has been dealt with with a rewording of the sentence in question. ― Дрейгорич / Dreigorich Talk 01:03, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

A message from KENGRIFFEY24FAN

I Put in a Citation KENGRIFFEY24FAN (talk) 04:23, 21 October 2018 (UTC) For the Cardi B Page, I was on mobile so I couldn't put in a citation, but since I'm now at my computer, I can so, could you please remove that BLOCKED FROM EDITING WARNING, please?

@KENGRIFFEY24FAN: That is nothing but non-notable trivia. This is an Encyclopedia, not a book of fans. - FlightTime (open channel) 04:25, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry but then that would mean that Jack Nicholson's lakers paragraph would have to be deleted, so either everybody gets their favorite sports team or nobody gets their favorite sports team or, where's the bar for this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KENGRIFFEY24FAN (talk • contribs) 04:33, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

@KENGRIFFEY24FAN: Fine, open a discussion on Nicholson's talk page and get it removed. I think Nicholson's is quite notable though - FlightTime (open channel) 04:36, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

File:VathsalyaFilmPoster.jpg

Hello FlightTime, File:VathsalyaFilmPoster.jpg was not hosted on Commons and had valid non-free rationale and copyright info. Would you plz explain what was missing with the file? Thank you. --Gpkp (u • t • c) 05:48, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

@Gpkp: The file page image was blank, however there was another version File:Veera Kesari 1963.jpg. I said nothing in my delete request about Commons. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:59, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Is it? Ok. Actually I meant as per the msg in my talk page which is as: ′or corrupt image or an empty image description page for a Commons-hosted image.′ Anyways thank you. --Gpkp (u • t • c) 16:54, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

NP. - FlightTime (open channel) 16:56, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

A message from Therealnicolaasmigliore

@FlightTime: Dear Flight Phone, My Info card was deleted. I'm a Well Known. actor. I need the info page to be undeleted. Reason is I have tons a large amount of an fanbase. I want to submit the info card to the google team so they can get it published on google to receive an knowledge panel to show that I have creditability of the work I'm in from production company I work for or have made myself. I'm not advertising any type of product or any types of goods of any nature. I'm a Public Figure and and recognized as an Actor. My fanbase is a large of a variable and their are 100% chances of some fans that want to take credit for my Talent as an Actor. I would really appreciate if you can please undelte the info card that I created. THIS IS NOT A RESUME then why are their other info pages for actors? Signed Therealnicolaasmigliore Therealnicolaasmigliore (talk) 00:07, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

@Therealnicolaasmigliore: It doesn't matter, as I said, this is an Encyclopedia and not a place to post your resume so other people can see how important you think you are. Please read our guideline here Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause. Cheers, - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 00:13, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Oh, by the way, this is not Google - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 00:15, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

One Week

Hello. I actually did cite the source for where the information came from. Not sure why you didn't think so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.76.46.17 (talk) 00:49, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't see any, regardless it's not notable, just a bit of trivia. - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 00:52, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

I double checked and there was no reference added by you. - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 00:57, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

FTP Twinkle edit summary missing a paren

Just FYI, but the twinkle message for User:FlightTime Phone is missing a closing paren: "(Using Twinkle" ~ Amory (u • t • c) 10:44, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

@Amorymeltzer: Thanx :) - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 13:15, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Two things

1)Your signature should be updated for your new username.

2)The template you posted at RfPP already has the protection you requested. It was protected requiring template editor access in 2013 Enigma^msg 20:43, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Disregard 1. My mistake, I see now it's an alt account. Enigma^msg 20:44, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

@Enigmaman: Sorry, Template:0 has the wrong {{Pp}} template displayed. I'll fix it with my main account. - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 21:09, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

@Enigmaman: It's cascade protected, why is that ? - FlightTime (open channel) 21:14, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

I don't know where that cascade protection originates. I just noticed the request at RfPP and the request was for that template which was already at the requested level. List at Wikipedia:Cascade-protected items. Enigma^msg 03:49, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

A message from Onthewingsofmaybe

Hey, saw your message. I'm new to editing wiki and I'm still learning. I felt like the quote I added just furthered the point already in the article and didn't consider it a major change. I'll make a post about it in the talk page like you requested. Thanks. Onthewingsofmaybe (talk) 06:11, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

@Onthewingsofmaybe: Very good, thanx. - FlightTime (open channel) 06:14, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

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