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Ahmed El Esseily

Hi - found you through the Egypt wikiproject. Wondered if you might comment on whether a quick google turns up anything relevant to the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2008_January_30#Ahmed_El_Esseily. Always suspicious of systemic bias, I'm equally suspicious of personal articles about media types. --Paularblaster (talk) 23:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Ahmed Orabi

Did you read the discussion, of less than a month ago, on Talk:Ahmed Orabi before you replaced the name by which he was then (and is still) best known by a piece of less readable pedantry?

It is our policy to write common English here, while explaining difficulties and inaccuracies of transliteration. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 21:37, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Response. — Zerida 22:27, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Human rights section

Zerida,

I admire the work you did on the Egypt page. I think the only problem however is that some sections contain too much details, most notably, the human rights and religion sections. I realize that this is often necessary for the sake of balance, but we cannot put include every little detail and every news story in the main article. Countries with far more atrocious records like Iran, Saudi Arabia, and even North Korea, have far smaller human rights sections on their main pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Citadelite (talk • contribs) 22:27, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

RFA thanks

.: RFA thanks :.

Thanks for supporting me! My RfA passed with a final tally of 5 neutrals, 1 oppose and 148 supports, a turnout I couldn't have dreamed of. I'm going to do everything I can to help out the community, help with sysop tasks, and of course, contribute to the encyclopedia. If you ever need a hand with something, feel free to give a shout! Cheers! Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 17:57, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Re Message

Thanks for your detailed message Zerida. I understand where you're coming from.

I must say however that I'm more circumspect about airing "dirty laundry".

It's been my experience that "enemies" of Egypt often use this information when say, contrasting Israeli "democracy" with the surrounding "barbarians". I don't have a major problem with that, as most often, the side they're coming from also has its deep flaws.

But as to the rationale for airing "dirty laundry", I believe that change should mainly come from within. I admire Kefaya and all the other labour movements that have sprung up in the last couple of years. I admire journalists like Ibrahim Eissa who,despite his often empty polemic, pushes the limits of free speech everyday. Or as a better example, directors like Youssef Chahine and Khaled Youssef with movies like Heya Fawda and Heena Meysara.

Furthermore, change is not going to come from a Wikipedia article that 95% of Egyptians can't even read, but from those movements and journalists inside Egypt that are pushing for change. I don't like it when we're thought of as puppets to the US - those that say that Egyptian democracy has backtracked because the US has abandoned its goals of pusuing democracy in the ME following Islamist victories. That contention deeply undermines the potential strength of groups like Kefaya and other movements. It undermines the resolve of the average Egyptian to bring about change.

From a different angle as well, when I'm reading the article, I try to envision myself as a prospective tourist who's thinking of visiting the country and wants to check out some preliminary info. He or she will be greeted by barrage of info on Muslim/Christian tensions et al. that renders the big picture hard to discern. I'm an expat and I often meet people who think that Egyptian Muslims and Christians are killing and beheading each other in the streets a la Iraq. This mistaken image often comes from a news story they saw about say, the Alexandria church attack or the Luxor massacre. One concern I have is that the prospective visitor who has never visited the country and thus lacks knowledge of the larger context in which those acts occurred would be scared away. Ergo, my efforts at trying to add all the latest positive developments to try and balance out the immense amount of negative details. But with your gargantuan contribs, mine, and others, those sections drag on for far too long.

I am not advocating for a hunky dory article. But:

1. I think it's unfair to focus on only the negative side.

2. The detailed exposition (of the positives and negatives) could be spared to other pages. It's just not practical and it's not sustainable to include every court decision and every HRW report on the main page.

I think the best course of action would be to take all the minutiae out. Doing that while still arriving at an agreement on what constistues a "balanced" position will not be an easy task. One suggestion I have is for me to send you a preliminary version of a summary for the religion/human rights sections, and for you to send me one in return, and then we can try and arrive at a middle ground.

I believe we both deeply care about Egypt, but in different ways. I'm writing to you on a day where I probably couldn't have been more proud of being Egyptian.

That said, hope you watched the final, MABROUK!, and looking forward to further correspondance between us.

Cheers! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Citadelite (talk • contribs) 08:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Re Message 2

Funny! I also saw that episode on YouTube the day before and in the couse of writing my previous message was envisioning you as a prettier version of Khaled Youssef :)

I enjoyed watching the interview, although I think both of them have neglected to consider the fundamental problem of the absence of an age- rating system in Egypt. I am wholly against censorship, and was dismayed when I watched Amr the first time around (in one of his solo rants a couple of weeks ago) wondering how the censors permitted the movie to be released in the first place. After decades of struggling against censorship, when they give you some leeway, you should not reject it! Coming from the liberal Amr Adib, it was somewhat of a shock.

I watched the movie while on vacation in Egypt. I do agree with Amr that the movie is not suitable for children. I would venture to guess that in the US it would earn, at the least, a PG-13 rating.

I'll try to find some time to write a summary for the religion section. I'm a bit busy these days as I'm also a graduate student and, as you probably know, work keeps on coming by the truckload.

ttyl! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Citadelite (talk • contribs) 06:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for participating in my RfA! It was closed as successful with 58 supporting, 0 opposing, and 2 neutral. I hope to demonstrate that your trust in me is rightly placed and am always open to critiques and suggestions. Cheers. MBisanz talk 04:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Best pic I've seen

Doczilla's RfA

.: Oh, no! There goes To-ky-o! Admin Doczilla! :.

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Thanks for !voting! Thank you for !voting in my RfA which resulted in the collapse of civilization with 92 (94?) support, 1 oppose, and 1 neutral. Blame jc37 and Hiding for nominating me, everyone who had questions or comments, everyone who !voted, everyone who tallied the numbers correctly, and WJBScribe who closed without shouting, "No mop for you!" Seriously, your response has overwhelmed me. I am deeply grateful.

#46 City Chevy Zerida Thank you for casting the 46th vote in support.

     "The bad news is time flies. The good news is you're the pilot." - Michael Althsuler

Fiction

I am studying linguistics. I just happen to be doing it without taking classes or with much involvement with linguistics professors at my university. — Ƶ§œš¹ _{[aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi]} 02:39, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm doing both. Life is short. — Ƶ§œš¹ _{[aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi]} 04:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I can has thankspam?

Quick, let's delete the front page!

No seriously, thanks for contributing at my RfA which ended 68/0/0. I'm amazed and humbled by the result, and the warm and supportive comments that went with it. I've put the pic of Tiger here because although I know not everyone appreciates lolcats, to me it illustrates the possibility of taking things seriously with a light heart. I will try to do so, and remain open to the being slapped down if I do start being impossibly pompous. Thanks Pedro :  Chat  for your generous nomination, and also to Master of Puppets for ripping off his thankspam without so much as a by-your-leave. To all who contributed - especially the eventually withdrawn (but very interesting) neutral and oppose - thank you! Now it's off to new admin school for me, before I dare do anything for real... Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 12:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

OhanaUnited's RFA

.: Thank you! :.

Thank you for participating in my 2nd RfA and supporting me! My RfA passed unanimously at 79 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral. I would like to take this opportunity to thank AndonicO and Rudget for nominating me. I also want to thank LaraLove for persuading me to keep going after I failed my first RfA. To be really honest, I am surprised that my RfA passed without any oppose or neutral. Being an administrator means more responsibilities, especially when I'm now an administrator on both English Wikipedia as well as WikiSpecies. I promise everyone that I will use the tools effectively to serve the community. If you need help on anything, don't hesitate to leave me a message on my talk page and I will get back to you as soon as possible. Last but not least, remember the motto for Ohana: "When it comes to family, nobody gets left behind." Once again, thanks for placing your trust in me to help the community. OhanaUnitedTalk page 18:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

HaniEGY

It looks like HaniEGY is just a sockpuppet of DavidGhazawy. Notice the similarity in behavior and POV: [1], [2]... I usually assume good faith, but how many new users do you know that immediately start out by restoring another users edits, [3] and then edit war over them? Khoikhoi 08:12, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

No, your initial reaction was completely correct, it was something I would've done if I were in the same position. Yes, you haven't seen me in quite awhile because I haven't been that active at all lately. :-( Khoikhoi 08:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Dear Zerida

HaniEGY is not a sockpuppet of mine. I actually haven't logged onto wikipedia in a while (until today). If you look at the Revision as of 03:13, 14 February 2008 (edit) for HaniEGY he/she is actually trying to deface the page. If you still don't believe me ask someone senior to do an IP Address check.

Kind regards DavidGhazawy

Rhoda Island

Hi, can you add the romanization for the Arabic "island" (I guess جزيرة) in Rhoda Island? Badagnani (talk) 01:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm pleased to find a Wikipedian in Egypt and hope you will help improve the articles I've begun on Egyptian composers, as begun at List of Egyptian composers. Sources are very scarce in English. Badagnani (talk) 01:30, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. You have a lovely user page. I am writing a dissertation now on the music of Halim El-Dabh. Badagnani (talk) 01:35, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Goblet drum

Hi, could you see if ar:WP contains an article about the Goblet drum (under whichever of its names)? It seems so strange that ar:WP would not include an article about this most ubiquitous of instruments (beside the 'ud, of course). Badagnani (talk) 21:05, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I think one of the names is <span=2 style="font-size: 18pt">دربكة (darbukha). Badagnani (talk) 04:29, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Is dumbek spelled <span=2 style="font-size: 18pt">دمبك? Badagnani (talk) 04:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Cairo Conservatoire

Could you add Arabic at Cairo Conservatoire? And can you find the official site? Badagnani (talk) 04:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Done, though can't seem to find the web site right now (it might not have one yet, which would be surprising). — Zerida ☥ 05:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, can you add the romanization of the Arabic name too? Badagnani (talk) 05:20, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Cairo Opera House

Hi, can you check the Arabic and romanization I added to Cairo Opera House? Badagnani (talk) 17:18, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Cairo Symphony Orchestra

Can you add Arabic and transliteration? Badagnani (talk) 17:20, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Is اوركسترا القاهرة السيمفونى right? I want to use the official name the orchestra actually uses. Badagnani (talk) 17:24, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Typing Arabic on MS Word (Windows XP)

Hi, can you help me with a question? The computer person at my university has just helped me install right-to-left typing on the Windows XP computer of Halim El-Dabh. I already have the Arabic ASDF Western keyboard, which works great on the Internet to type Arabic, but in Microsoft Word the Arabic letters didn't connect, even though I had clicked "right-to-left" in MS Word. So today he brought the Windows XP CD-R that allowed for the installation of complex scripts and right-to-left typing in Windows and MS Word.

Now, the problem is that when I set right-to-left and the Arabic ASDF Western keyboard on MS Word, I type an Arabic word, then hit the space bar, it puts the space to the RIGHT of the word instead of the left, then the next word I type goes to the RIGHT of the last word I'd typed. The Arabic letters are connecting and typing from right to left, it's just when hitting the space bar and typing the next word that the words are not following one another in the right order. About an hour ago, I had it working correctly, but now it's reverted back to the incorrect way. The only way to put the words into the right order is to move the cursor after each word and insert a space, or to cut and paste words, but I think there must be an easier way.

I guess the fix should be something easy, but I just can't figure it out, and hope you might know. My home computer, with Windows Vista, works fine for Arabic even without installing anything; it's just the XP that causes problems (since the version Windows is the English one, not the Arabic one). Thank you, Badagnani (talk) 21:41, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Now it's working again. I don't know what I'm doing to make it work, or not... :-( Badagnani (talk) 21:43, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I just opened a new Word document and it's stopped working again. I notice that when it is working properly, the line between letters is short, but when it isn't working, the line between letters becomes very long. I wonder if this has something to do with it. Badagnani (talk) 21:45, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Voiced velar plosive

There are two reasons, the first is that stating that Egyptian Arabic is a separate language while other colloquial varieties of Arabic are not would be a bit POV. The second reason is that Egyptian Arabic is not the only variety that has the velar realization of this phoneme. Some Yemeni dialects also do this. Also, other dialects of Arabic have a voiced velar plosive that corresponds to different Classical Arabic consonants such as San'ani Arabic, which has a /g/ that corresponds to CA /q/. Having two columns allows for this sort of grouping together like you see for Occitan and Spanish at voiceless alveolar fricative. — Ƶ§œš¹ _{[aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi]} 02:33, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

The way these tables work, you can use a dialect-specific word (for instance, maths, bloke, or arse for British English and elevator and aluminum for American English) in the example. That rāgel is specific to EA, then, has little bearing on whether we represent Egyptian Arabic with one column or two (though if it's important enough to you, I'm sure we can find a word that has cognates in CA or other colloquial varieties of Arabic). I pointed out Occitan and Spanish only to make sure you understood what I meant in the representation of multiple dialects of one language, not to compare the language situations. I do take issue with your assumption that different dialects of Occitan or Spanish don't vary in vocabulary or grammar. If they differed only in pronunciation, they would be referred to as accents. Granted, the differences are much greater with Arabic and Chinese, but this is nothing to gloss over. You're right that it's better to have the link go to Egyptian Arabic rather than Masri language, though since it goes to the same place I didn't think it was that important. I didn't know that you were trying to address that and although my partial reversion put it back to the latter, I don't mind the link being the former. Oh, and as for ɡ vs g, I prefer the latter since it's easier to see in the edit box. The appear in the article the same on IE, which is the most commonly used browser. — Ƶ§œš¹ _{[aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi]} 06:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Now you've got me confused. You said "The example used, rāgel, is an Egyptian Arabic word" which I took to mean that it's a word specific to EA. I think I see what you mean now in that EA rāgel is to /radʒul/ of other varieties what English Mother is to German Mutter.

I think that you're right that Chinese and Arabic should be treated the same and we've got a bit of an inconsistancy on our hands. I would favor putting the "dialects" together for sociolinguistic reasons, but I take it you disagree. We should bring this up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Phonetics and see what the community thinks. — Ƶ§œš¹ _{[aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi]} 21:54, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

My notes from Watson (2002) say that it's "/g/ in Cairene and Yemini dialects spoken in Ta’izz and in the Hugariyyah." So I should probably be more specific. I thought it would be good to use the same word as the Egyptian Arabic, though the actual form I got is from Standard Arabic. Is this a mistake? — Ƶ§œš¹ _{[aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi]} 04:54, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Point taken. I'll put an example request. — Ƶ§œš¹ _{[aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi]} 05:11, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not well versed in syntax. :( — Ƶ§œš¹ _{[aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi]} 21:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Flag (third time)

Hi Zerida, I left a message about the flag at Talk:Copt. Would appreciate your views. (deja vu ?)--George (talk) 05:56, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I left a comment on the article's talk page, though not adding much more than what I've said before. Try working it out on the talk page and see what kind of consensus you get. Cheers, — Zerida ☥ 21:25, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

HaniEGY is not a sockpuppet of mine - Egyptian Australian page

Dear Zerida

HaniEGY is not a sockpuppet of mine. I actually haven't logged onto wikipedia in a while (until today). If you look at the Revision as of 03:13, 14 February 2008 (edit) for HaniEGY he/she is actually trying to deface the page. If you still don't believe me Just check the history and see all the additions I made and then if you're still unsure please ask someone senior to do an IP Address check.

Kind regards DavidGhazawy 5th of March, 2008 (19:23)

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Dear Zerida

Thanks for the quick and polite response; the only reason I added the Hebrew language was because it is studied by some Coptic Theological Colleges. However, I agree with your initial assessment about it not being included in the Australian census and therefore probably not relevant to the article. DavidGhazawy 6th of March, 2008 (10:25am). —Preceding comment was added at 23:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Check spelling

Hi, can you check the Arabic spellings at Mona Ghoneim and Rageh Daoud? Badagnani (talk) 03:06, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Takht

Hi, can you check that the right Arabic for Takht is تخت? I can't find anything on YouTube under this spelling which makes me think it's not spelled right, because this is the most popular Arabic traditional ensemble and there should be a lot of videos under this name. Badagnani (talk) 22:44, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! Can you tell me the name of the qanun player here? Is it Fahmy 'Awd? Or is that the singer's name? Badagnani (talk) 23:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again, I'm gradually learning how the letters are put together and pronounced. Can you tell if this was filmed in Egypt? My guess is yes. Badagnani (talk) 01:16, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Still can't figure out why there aren't any YouTube links for the Arabic word takht. It's such an important and popular type of ensemble. Badagnani (talk) 21:13, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Any way to find the Arabic name for this Cairo Congress of Arab Music (or ar:WP interwiki)? Badagnani (talk) 21:13, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I think I got it via a Google search, but I'm not sure if "الأول" should be part of it. Badagnani (talk) 21:57, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

No clue here, there seems to be too many variations of the name. — Zerida ☥ 00:14, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Does "الأول" make sense in the title? Badagnani (talk) 00:23, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I showed the video to Halim El-Dabh and he said the singer is Saleh Abdel-Hay, who was Egyptian. (In fact, just last month El-Dabh did a lecture in Boston and by coincidence used an audio example of a "Ya Leil Ya Ainy" by Abdel-Hay as one of the examples). He bought a tape of Abdel-Hay's in Zagazig in the 1980s. He was surprised by the idea that the orchestra may have been Tunisian. I wish the uploader of that video would give more details. Badagnani (talk) 20:35, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Hassan Aziz Hassan

Here's a new one for you to check. Badagnani (talk) 23:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll see if I can find something on him. — Zerida ☥ 00:14, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not finding much of anything, and don't know much about him or the former royal family. Maybe because he has such a common Middle Eastern name. — Zerida ☥ 00:20, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I linked two articles (in English) about him. I guess after 1952 most people lost interest in the deposed royal family. Badagnani (talk) 00:24, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually there has been a great deal of interest in the royal family of late for some reason, though I don't particularly share it myself (nor am I a fan of the 52 coup d'état). A television series about King Farouk that was made last year drew a lot of attention from Egyptian audiences. I believe it won several awards. — Zerida ☥ 00:32, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Ancient Egypt

Hi Zerida, Thanks for your comments on Ancient Egypt. I'll continue to work on these. Would you like to help with the language section, since you have some expertise in this area? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 17:57, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Need check

Hi, can you check Arabic at Bashraf and Sama'i? I know bashraf comes from Turkish, but can you check the etymology of sama'i? It seems to be Arabic, but this form was most popular in the Ottoman world. I know Arabic, Turkish, and Persian terms are all common in Middle Eastern music, and sometimes folk (fake) etymologies show up, when in fact the word is from another language. Badagnani (talk) 07:13, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Also Andalusi nubah. I think I got this wrong :-( Badagnani (talk) 07:21, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply; I'm not really sure how the terms would be written as I am not familiar with them, but I corrected sama'i. I think that's how it should be written. — Zerida ☥ 03:01, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

RfA - Discospinster

Thank you so much for your support in my RfA, which was successful with a final count of 70/1/1! ... discospinster _talk 23:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank-you

I can has mop?

Hi Zerida! Thank-you for your support in my RfA (91/1/1). I take all the comments to heart and hope I can fulfil the role of being an admin to the high standard that the community deserves. Seraphim♥ Whipp 17:56, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Iqa'

Hi, can you check Iqa'? Badagnani (talk) 20:55, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Need Arabic

Hi, can you add Arabic at Sagat (musical instrument) and Zil? Badagnani (talk) 04:52, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, now I think "zil" is the Turkish name and "sagat" is the Arabic name, for the same instrument. Badagnani (talk) 04:54, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I think I got it Badagnani (talk) 05:04, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, can you tell me the Arabic for the large tambourine called mazhar? Is it <span=2 style="font-size: 18pt">مزهر? Badagnani (talk) 06:57, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Also need bendir. Is it <span=2 style="font-size: 18pt">بندیر or <span=2 style="font-size: 18pt">بندير? Badagnani (talk) 06:57, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

As with the other ones, I would not be familiar with technical names like these. I've never heard of them. Your best bet is probably with professor El-Dabh. — Zerida ☥ 03:09, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

He helped me, thanks. I just thought you could more easily search for these things on the Arabic Internet than I, to double check. Strangely, most of what I find related to music are blog postings (some good, some bad), but nothing systematic like Maqam World or Wikipedia. So what we're doing is really valuable for worldwide knowledge of Arabic music. Badagnani (talk) 04:44, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, can you check the Arabic at Sayed Awad? And are there any websites in Arabic about him? Badagnani (talk) 23:38, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Can you find the Arabic for Khedivial Opera House? Badagnani (talk) 23:50, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

The first one looks fine in terms of spelling, though I can't be sure because googling in Arabic is not turning up with the artist's name. The second one I don't know, I'll ask around. I suggest making a request at WP:MASR as well. — Zerida ☥ 04:14, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Varieties of Arabic Template

That was a good edit on the Varieties of Arabic template. The previous labels were confusing to more than one person I've chatted with. (Taivo (talk) 23:34, 22 March 2008 (UTC))

Confusing to me as well. Glad it works. — Zerida ☥ 00:32, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Your Work

Very well, i'm thankful for the rating process... :) I'm a big fan of Wikipedia and i do hope to provide contributions of value to Egypt-related articles and otherwise. :D i did go through some of your edits and they are quite good; keep it up! ;) Anyway, i wanted to ask you for help uploading some Eftekasat photos. (and please dont reply with links to the policies coz they do no good what so ever!) So if you can search for some 'free', or whatever they call them these days, images, i would really appreciate it! :) Thanks. Maged M. Mahfouz (talk) 23:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

This may sound stupid but where exactly is the rating? XD Maged M. Mahfouz (talk) 01:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Sadly, i dont have a camera! :( and when i did upload a pic taken by my friend, the adminstators deleted it!! :S:S and i meant, where is the voting? :D Maged M. Mahfouz (talk) 15:11, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok! i will try to contact the other members and see what they think of the rating. Maybe even ask them to add their opinion on the Wikiproject talk page. Thanks anyway Maged M. Mahfouz (talk) 22:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Your Edit

Thankyou for telling me about your Edit From ImogenPacker (talk) 18:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)|Imogen Packer)) P.S. I'm a fan of Ancient Egypt!

Glad to hear that. Thanks for understanding. — Zerida ☥ 18:12, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

As an Egyptian, I hope u accept my thanks

Thank you for warning Arab league for his/her vandalism on Egypt's identity. One last pharaoh (talk) 19:04, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem, it's a sensitive topic so unilateral deletions from that section are bound to be reverted. — Zerida ☥ 19:11, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanx

Thanx for ur warning to Arab league. i was wondering about wikimania 2008, and thought u may want to help me. i live in alexandria, and i think u agree with me that that's a one time in life chance. in fact, i know about wikimania through u, were i saw it's sympole in your user page. Thanx in advace.One last pharaoh (talk) 19:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Would you like to volunteer [4]?. You can contact any of the existing coordinators for more details. I suggest dropping Meno a note on his talk page. Here's where you can add your name by the way [5]. Cheers, — Zerida ☥ 19:26, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

your response was very helpful. Thanx a lot.One last pharaoh (talk) 12:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikimania

Hi, Zerida. W Enti Kaman Wahshani. It is really great to have a Wikimania in Alex and I hope that our attendees enjoy it. I would be glad to answer any questions about the event. See you. --Meno25 (talk) 18:26, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar of Diligence

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		This barnstar of diligence recognizes your patient, enduring efforts to help with ancient Egypt at FAC. The article is so much better than I thought it could be. We didn't always agree, so I'm especially grateful of your continued commitment. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 04:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Jeff, I appreciate it :-) I know that we've had our disagreements, but the collegial and cordial collaborative relationship that we strove to maintain throughout has made this process worthwhile. Cheers, — Zerida ☥ 04:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Coptic Flag

Hey Zerida! It has been a long time :) Would you mind taking a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coptic flag? Thanks! --Lanternix (talk) 23:50, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Nahuatl FAC

I have adressed your concerns to the best of my ability. I hope you agree with the way I have executed the changes. ·Maunus· ·ƛ· 14:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for keeping me updated. I left another comment on the nomination page. Cheers, — Zerida ☥ 01:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I've continued work on the phonology section today and attempted to explain the complex issue of omnipredicativity in a few short lines. ·Maunus· ·ƛ· 19:39, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Scots

You keep reverting sensible edits to Scots language

The following is unsourced nonsense: but arguably upto 2.5 million speakers throughout Northumberland, County Durham and Tyne and Wear.

A source for a sensible treatment of the subject is perhaps the following about the Southern Boundary of Scottish Speech. The map is here.

Since the languageness of Scots is justifiably debatable, as explained in the second paragraph and further on under Status, using Scots is an Anglic language descended... in the first sentence pre-empts the second paragraph and is arguably POV, a more neutral phrasing would perhaps be: Scots refers to the Anglic varieties derived from early northern Middle English spoken in parts of Scotland. OK Anglic is just a polite way of saying English but up to now it has been accepted as a NPOV compromise

That, of course, doesn't solve the same problem in the 'Other Uses' tag at the top of the page.

Mentioning that it is also called Lowland Scots is fine but Lallans is not a contraction of lowland Scots but simply the Scots form of lowlands (and is mentioned in the fourth paragraph). It would suffice to mention that Scottish Gaelic is traditionally spoken in the Highlands and Islands. More information such as and small communities in the urban lowlands may lead to demands to have that bloke in Hawick included too. It clutters the article. After all, the article is about Scots. Detailed info about the distribution of Gaelic speakers belongs in the article Scottish Gaelic.

In Scotland it is sometimes called Lowland Scots to distinguish it from Scottish Gaelic traditionally spoken in the Highlands and Islands. 84.135.203.25 (talk) 23:51, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

This was part of a complex revert of significant changes, including vandalism, to the contents of the article. The lead should be descriptive per WP:LEAD; in fact, it is not sensible to repeatedly delete all references to Scots being a language when the title of the page is Scots language, and when it is recognized as such by several governmental bodies in the UK (information that you [?] kept erasing as well). Thus the "languageness" of Scots is not justifiably debatable *for Wikipedia*. The debate *itself* however can be mentioned in the article. Also please note that it is customary to start a discussion on the talk page when you are reverted. Other editors will be less tempted to view your edits as vandalism, particularly if you secure consensus for these changes. BTW, I do agree that if the statement regarding the number of Scots speakers in England cannot be substantiated by reliable sources, then it should be removed. Thanks for the link above on Scots phonetics, I found it informative (though not much on the question of the number of speakers outside Scotland). — Zerida ☥ 04:56, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

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