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Straw poll for selecting pics of 2008 cricketers

Photos were taken at the team parade at the training for ODIs in January/February 2009 at Adelaide Oval.

Unlike the Indian team last year, they actually took training seriously. They were all very gentlemanly. Very dignified and genial. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 07:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment (numbering pictures from 1, 2, 3 etc, left to right) and ~~~~

Poll: Tim Southee bowling

also

1 - I like the ball being visible in the photo. Also, face not obscured by net. Pdfpdf (talk) 10:58, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
5: by far the best composition and color balance. Durova^Charge! 04:53, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
5 is excellent for showing his action - even to the extent of clearly showing his fingers and the seam. --195.194.4.65 (talk) 16:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
5 per above. Any of the first four at fish. --brew crewer (yada, yada) 01:20, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
5 - Probably the best pic as it's in match conditions. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 03:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
5 - Clarity and action. Benders Game 23:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
5 - Photo no. 5 is good. AdjustShift (talk) 08:41, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
5 seems the best of the lot.--Dakota (Sandahl at work or on wikibreak) 19:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Trent Boult bowling

Hard one! 1 has ball in it; 2 is better, but no ball; 3 has great shot of ball, but not so good of Trent. 1 or 2 Pdfpdf (talk) 11:27, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 Durova^Charge! 05:10, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
3 - Has the ball Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 03:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 or 2. 3 has the ball but he looks like he threw it at the Yellow monkey.--Dakota (Sandahl at work or on wikibreak) 14:38, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Brendon Diamanti bowling

tossup - maybe 1 Pdfpdf (talk) 11:20, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 Durova^Charge! 05:12, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 - Brendon who? Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 03:57, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 - less fencing obscuring his face.--Dakota (Sandahl at work or on wikibreak) 00:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Brendon Diamanti fielding

2 Pdfpdf (talk) 11:28, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 Durova^Charge! 05:13, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 - Ball in pic and not too bright. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 03:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2--Dakota (Sandahl at work or on wikibreak) 00:21, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 better -- Tinu Cherian - 07:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Ashley Mallett

1 Pdfpdf (talk) 11:31, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 Durova^Charge! 05:14, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 But I might favor 1 if the lighting could be improved somehow. JoshuaZ (talk) 03:49, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 1 would be better if it could be lightened.--Dakota (Sandahl at work or on wikibreak) 13:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Albie Morkel

2 Durova^Charge! 05:15, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 --Dakota (Sandahl at work or on wikibreak) 13:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Ben_Hilfenhaus bowling

2- Best full expression. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 07:56, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 Action with ball in frame. Durova^Charge! 05:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2- I'll go with photo no. 2. AdjustShift (talk) 09:18, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Cameron White bowling

3 Durova^Charge! 05:17, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
3 Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:29, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Dale Steyn

2 Durova^Charge! 05:18, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 or 3 Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:30, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Dale Steyn bowling

2 Durova^Charge! 05:19, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:33, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: David Hussey bowling

2 Durova^Charge! 05:21, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
??? Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:34, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: David Hussey

2 Durova^Charge! 06:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:34, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 -- Tinu Cherian - 07:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Hashim Amla

3 Durova^Charge! 06:02, 14 April 2009 (UTC)...Sorry Durova and YM the last image has gone now - Peripitus (Talk) 12:16, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh that guy copyvios a lot from Cricinfo, well that means one of my images stays! YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:26, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Herschelle Gibbs fielding

3 Durova^Charge! 06:23, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
3 - Agree with Durova. AdjustShift (talk) 08:47, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1/3 Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Herschelle Gibbs

2 Durova^Charge! 22:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:36, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Jacques Kallis

1 Durova^Charge! 22:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:37, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 -- Tinu Cherian - 07:17, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Johan Botha bowling

2 Durova^Charge! 22:30, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:38, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Johan Botha fielding

3 Durova^Charge! 03:15, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
3 Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:38, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Johan Botha

5 Durova^Charge! 03:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
4 Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:39, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: JP Duminy bowling

1 Durova^Charge! 03:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:39, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: JP Duminy

1 Durova^Charge! 03:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Les Burdett

‎

1 Durova^Charge! 03:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Makhaya Ntini

2 Durova^Charge! 03:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
??? Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:42, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 -- Tinu Cherian - 07:20, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Makhaya Ntini bowling

2 Durova^Charge! 04:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Mark Boucher

2 Durova^Charge! 04:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 -- Tinu Cherian - 07:21, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Mickey Arthur

1 Durova^Charge! 04:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Mike Hussey bowling

1 Durova^Charge! 04:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Mike Hussey

1 (don't like any of them though) Durova^Charge! 04:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Mike Young

2 Durova^Charge! 04:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 -- Tinu Cherian - 08:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Mitchell Johnson bowling

2 Durova^Charge! 04:35, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
6 - it is clear. AdjustShift (talk) 08:48, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
6 -- Tinu Cherian - 08:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Morne Morkel bowling

5 Durova^Charge! 04:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Morne Morkel

1 Durova^Charge! 04:37, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 -- Tinu Cherian - 08:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Nathan Hauritz bowling

2 - Hard to tell the difference! (I guess that means he's consistent!!) Pdfpdf (talk) 11:44, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 - Much of a muchness. He consistently bowled crap yesterday! Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 05:22, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 Durova^Charge! 04:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Nathan Hauritz

3 Durova^Charge! 04:40, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
3 Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:55, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
3 -- Tinu Cherian - 08:06, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Neil McKenzie

1 needs cropping top and left, and levels balanced though. Durova^Charge! 04:41, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 (agree w durova) Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:54, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Shaun Marsh

1 Durova^Charge! 04:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 -- Tinu Cherian - 08:05, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Shaun Tait bowling

1 Durova^Charge! 04:43, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: shaun Tait

3 not by much though; basically a tossup. Durova^Charge! 04:44, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1. When you see the full version of 3 it's not as attractive. Tschravic (talk) 07:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:54, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Tim Nielsen bowling

3 Durova^Charge! 04:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Wayne Parnell bowling

2 Durova^Charge! 04:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Vaughn van Jaarsveld

1 Durova^Charge! 04:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1 Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:53, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1--Dakota (Sandahl at work or on wikibreak) 00:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 -- Tinu Cherian - 08:03, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poll: Lonwabo Tsotsobe bowling

Poll: Andrew Hilditch

2 Durova^Charge! 04:54, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:52, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 He'd rather take his dog for a walk. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:44, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 --Dakota (Sandahl at work or on wikibreak) 00:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
2 -- Tinu Cherian - 07:23, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Everything else

Bravery

'tis a brave thing you have done, and done rightly so. I hold you in the highest esteem. Keegan^talk 20:21, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto. --Dakota (Sandahl at work or on wikibreak) 00:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Err, looks like people support paid editing. I don't agree with that but I would think that at the very least, those above admin level should have to declare any sponsorships and at least not openly advertise themselves. Cabinet ministers aren't allowed to do that [at least not openly]. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

is it?

I read your post at JW's page. I cant help but wonder who this is? --Like I Care 01:51, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's Nichalp. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 02:22, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I thought so. I cant believe he could sell his wikipedia experience. --Like I Care 02:40, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Was that original question rhetorical out of interest because I thought you would have spotted the outing below. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 02:50, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

just cautious just in case I had misunderstood. didnt mean to put you on the spot. --Like I Care 02:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see how two patterns of argument develop about this issue, one questioning the ethical aspect and other "so what?" argument. interesting. I personally believe it is unethical. --Like I Care 03:02, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I found this development pretty saddening, since I greatly respect Nichalp contributions to the WPINDIA project. A part of me continues to hope that this is just some Joe job, even while recognizing the infinitesimal odds of that scenario.
As for the RFC itself: I find paid editing on wikipedia unacceptable both as an ethical and as a practical matter. I was shocked to read the RFC earlier today and find that my position was (and perhaps still is) pretty much an outlier, and I think this may be the first RFC that I have opined at. A sad situation all around. <sigh> Abecedare (talk) 03:22, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well one article by the account that I checked was less than NPOV. I did a google search on the subject and found all sorts of info about lawsuits, fraud, run-ins with corporate watchdogs etc. Needless to say, the article only had a list of awards and achievements and things from the guy's own website, which is not reputable when contrasted with the stuff I found in the news. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 02:47, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am not surprised. If I were to pay good money to create an article, I would definitely try to have as glowing a profile as I can get away with. And if I am a relatively obscure person, company or product, there is essentially no limit on what I can get away with, since few neutral editors will ever care enough to thoroughly review an article on wikipedia that appears to follow MOS and has a lengthy-ish reference section. I will also make sure that my article is never nominated for a formal GA/FA review where its deficiencies may possibly be detected - and since my employee is the main contributor, that is easily ensured.

Here are two ads I read on elance (not related with Nichalp). The hiring client is pretty explicit about his goals:

Stable Wikipedia Product Placement

"Expand "carpet cleaning" article and create articles on "carpet dry cleaning" and on major system manufacturers. Competitors will be included but every sourceable and encyclopedic marketing spin will be present. Ongoing stability advocacy is included..."

wikipedia entry for boosting webtraffic

"We want to have a page created in Wikipedia about Carpet Dry Cleaning. We have already prepared an extensive content, and need someone to revise and adapt it. The goal is to get listed and have a backlink to our site ..."

And yes, both projects were accepted and completed. Paid editing on behalf of the article subject (or his detractor) is innately incompatible with COI and NPOV both in theory and in practice; how much ever we may like to believe otherwise. Abecedare (talk) 03:15, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's be funny if instead the result of the paid editing was that the WP community dug up the guy's dirty laundery and plastered it on the article YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:46, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The blocking of The Diamond Apex

On 28th June, without any on-record discussion, you indefinitely blocked The Diamond Apex, [1] claiming that it was a sockpuppet account and was, to quote your edit summary, "MarshallBAgramyan hiding from sanctions".
I ask to see the reasoning behind this decision?
Who was it that initiated the sockpuppet allegation?
Why is there no public record of the allegation being discussed?
What evidence have you to back up the claim you made in your edit summary? Meowy 18:21, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

CU data, which I can't reveal. Needless to say, a direct hit. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 02:47, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

YellowMonkey is one of the few Wikipedia editors who have a CheckUser tool. That answers all your questions. Shahid • ^Talk2me 19:24, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It answers nothing - except to make all my suspicions confirmed. What a nasty lot you are. Truly vile. How do you behave in real life, I wonder?

For my second unanswered question Nishkid64 has stated that it was he who requested the CU. My first, third, and fourth unanswered questions will of course stay unanswered by the guilty parties (YellowMonkey and Nishkid64). The Diamond Apex is just the sort of editor Wikipedia needs - someone from an academic background (who has access to proper reference materials and not the tripe you lot love), and someone who dares argue against the opinionated biggotry of certain administrators. For that reason, in my head I gave The Diamond Apex six months before your nasty little cabal would get rid of him. I guess I underestimated you. Meowy 08:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes Nishkid. What do you want me to do? Reveal their numbers? I can just write

Confirmed here but it doesn't really add anything. Well I have written about 18 FAs on history and they only use textbooks; no websites YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 08:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

? Meowy 18:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Meowy, Marshall has already admitted that The Diamond Apex was someone he knew in real life. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 19:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Windle -fr

Hi, I translate your article on my the fr.wikipedia fr:Bob Windle. I've differents questions : with who Bob Windle win the relay 4 x 220 yd freestyle in 1961 ? Do you know why in 1968 take a retirement of swimming ? Where can I find a list of records of 220 yd freestyle (to know the record of who Windle beat and who have beatten the record of Windle). Sorry for my terrible english.--Chaps the idol (talk) 11:50, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure about the 220 yd lists, but I can try to have a look. In those days there were no sponsors at all, so most swimmers retired quite young and got a job. Most swimmers went to the US to get a scholarship to study and swim and that can't last forever and ends when they graduate. The book doesn't explicitly explain why but I don't think he could have gotten 8 years of scholarships to hang around for another Olympics. User:JKBrooks85 writes FAs on college sport in the US, he could explain the rules I think. I don't think there is an explicit list of all the Australian champsions on the internet or in a book, maybe emailing Swimming Australia is necessary. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The first 4 x 220 yd freestyle win was in 1961 :P Phelps, Neville Hayes, Allan Wood, Windle. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:49, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hepatorenal syndrome

Hi YellowMonkey. Can I ask for your assistance on Hepatorenal syndrome? I've worked a lot on it over the past couple of weeks. I want to make it closer to FA calibre before going to WP:FAC but I worry about the jargon (it sounds too medicalese to me). If you have some free time, could you piece through it and let me know the areas that should be de-jargonified? Thanks very much sir and hope all is well -- Samir 15:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, but personally I do not care about jargon and dumbing things down.... but people do tell me off on all these cricket terms to wikilink evertyhing almost and every cricketing turn of phrase. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:46, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciated. Thanks Notorious. Sending you a FB msg in a second -- Samir 05:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Naked Brothers Band (TV series)

Hey YellowMonkey, when you get the chance can you take a look at The Naked Brothers Band (TV series)—no rush.
Thanx!
ATC^{. Talk} 18:18, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Anything in particular? It's pretty boring here, waiting a week on average for a single comment on my FAC Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Early life of Keith Miller/archive1 YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:46, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well their is a lot of information and pictures of the production (in particular editing, because Craig Cobb is editor of Sex and The City and The Naked Brothers Band in this reference that we could use, if you could help me by adding the information in the production information—as well as pictures—I'll add some information too from the citation. I'm going to add citenews to the citations. Thanx! ATC^{. Talk} 21:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That has got to be annoying to wait for a respond for that Keith Miller article. ATC^{. Talk} 01:09, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Raun Kaufman

Hi YellowMonkey, I was wondering if this picture of Raun Kaufman, is copyright infringement, and if not could you upload it to the Raun Kaufman article. Thanx! ATC^{. Talk} 04:42, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unless there is evidence stating it is public domain/freeware then the assumption s that it's not YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 01:46, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to not exist actually YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 02:23, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and.... What???

Thank you for Gulzar. Are you kidding me? Our Nichalp? Shahid • ^Talk2me 07:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm shocked! I never knew there was such thing as paid editing. Is it legal? Is it acceptable? And who pays them? People who want to advertise their products or what? And what does this external link you cited mean? Shahid • ^Talk2me 08:56, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't really a policy but there is one against using sockpuppets as badhand accounts. The external link is a copy of Nichalp's advert YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 07:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Special request

How are you doing? On Dec. 10, 2006, you awarded me the DYK Medal. Well, it took me a long time, but I finally reached my 50th DYK (here is the proof: Tony's Did You Knows?) and I would be honored if it were you who awarded me the 50th DYK Medal. Tony the Marine (talk) 03:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Holy Tamales, you are fast! Thanks. Tony the Marine (talk) 03:58, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A pleasure YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 03:59, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

York Park

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:York_Park/GA3 Yeah thanks mate, it's coming along nicely and would have to be close to GA standard. The only problem is finding an alive ref for the naming rights sponsorship. Found this but it may not be reliable. Nearly there I think. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 07:38, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indian box

Yeo thanks. I was surprised it wasn't fully protected, Yes I will be continuing my work with the districts and communes of Vietnam. Wish I could get hold of some reliable data on the communes though. At present I'm a bit tied with Mexico. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 08:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Teh census site I gave you has all the populations for communes YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 00:52, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Marxistman

I noticed you mentioned at the block log for DoctorRed (talk · contribs) [2] that there were multiple other socks of Marxistman (talk · contribs). Do you know what those other accounts are? Cirt (talk) 06:43, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SmartBOT1, Boxygirl YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 06:45, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Is the IP address info for Marxistman, DoctorRed, SmartBOT1, and/or Boxygirl located to Los Angeles, California? And also, can you say any other IP information, such as have the accounts used open proxies? Cirt (talk) 07:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes they are in CA YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 07:42, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Presentations

I have been known to dabble with them, yes :) What date/venue/duration/topics are you looking at? I assume something sports- and Wikipedia-related for the last. Daniel (talk) 07:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, there isn't a specific date. Bernard Whimpress teh curator of the Adelaide Oval Museum, he runs a sports history club and he asked me (admittedly it was a bit offhand) if I was interested in explaining to the others how sports history works on Wikipedia. I'm guessing it might be difficult without a laptop YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, sure, I'll happily tag along and play your side-kick. Daniel (talk) 07:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Err ok, if he's still interested. He's off to Lord's for the Ashes so not immediately. A few other luminaries go to the meetings. Jenny Thompson from Cricinfo and Roger Wills from ABC radio. For other examples, see WP:AWNB/A YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 07:10, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You have been nominated for membership of the Established Editors Association

The Established editors association will be a kind of union of who have made substantial and enduring (and reliably sourced) contributions to the encyclopedia for a period of time (say, two years or more). The proposed articles of association are here - suggestions welcome.

If you wish to be elected, please notify me here. If you know of someone else who may be eligible, please nominate them here

Discussion is here.Peter Damian (talk) 18:42, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Noted, thanks. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User:Adil your

looks like he was a sockpuppet Wikireader41 (talk) 02:18, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, pity I didn't know YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 07:10, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

he managed to get unblocked. ????Wikireader41 (talk) 01:07, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Studley Cornes

When I first saw it, I also assumed it some nickname that he picked up during his footy career but on the Vietnam War Nominal Roll he is listed as 'Graham Studley Cornes'. God knows what his parents were thinking, but it would seem that it is indeed his middle name. Cheers. Jevansen (talk) 06:23, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, well I suppose he could have given himself the name. A person I know added his own middle name: "Zebedee". YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 07:10, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Graham wasn't thinking much clearer when he came up with Kane. Although that's better than Studley :) Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 07:14, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I would like to know why people call their kids Tristan (Triste is French for sad) YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 08:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Philipjelley

Thanks for welcoming him, and hopefully he can just tone his style a little. When I started I was a bit of a POV pusher, especially on Tassie arts. The 3 revert rule is a good one, although it's annoying when someone is blatantly vandalising (especially a GA/FA) like on Melbourne Airport. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 07:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He isn't a POV-pusher, the hyperbole in the article depicts mainstream thinking on the 1950s era YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 08:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't meaning he is. I was just stating how a year ago I was a bit of a pov pusher as I didn't understand wikipedia and thought arts was pure nonesense, with randoms adding crap. lol, wasn't I naive. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 09:20, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I know you didnt YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Histor of the ACT

I am reverting this to the normal kind of structure for the lead, I think the unorthodox pre-amble will attract more negative attention at an inevitable FAR.YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 07:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC) I made some minor edits but kept the paragraph structure pretty much the same. Forgot to unbold the history of the ACT if that's what you're referring to Chrisfromcanberra (talk) 08:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to have mostly inverted it. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 08:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vancouver FAR

Having a look through the Vancouver art, I highly doubt it would even pass a GAN. I'm not exacly sure on what I should do now. Can I nominate it? Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 10:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that's a legitimate nomination YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good, Hope I did it right? Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 05:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, FAR needs more reviewers, on the 50-50 cases at least. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:39, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

One day when I have more experience ;) Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 05:59, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Some of them are still pretty obvious but there are no reviewers and even if only half the obvious problems are fixed people can't be bothered looking for the other half some times YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 06:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SA lost yet another crunch game

Hey BL, Pakistan are through to the final of T20 World Cup. SA lost yet another crunch game. AdjustShift (talk) 20:20, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, appalling! YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Haha choked again. Afridi the nutcase decides to make his only appearance for the year. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 06:01, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Claggy

Hi YM. If you are feeling up for it, would you be able to create for me your usual cricket bio tables and graphs for Kim Hughes please? With Ponny most of the way there, I am in the mood to start serious work on Hughes again. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 23:10, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that was quick! -- Mattinbgn\^talk 01:30, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The graph was already there and when I went to my spreadsheet it said "K Hughes" already exists! YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

re: Despair at FAR

Hey YM, thanks for your note. I do understand where you're coming from, and I'm aware that people have gotten frazzled at FAR and that it's not what it used to be. Sometimes I foolishly believe I can make a difference or affect some change through my actions, though. :)

What annoyed me is that, in two particular instances, I decided to actually work on the referencing. I figured if anyone still watching FAR saw me doing it, they might help, and we might be able to save a couple. So on Samuel Beckett, the nomination mentioned referencing and 1c, so I asked for clarification. I was ready to start researching, getting books, filling in the gaps, and so on. I got no response. Then comes the delist vote from the nominator, utterly ignoring my request for information.

I understand. People implicitly mean the paragraphs that have no citations at all, inl ine with the contemporary idea that almost everything has to be sourced. People are a bit hesitant, perhaps for the fear of looking like a prick, to tag every sentence. I actually tag the odd sentence in my FA/GA more than other people's FA with only 20% referencing YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Then there is Wikipedia:Featured article review/National Anthem of Russia/archive1. Once again, I asked for details about the 1c objection. A full two weeks later, I finally get a one sentence response about chewing gum. Once again, we get the delist vote from the same person as from Beckett. In this case, I had actually emailed the main editor asking for sources and other information.

I'm sure by now you can see why I consider it a waste of time. People nominate articles with generic statements, and are not required to provide details when asked by people who are actually willing to work on the article. Then, they paste their generic delist statements and the article gets delisted. I can see your point that it's useless to provide detailed prose feedback when the referencing is bunk, but in neither of these cases was I asking for prose feedback. I was asking for details on the 1c objections because I wanted to work on the articles.

Do you still want to work on it if I talk to the nominator about your inquiry? In most cases, it is just a general desire for some generic attention to citations. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If the process is going to be like this, and nominators aren't required to provide details of their objections when queried, we might as well just semi-automate the process and make a PROD-like template. Only if an interested editor removes the template, requests details, and pledges to work with the nominator does the FAR get opened. --Laser brain (talk) 14:49, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It sort of already is sort of mechanical in 80% of the cases where the article has been abandoned for 3 years and nobody likely cares, and you should probably only bother with the cases where there is some effort by an associated editor/wikiproject like Cane toad and Lake Burley Griffin. I hope you change your mind YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think I am connecting with what you are saying. In the end, maybe it's not that big a deal if articles are delisted. It's not as if we're deleting them—we're just saying they no longer meet today's criteria. As always, feel free to ping me if editors are working on saving an article and you think the prose needs some attention. I'll be happy to help. --Laser brain (talk) 15:10, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 03:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I had the opposite experience to you. I provided very specific details of a FA's failures, which were all met with generic, "It looks all right to me". See the recent Solar System FAR HarryAlffa (talk) 18:50, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question

I wanted to know the template formula for if their is on-going vandalism on an article, how to make it that only registered users could edit. Thanx! ATC^{. Talk} 02:37, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

an admin can lock. Which page are you looking for? YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well actually The Naked Brothers Band (TV series)—you could tell by looking at the history that users ALWAYS has to revert people's edits do to vandialism, although their hasn't been a problem ever since I've started making it into a decent-looking article. Never mind about it, I'll let you know if their is a problem again. ATC^{. Talk} 10:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I just did revert someone's unnecessary edit—who was a non-registered user, it wasn't vandalism this time, but it was messy, unnecessary, and inaccurate—forget about my reply above. Could you lock the television series article. Thanx! ATC^{. Talk} 10:24, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Early life of Keith Miller

Hey there - that article was still on my watchlist from the GAN review months back, and I just wanted to say congrats on the FAC passing. :-) This might just be like "another FA" to you, but it's always awesome to see content improve to the "brilliant" stage. You're one outstanding mainspace contributor, and I hope you'll be able to keep it up for a long time. Cheers, Jamie^☆S93 02:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well done! ;) Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 02:26, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, great work again. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 08:09, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 18:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

thanks, now for Ron Hamence with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948 YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Compliment you

I compliment you on your management of FAR. Your firm hand seems to have reduced the chaoes there. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 01:24, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Are you going to resume your participation there Mattisse? YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know. What do you think I should do? Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 15:27, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with it. I operate normally towards everyone without worrying about this arbcom stuff. If people are obviously not going to agree that a certain change is needed I'll ask them to step back from further debate if it would be pointless and only used a method of victory by battery YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

IP sock?

Does 99.51.223.161 (talk · contribs) ring any quick bells wrt Khalistan related editors? Priyanath ^talk 03:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What's the geog location for this? My geolocate isnt woprking atm. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 03:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see Plano, Texas at [3]. Priyanath ^talk 03:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I blocked a bunch of accounts that fought against Vivin (talk · contribs) late last year. some of them were TX YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 03:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there is no other concrete evidence on my end, just a pattern and feeling that another editor also had-User_talk:Sinneed/Archive_2#Help. Priyanath ^talk 03:22, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Launceston, Tasmania

I'm currently cleaning up and copy editing the article. Hopefully in a couple of weeks a will be able to nominate it for a peer review then a GAN. I'm not sure how to reference books, as I've never really done so a lot in the past. Do you know of a page that gives a run down, or could you quickly tell me yourself? Thanks Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 07:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well you just copy teh format used in Bill Woodfull or anywhere other cricket FA/GA. Use a separate section with the list of books with full details with teh cite book template and the shorthand notes section put "Haigh, p. 55" in the short parts YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 07:25, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, & what do you do when there is two authors? Do you go Wooley/Tatlow? Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 07:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the notes your go "Haigh and Frith, p. 23" or "Cashman et al., p. 12." In the long form you use "coauthor=Frith, David;Roebuck, Peter; Manthorpe, Neil" etc there is an example in Woodfull of "Haigh and Frith" and "Harte and Whimpress" in the last part but as Whimpress only added about 7% in a revised addition as "Harte with B Whimpress" I didn't bother to add Whimpress in the shortform YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 07:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if the mass tagging of cn for canberra and Australia will spark a reaction? YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 07:44, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I was hoping, so things get fixed before FAR. Australia is a bit of a mess really. If nothing happens maybe we should remove info, that will spark a reaction. Although I don't have any books or know a lot about Canberra except in winter it's colder than here, which is quite something! Also can you check out ref 11 for Launceston, Tasmania to see if I've done the right thing. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 07:50, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also User:Philcha has done an incredibly good review on York Park that this editor is moving house and probably won't be able to finish the review. Have you come across User:Philcha before? Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 10:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I asked him to go to WP:FAR he said that FARs have to be at the same standard as FAC and when I told him it wasn't I asked him to go to FAR but he hasn't visited yet. His GA reviews are easily tougher than the old FAs (which is half of them) YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FARs should be nearly as good as FAC. Very good GA reviewer though, and also would be handy at FAR. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 08:16, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Else I could close FARs with only 1 opinion.... YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 03:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Advice...

Okay, looking at 1950 Maryland Terrapins football team, which I just signed up to review for GAN. I'm not seeing a coherent article here. I see some lists, and some information in the lead, but nothing that ties all the dispartite information together. I'm leaning towards a quick fail, quite honestly, but would love a second opinion (or a third or fourth if any TPS wanna weigh in). Ealdgyth - Talk 15:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A few other things that are missing: team changes, retirements and new recruits, or trades to other teams. Also missing is information on the team structure, forwards, defenders, wingers, centremen etc, strengths and weaknesses: height, speed, tackling power etc? What was team strategy? Formations like in soccer 4-4-2, 3-5-1-1 etc or whatever I don't know what the possible tactics are but I don't see any discussed. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cricket notability

I came across you on Fake IPL Player, but right now I wanted to check with you on getting a Cricket modification to WP:Athlete. We currently have a Test umpire on AfD -Cortez Jordan, it'll pass, but I don't think such things should even come up to AfD. The guy's stats from Cricinfo were up as a ref, and for most cricketers and umpires of the past, save the Hobbs or Huttons, pages wouldn't be up to date or elaborate, I guess. What say you? -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 20:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:CRIN for a basic run-down on what the cricket project feel is notable enough for inclusion. It says The major cricket qualification includes any player or umpire who has appeared in a Test match since 1877; or in a limited overs international (including Twenty20 internationals) since 1971; or in any major domestic competition. Major domestic first-class competitions include the County Championship, the Ranji Trophy, the Sheffield Shield, etc. Major domestic limited overs competitions include all ListA matches and the Twenty20 Cup, Indian Premier League, etc.. This is a project guideline only and as such not enforceable but it has the advantage of being both objective and rational. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 22:31, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I did see that, that's the reason why I brought it up as something that needs to be tagged on to WP:Athlete as there definitely is confusion and/or misunderstanding amongst non-cricket followers. Maybe it's not due yet, but there's a more selfish motive in what I was suggesting - I'm looking at writing articles for a good chunk of (primarily Indian) players who qualify WP:CRIN, but not as obvious on WP:Athlete, so it would ease the process. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 23:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ATHLETE is supposed to cover all the players anyway; all FC/List A/T20 domestics pass that Test, although I have seen some North Americans prod Test cricketers and were rolled back in 5 minutes. I don't think a formal change will make a difference; it's just the odd guy who AfDs things and gets uanaimously rebuffed by people within the wikiproject and outside; this doesn't just apply to cricket. Umpires are somehow unspokenly taken to be on the same plane as the players they adjudicate. There isn't anything to worry about. None of these AFds ever get any support YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 01:58, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, if you guys say it isn't a problem, I'm fine with it. YM, my current focus is on the women, I did find that between the World cup and World T20 teams there were at least seven Indian girls who don't have a page, so I was going to start with them, and possibly move on to the Black caps, the English and Aussie girls seem to be doing ok, the Pakistanis it's really difficult to get any info because the Dawn and Jang don't really cover them much, similar problem with the WIndies. Once I'm done with that, I was thinking of having a go at players from Associate nations, and no, Ireland's mauling of Pakistan did not influence my decision. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 02:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Created Anagha Deshpande, Reema Malhotra, Sulakshana Naik and Harmanpreet Kaur. Is there any policy on using CricketArchive vs Cricinfo? I couldn't find any. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 16:41, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They're both RS. I guess it depends on which page loads quicker, which appears to depend on the machine sometimes. CA is more convenient with the oracle as statsguru only works for internationals, but they have their strengths and weaknesses YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 03:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: AWOL

I'm currently taking the last exams. I would be back active in July if I passed all of them =). Thanks for your inquirent.--AM ^(talk) 18:05, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HarryAlffa seeks an explanation

Seeking an explanation here HarryAlffa (talk) 19:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your conduct on the RFC and the talk page, YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 03:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you for returning the protection back at the Philippines page. Unfortunately, you only placed a semi-protect and I believe a much tougher protection is necessary until maybe June 30, 2010. I have a worrying feeling that the edit wars would continue especially because I have doubts that the other editor might be using a lot of sockpuppets. Thanks anyway.--23prootie (talk) 01:45, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I have used fprot now. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 03:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

State-sponsored terrorism

Hi, you say in your recent edit that the Balochis aren't widely recognised as terrorists. The BLA has been proscibed not just by Pakistan, but aslo by the UK and US and therefore the accusation against India merits at least a brief mention.--Peter cohen (talk) 11:18, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the Balochi item should be removed. The BBC article is about rebellion in Balochistan and the accusation and denial re India is one sentence in the entire article. We should have at least one WP:RS where the accusation is central before we include unsupported claims. --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 12:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the BLA is a small insurgency and is obscure, only three listed countries including the direct opponent YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bodyline

You may have missed that references "az" "pollard" and "testlist" are broken. DrKiernan (talk) 12:03, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, will fix YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Need third party NPOV help

Hi. I saw your name on ATC's page (and your protection banner on The Naked Brothers Band page) and realized you might be able to help. This page, in my view, needs a strong NPOV third opinion. I'd suggest reading from the bottom up as the page is being used as a forum. Also, a talk page guidelines banner wouldn't hurt, either. Sorry to bother you, and thanks. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:08, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I'll look, also note, I did the IB myself YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::I don't know. What do you think I should do? Regards, &mdash;[[User:Mattisse|<font color="navy">'''Mattisse'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Mattisse|Talk]]) 15:27, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
+:::I'm fine with it. I operate normally towards everyone without worrying about this arbcom stuff. If people are obviously not going to agree that a certain change is needed I'll ask them to step back from further debate if it would be pointless and only used a method of victory by battery '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<font color="GoldenRod">YellowMonkey</font>]]'''  (''[[User_talk:YellowMonkey|<font color="#FA8605">cricket calendar poll!</font>]]'') [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Paid_editing#Statement_by_YellowMonkey|paid editing=POV]] 02:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
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 Hi, you say in your recent edit that the Balochis aren't widely recognised as terrorists. The BLA has been proscibed not just by Pakistan, but aslo by the UK and US and therefore the accusation against India merits at least a brief mention.--[[User:Peter cohen|Peter cohen]] ([[User talk:Peter cohen|talk]]) 11:18, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 :I think that the Balochi item should be removed. The BBC article is about rebellion in Balochistan and the accusation and denial re India is one sentence in the entire article. We should have at least one [[WP:RS]] where the accusation is central before we include unsupported claims. --[[User:RegentsPark|RegentsPark]] <small>([[User talk:RegentsPark|sticks and stones]])</small> 12:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
+::Also, the BLA is a small insurgency and is obscure, only three listed countries including the direct opponent '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<font color="GoldenRod">YellowMonkey</font>]]'''  (''[[User_talk:YellowMonkey|<font color="#FA8605">cricket calendar poll!</font>]]'') [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Paid_editing#Statement_by_YellowMonkey|paid editing=POV]] 02:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 == [[Bodyline]] ==
 You may have missed that references "az" "pollard" and "testlist" are broken. [[User:DrKiernan|DrKiernan]] ([[User talk:DrKiernan|talk]]) 12:03, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
+:Yes, will fix '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<font color="GoldenRod">YellowMonkey</font>]]'''  (''[[User_talk:YellowMonkey|<font color="#FA8605">cricket calendar poll!</font>]]'') [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Paid_editing#Statement_by_YellowMonkey|paid editing=POV]] 02:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 == Need third party NPOV help ==
 Hi. I saw your name on ATC's page (and your protection banner on The Naked Brothers Band page)  and realized you might be able to help. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:IB_Diploma_Programme This] page, in my view, needs a strong NPOV third opinion. I'd suggest reading from the bottom up as the page is being used as a forum. Also, a talk page guidelines banner wouldn't hurt, either. Sorry to bother you, and thanks. [[User:Truthkeeper88|Truthkeeper88]] ([[User talk:Truthkeeper88|talk]]) 00:08, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
+:Yes I'll look, also note, I did the IB myself '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<font color="GoldenRod">YellowMonkey</font>]]'''  (''[[User_talk:YellowMonkey|<font color="#FA8605">cricket calendar poll!</font>]]'') [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Paid_editing#Statement_by_YellowMonkey|paid editing=POV]] 02:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)