User talk:Magog the Ogre

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Deletion

• File:Webreep-Model.png (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello. Can you please not delete the Webreep-Model Image? I have permission to use it. Can you please put it back? Thanks ! -Trisony. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trisony (talk • contribs) 01:42, 16 February 2012‎ (UTC)

RFC/U

I looked in on TG's page to see it he had been unblocked yet and saw your comment on an RFC/U. See [1] here please. Darkness Shines (talk) 14:55, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I assume you will get JCAla or another user to sign it, so it shouldn't be necessary for me to do so. Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:58, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

I had posted on their talk pages a while ago, they do not seem interested. Can you let me know if it is filled in correctly? Perhaps given your statement on TG's talk someone will take interest. Darkness Shines (talk) 11:03, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

I will take a look at it; it will take me quite a bit of time to sift through the diffs and try to figure things out on my own though. Magog the Ogre (talk) 16:42, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

As the interaction ban is going ahead can you please delete the RFC/U page as it would be a breach of the IBAN policy if I retain it. 10:20, 24 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkness Shines (talk • contribs)

Y Done Magog the Ogre (talk) 17:09, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Is it blocked?

Hi, Magog. About this, I'm agreed with your closure reasons. I just think you might want to check if this IP is really blocked. I couldn't find a current block on block log. Regards.” T_eLeS (T _{@ L C S}) 04:53, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

My fault that the block was already expired: I've extended it by 6 months. Magog the Ogre (talk) 16:41, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Great. Thank you.” T_eLeS (T _{@ L C S}) 10:57, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Source

Hi! Perhaps we could use this as a source? Do not know why it was removed. --MGA73 (talk) 16:42, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Y Deleted and description updated on Commons Magog the Ogre (talk) 19:18, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Bot cleanup on Commons

Hi! I have cleaned up a lot of junk on en-wiki. So I suggest you update your script/tool/data before you work on the NowCommons files. Hope you find it much easier to check files now :-) --MGA73 (talk) 16:34, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Y Done. If nightshade ever goes back up, then it should be updated daily at 00:30 UTC. Magog the Ogre (talk) 18:44, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Cool. I found some more junk to remove. My bot is working on it at the moment. What about codes like:

<!-- Templates "Template:Copy to Wikimedia Commons", "Template:File other", "Template:Main other", "Template:Orphan image" were used in the original description page as well , but do not appear to exist on commons. -->

Do you find that usefull? I can remove that also. What do you think? --MGA73 (talk) 21:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

It can be useful for informing the uploader if there were templates on en.wp that might have had important content in them, and the bot didn't transfer it. This used to happen more often; now, it only seems to happen in the following scenarios:

• A logo used to be marked fair use, and it is converted into PD-textlogo, but the description remains as fair use. When the bot transfers the image over, it does not pick up the summary or sourcing information from the fair use rationale templates; it must be transferred by hand (there might be a fix at m:CommonsHelper2/Data en.wikipedia, but I haven't figured it out yet).
• The uploader marks the description with the {{en}} template, mimicking the same language template at Commons. CommonsHelper ignores all the text within.

Personally, I set my widely-used cleanup script (commons:User:Magog the Ogre/cleanup.js) to remove that comment, as I think anyone reviewing the page will be looking closely enough to pick up that problem, or any others. So maybe you could remove the text when inside, the templates contain a set of templates we know are otherwise useless (the ones you listed above are good examples). Magog the Ogre (talk) 21:53, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah... That is however the problem. It is easy to remove always but harder to remove when it "only contain" :-) --MGA73 (talk) 22:00, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Not at all! Here is some pseudocode:

@dumb_templates = array{"Copy to Wikimedia Commons", "File Other", "Main other", "Orphan image"};

foreach (@dumb_templates as $dumb_template)

{text = text.replace("/(<\!\-\- Templates.+?)\"Template".$dumb_template."\"(.+?were used in the original description page as well\s*\, but do not appear to exist on commons. \-\-\>)/", "$1$2");}

text = text.replace("/<\!\-\- Templates\s+were used in the original description page as well\s*\, but do not appear to exist on commons. \-\-\>/", "");

Voila - it removes the dumb templates if it lists multiple (so it's not plugging up the history), and if it ends up removing all the templates, then no more comment! Magog the Ogre (talk) 22:09, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you... I removed a lot of code now. Did it semi manuel and there was about 10 that did not look 100 % junk. It should look much nicer when you update. :-) Hope it makes it easier. --MGA73 (talk) 22:58, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
I think it looks much nicer now after the update. If you find other things that could be fixed with a bot just let me know and I'll see if can do something about it. --MGA73 (talk) 11:51, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Special request

File:Bardor Tulku Wiki.jpg - the uploader granted OTRS permission for the current version, which I copied to Commons. We don't have permission for the previous versions of the file. Kelly ^hi! 00:54, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Y Done - I'm not going to bother restoring the old versions because they already had no permission tags on them, so I figure it's time for them to be deleted anyway. Magog the Ogre (talk) 00:58, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks, as always. Kelly ^hi! 01:10, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Reply

Just wanted to point you to my reply here in case you missed it: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Fama_Clamosa_reported_by_User:Taylornate_.28Result:_declined.29--Taylornate (talk) 01:27, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

More new replies: [2]--Taylornate (talk) 21:28, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

More: [3]--Taylornate (talk) 08:40, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

File:Four Tracks Paired by Direction - Platforms in Centre.jpg

There are several "File'Four Tracks Paired..." pics, created by myself. You might help cross reference them and indicate authorship.

• File:Four Tracks Paired by Direction - Platforms in Centre.jpg

Tabletop (talk) 04:33, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

OK; yes, I will mark them. Magog the Ogre (talk) 04:36, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

See Quadruple track#Gallery.

Tabletop (talk) 04:53, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Y Done Magog the Ogre (talk) 05:16, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

BTW, you might want to take a look at {{ShouldBePNG}}. Magog the Ogre (talk) 05:17, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

File:Gregory Herd Shadrac.JPG

Can you help me with why this file doesn't actually show up on the Gregory Herd article? Please make the edit to that article if I made a small mistake or let me know what I need to do to fix the file so it will display properly. Thank you. Spidey104 21:54, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Y Done [4] Magog the Ogre (talk) 23:20, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Can you please give a statement

Hello and I wish you a good day, there is an argumentation right now on the topic Arabs in Turkey. There is an user who claims the figure of Arabic people in Turkey as 8 million with a non reliable and official source. Some users and me put him sources from the United States and Europe, but he everytime rejects these sources. What can we do now to slove this problem, because this user was warned many times before because of vandalizm? I hope you can help us. Sero1988 16:47, 2 March 2012

Done

re [5]The Artist AKA Mr Anonymous (talk) 20:09, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Re: Signature

If you had taken the trouble to read my user page, you'd know that "Quicksilver" = "Hydrargyrum" = "Mercury" = "Quecksilber" = "Dzīvsudrabs" = "Ερμής", etc., etc. No, I would not consider amending my signature for you. It has worked satisfactorily for nearly eight years and the hyperlinks in my signature are unambiguous. — Quicksilver^{T @} 00:27, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry to see that my polite request, which wasn't on my own behalf, but on the community's, has turned you into a raging asshole. I wonder how you'd have responded if I'd been rude about it; probably about the same, seeing as you're apparently tone deaf. Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:50, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Note that I didn't resort to calling you names. If the shoe fits, wear it. — Quicksilver^{T @} 13:48, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

The only thing I note that I asked you a polite question, and you responded like a unnecessarily confrontational and rude fashion. I don't respond to polite requests by being an asshole - ever. It's not a matter of me calling anyone a name; it's a matter of me calling a spade a spade. If you were wise about things, you'd ask yourself how to avoid such behavior in the future - instead of blaming the person who pointed it out for you. Magog the Ogre (talk) 19:52, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Patrick Stewart and Star Wars

While your meaning is clear in "Cherry picking of facts to make a subject look bad" at WP:AN, I was slightly confused by your example — Patrick Stewart says nothing about Star Wars, and I don't remember seeing the guy in any of the movies. What part(s) did he play? Talkback, please. Nyttend backup (talk) 13:30, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

You're kidding me? ST TNG. Star Wars fans and Star Trek fans usually don't intersect, so there can be a minor rivalry between them. Magog the Ogre (talk) 19:48, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh, okay. I know nothing of Star Trek, so I didn't understand that his Star Trek connexion was relevant. Thanks! Nyttend backup (talk) 20:27, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Think a hand is needed

As an uninvolved admin, would you mind having a look at Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2012_February_25#File:Mouli_Cohen.jpg. There's a very "itchy" uploader. ;-) We hope (talk) 20:25, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

OK, but you might not like my close though. Magog the Ogre (talk) 20:29, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Let's just get it done either way it goes. :-) We hope (talk) 20:33, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Was getting tired of tagging and retagging this one. ;-) We hope (talk) 20:52, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Blocking me

What I reverted here was vandalism, not a contribution. The two other reverts I had in the past 2 days were reverting vandalism by an IP user, who was changing numbers taken from a reference, without adding another source to their numbers. PLEASE check the history of the article. عمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 21:59, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

While you're correct that the user was changing the figures, this seems like an extension of your conflict with User:Sero1988. You're correct, the user did not give a new source for the numbers, but your source, from what I can see, doesn't even exist. Thus, this strikes me more as a content dispute than reversion of vandalism. This factored into my reasoning for the block. Magog the Ogre (talk) 22:06, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

This is the user who added the source the first time, so it's not my source. I just checked it again, and it seems the webpage expired or something (I have no explanation, but it was there and I had checked it a few times before). Still, the issue here is that we are a couple of users, including user:Jim1138 and myself, trying to protect the page against unknown IP edits and users like this one who kept sabotaging the article, and when you intervened you punished the wrong person. عمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 23:49, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
BTW, user Serro is new to the article, and s/he has been reverting edits without reading or referring to the talk page (until a week ago), despite inviting him to do that. عمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 23:53, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Alright; if you'd like, I'll notate your block log to make a notice that you were reverting possible vandalism and that the block was in error (just as I did with Jim1138). Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:59, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

It sounds good. Thanks for your understanding. عمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 04:25, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

File:First Avenue-7th St Entry.jpg

Hello, Magog the Ogre. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2012 March 4.
You can remove this notice at any time.

-SusanLesch (talk) 05:06, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

PNC footprint

Hey as of today, the RBC Bank branches are now with PNC. The Flagstar Bank branches in Atlanta became PNC in December. Do you want to update the map? Jgera5 (talk) 21:10, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

I have it on my to-do list. However, I'm on wikibreak, and there is a 95% chance I'll have a new position in a few weeks, a position that requires like 60 hours a week (so I won't have much time to edit). However I'll make it a priority. A question first: were all of the branches taken by PNC, or were some divested to another bank, or were any branches closed as redundant (e.g., in the DC/Florida markets)? Magog the Ogre (talk) 21:58, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

I think they are closing a couple in Florida, but none are being divested, like when they divested some National City branches in Pittsburgh to First Niagara. I'm in PNC's home base of Pittsburgh, so unlike, say, the NatCity merger, the RBC deal didn't really affect us up here. And hey, it's understandable. I took a wikibreak last summer due to real-world commitments as well. Jgera5 (talk) 23:34, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

I really do plan on getting to this. It's complicated why I haven't. Magog the Ogre (talk) 23:58, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Your Blocking of editor Kevorkmail

I noticed this person's name as an uploader of an image that was proposed to be deleted so I went to his user page. I noticed what seemed on the surface to be an inexplicable note stating that this uses was blocked by you on 22 october because of "Disruptive editing: constant edit warring, battleground mentality, and refusal to discuss issues. showing no desire to shape up". But there is no indiction of any of those things happening on that user's recent edit history. Can you cite some examples to back up your blocking explanation? You say something about Syria, but just link to Kevorkmail's talk page, to a post not made by him! And Kevorkmail's edits on 2010 Sytian uprising were all made the previous month. Meowy 18:13, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

The user was on probation according to Template:Armenia-Azerbaijan enforcement, and yet consistently was breaking his 1RR/week enforcement. As soon as his previous block expired (and after which he had received a last warning), he returned to edit warring at the same article over numbers and figures at Yerevan in a way that fit his pro-Armenia or pro-Azerbaijan agenda (I don't even know which, nor do I care). He also exhibited a battleground mentality in everything he did, and socked to get around the block, which was part of the reason his unblock was declined.[6] The quotation I gave about Syria was that the user so wore his heart on his sleeve in his namespace edits that other users were able to pick it up ("I noticed you have been really pro-bashar [sic].") - and that was about a national dispute that isn't even in his country. Worse, his response to "please try not to be biased in your edits" was not "this is why the edits were OK" or "I'll try to fix this up"- rather it was "Bashar Al-Assad and Muamar Gaddhafi are great and enjoy their people's support" - as if that had anything to do with neutrality (and a completely untrue statement, BTW, which exhibits the wishful us-vs.-them thinking common in edit warriors). It was abundantly clear to me that this user was here to push an agenda (or, I should say, a few agendas) and lacked WP:COMPETENCE either by shortness of intellect or by choice. Magog the Ogre (talk) 21:24, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

The guy was given a warning on 13 october, and a 7-day block. Then, just over a week later, he was given a lifetime block. I see nothing that merited that. He gets that sanction for making two absolutely trivial edits to the Yerevan article. Is reducing the population of Yerevan by 10,000 and its area by 32km really disruptive enough for such an extreme sanction? How can you really call such a trivial edit aim an agenda at all (I'm not surprised you can't say if it is a pro-Armenia or pro-Azerbaijan agenda)? Meowy 23:57, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Well take it to WP:ANI then. See how many people there think he should be unblocked. Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:30, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

That is not an answer. Sanctions are imposed on editors to prevent disruption to Wikipedia. Do you agree? Please explain why you think those two trivial edits were disruptive enough to ban an editor for life? Meowy 00:15, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

I already did, immediately above. Magog the Ogre (talk) 05:02, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Editing War

Hi Magog, could you please look into the contributions of this user here and in many earlier instances. S/he has been repeatedly reverting well-referenced edits by other users and myself with no intention to reach any compromise. Thanks. عمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 15:25, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Warned - user had not been warned previously about edit warring. If the disruptive behavior persists (i.e., removing information with no relevant discussion), by all means report it again here or at WP:AN3. Magog the Ogre (talk) 02:12, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the action. عمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 05:13, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Magog, the user reported here is back to the same actions. عمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 17:59, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Blocked for a period of 31 hours. Magog the Ogre (talk) 23:57, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Magog for the action, but the same user is using two IP's from Kermanshah (same city where they live) to revert edits on the same article. Could you please look into that? Thanks again and sorry for keeping you busy with this.عمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 14:10, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

File:Revs_Sculpture_In_Brooklyn.jpg undel

Hi Magog, please undel File:Revs_Sculpture_In_Brooklyn.jpg - Isarra asked me to del the image at COM (accidental transfer). Please tag the image no source (for the photo) + derivative work (work shown) after restoring. Thanks. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 01:14, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Y Done - I tagged it with {{subst:dw-nsd}} (derivative work) and {{subst:npd}} (photo). Magog the Ogre (talk) 02:16, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, mon. — Isarra (talk) 02:26, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Magog, photo source has been found out: [7]. Derivative work is still a problem. --Saibo (Δ) 02:53, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Are you sure that sculpture is copyrightable in the US anyway? {{PD-text}} and all. Magog the Ogre (talk) 03:56, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Being a 3D object, that one is apparently less applicable, but something else might apply to the thing allowing for free use. I really have no idea what, though. On the other hand, should that not be the case, would we even still need permission to use the thing, anyway, or might fair use apply in that case, as it does illustrate something the article specifically talks about? Have to put it back on the article first, but that's what the efficiency of bots gets one. — Isarra (talk) 04:39, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Correct; fair use would apply (IMO). However, Commons specifically has a page dedicated to the fact that we don't care very much about infringing on the copyright of an anonymous graffiti artist: commons:Commons:CB#Graffiti. Given that the author is unknown and may never be known, this seems reasonable to me. Magog the Ogre (talk) 04:45, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

For your information, there was a recent discussion on graffiti where it was mentioned that a graffiti artist had sent a cease and desist letter to a Commons photographer, so it might be necessary to reconsider the policy. --Stefan2 (talk) 11:51, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Err ("Given that the author is unknown and may never be known") - the author is known and mentioned on the file page, isn't he/she?! ;-) --Saibo (Δ) 20:45, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Insofar as an anonymous author can be known. Magog the Ogre (talk) 20:47, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Mmm, and from the interviews it seems he rather valued that anonymity (and probably still does), although for those interviews to have happened at all it's not like folks haven't been able to track him down... eh. — Isarra (talk) 21:06, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Topic ban proposal at ANI

Hi Magog! There is currently a proposal at ANI about topic ban on TopGun and Darkness Shines. I see many editors (including some admins, it's a pity!) responding without analyzing the complete history of the issue. I see you as one of the admins who is fully aware of the issue probably from day one and it was regretful that you left this (though I understand it). I would like you to share your views at this discussion. Thanks! --SMS ^Talk 12:49, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm pretty busy at the moment; not sure I'm going to make it. Magog the Ogre (talk) 19:43, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Messed up

Hi Magog sorry to be harbinger of more vandalism and socking but I let Darkness Shine get the better of me (with his abusive comments on other talk pages and his blatant battleground mentality) and I started removing his POV by creating accounts :/ and thus broke that 6 month thingy of second chance so basically I majorly f+ked up and I'm not sure what's going to happen now I hope you provide some advice but I understand if you have had enough of me 86.171.110.2 (talk) 19:12, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Are you only admitting this because you got caught? What will happen is your 6 month timer will now be reset. Magog the Ogre (talk) 19:38, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Well I actually admitted it was me as some legitimate users were being blamed for being my sock so I thought I might as well own up and prevent them taking the shit for my socking if it is reset I would be happy and even though you probably cannot totally believe me on it I agree if I sock again I should permanently be blocked of Wikipedia my first step from now on will be to stop monitoring articles relating to Kashmir and DS I guess I will give it another go 86.171.110.2 (talk) 19:44, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

That's probably a good idea. It seems like you have trouble stopping yourself from posting (no offense; it's something we all struggle with sometimes), so maybe not looking at all is a good idea. I realize Darkness shines has issues (I've told him that, and he's been sanctioned), but sometimes, it isn't worth jeopardizing your chance to respond. If you feel the need to sock again, just email me and I'll help talk you out of it. Magog the Ogre (talk) 19:51, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the second chance I agree I got some obsessive issues with certain articles which I have either created or edited and I monitor them every other day or so which needs to stop I think my energy will be better spent editing as a registered user rather then putting all that effort into socking and eventually getting my edits removed again your advice is very much appreciated I will message you on septemberish time wish me luck! 86.171.110.2 (talk) 19:56, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Update of tool

It seems that it is some days ago that http://toolserver.org/~magog/commons_images.htm was updated. Have you been away from F8 since then?

Anyway I have been away from en-wiki a few days but I have been cleaning up on the Commons side of the mtc for some days (you know the bot cleanup discussion above). I just wanted to hear if you came up with any new ideas.

I deleted about 200 files today just to see if I could still find the button :-D --MGA73 (talk) 21:05, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes; see the note at the top of my talk page. Anyway; I'm running the tool right now, and it will be updated within ~2-3 minutes. Magog the Ogre (talk) 21:21, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the update. That made me realise that there was a few hundred files I had not cleaned yet :-) But not it is time for me to zzzZZzz --MGA73 (talk) 22:04, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

I updated a lot of images and I tried your tool. It looks handy once you get to know it :-) Sadly many files need to be edited before they can be deleted but I hope that all my cleanup is starting to pay off :-) --MGA73 (talk) 17:40, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

If you can help me figure out how to run SSH off of my Windows client, then I will update the tool. Magog the Ogre (talk) 17:55, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

(and do it with no input from me, as I probably won't respond to you much here for lack of time). Magog the Ogre (talk) 17:56, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Last thing/question

I created this article as a sock [8] and DS wants its deleted I have shown it is a very notable issue its not one rape but in the thousands compared to his article [Human rights abuses in Azad Kashmir][9] which has serious notability and reliability problems and was tagged before hand by another user I provided many reliable sources for it does the fact that it was made by a sock mean it will be removed without discussion or vote? as DS seems hell bent on deleting it 86.171.110.2 (talk) 22:37, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

He clearly made that article in retaliation of jammu and kashmir rights abuse page he is struggling to find sources as you can see due to non notability of the subject 86.171.110.2 (talk) 22:40, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

And that article was the reason I broke my ban on editing (I know crap excuse but what the hey) 86.171.110.2 (talk) 22:42, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

The very fact that you're continuing to post to my talk page about the issue is a violation of your ban. Please just let it go. Magog the Ogre (talk) 23:49, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

I am willing to recreate the article, is that OK? But I want to do it from scratch, not have it associated with the sock. Darkness Shines (talk) 23:59, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, you can do it however you'd like; I deleted it because it was created by a banned user in violation of said ban, and was causing all of the drama that the ban was trying to alleviate. If someone asks me, I will userfy the older versions for them though. Magog the Ogre (talk) 00:01, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, no need to userfy, he had a sandbox[10] Darkness Shines (talk) 00:02, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I remember making constructive edits to it (after he backed it up in his own userspace). Please do it to my userspace. Thanks. --lTopGunl (talk) 00:25, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Y Done (User:TopGun/Rape in Indian-administered Kashmir). Please make sure that if you rely upon any content originally written by another user, you give proper attribution in your edit summary in order to comply with GFDL/CC-BY-SA. If absolutely necessary (shouldn't be though), we can do a history merge. Magog the Ogre (talk) 01:55, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Magog, why have you restored the sock version and deleted the one I was working on? Darkness Shines (talk) 01:51, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I see you were moving it to user space. Please ensure there is not another merger from user space to article space as what happened previously leaving me unable to edit an article I had created. Darkness Shines (talk) 01:54, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

There may be another merge, but unless the administrator makes a mistake, you will be able to edit it. Magog the Ogre (talk) 01:55, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the restore. There was no mistake last time btw, just that the original article was a single section while mine was all the rest. --lTopGunl (talk) 01:59, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

• So this was not going to happen then?[11] It even doubles up on content I had written. Darkness Shines (talk) 19:06, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

If I am blocked for asking you about this you can drop the topic ban thread as I will be done here. I am surly allowed to ask about it given you said this would never be an issue? Darkness Shines (talk) 19:19, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

• I am going to ask you for a favor here Magog, please look at the article as it is now, as opposed to the content I had written[12] Just tell me honestly which is neutral, which is using academic sources, which version at least has a semblance of being an encyclopedic article. I hope you will do this and revert back to were the article should be. Darkness Shines (talk) 01:31, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Magog, the above comment is an IBAN violation which I've reported (not violating here myself since I'm referring to a violation). From this thread I see that you would revert banned users outright. --lTopGunl (talk) 19:16, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

• I must say I am bitterly disappointed in you. You said there would not be an issue, it of course happened and you have allowed it to happen. I also ran a little experiment today [13] Created an article at 17:46, it is AFD'd at 18:00 (figure my edits are being watched ) Look at the time stamps at the AFD[14] A suspicious man might think, off wiki communication? Darkness Shines (talk) 18:13, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

TopGun once again

I have reported User:TopGun for edit-warring over Folland Gnat. FYI he also faces a topic ban. It is hard for me to correct his defective edits (imho) without falling into his edit-warring trap. AshLin (talk) 10:02, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Please stop admin shopping, I think Magog recused him self from this drama... and two reverts second being well in the mid of next aren't 1RR vio or even gaming. And stop trying to bait me into violating too. --lTopGunl (talk) 16:29, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

TopGun, please assume good faith. AshLin, though it may not be your intention, to TopGun and other editors it may seem look like you're canvassing. By the way, Magog, I've left a message on Salvio's talk page that reads as follows:

I've been keeping an eye on this dispute as I've been the main "mediator", for a lack of better words, with this dispute. To get the load off of you a little bit, I'll continue to keep an eye on the ANI thread and the ongoing RfC on the content. Should anything go awry, I'll bring it to the proper forum and bring it to your attention.

—Regards, Whenaxis talk · contribs | DR goes to Wikimania! 00:37, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Template:PUFresolved

related to Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2012_February_28#Template:PUFresolved; I was thinking to do this, but I recognized that there are many problems. Old deletion discussions/PUFs were added to the talkpage (example: File talk:Les Demoiselles d'Avignon.jpg; and the corresponding pages seem to be gone) and many underlying/former pages were moved and/or deleted. Should the {{Oldffdfull}} get a new parameter for the correct link? (if it can be found? e.g. File:WhiteSwirl.jpg is after my change also incorrectly linked)

Until now I found following structures:

• Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/
• Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images/ (redlinks, moved to ^ without redirect)
• Wikipedia:Files for deletion/
• Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/ (bluelinks, moved to ^ with redirects)

and the section linking using Image/File prefixes mixed. I would go through "by hand" and trying to fix the linking, if you help me to modify the Oldffdfull template with the parameter/naming. mabdul 23:49, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry; I don't even understand the question. I thought that PUFresolved should just get fixed with AWB to point to {{Oldpuffull}}; in fact, your edit to WhiteSwirl.jpg was wrong for exactly that reason. Magog the Ogre (talk) 15:46, 13 March 2012 (UTC)